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Diane_Keaton 10-19-2004 06:52 PM

Obscene
 
Quote:

Originally posted by baltassoc
Perhaps I should post it over on the adult board due to its obscene nature, but I just want to say:

It's a good thing to want to Protect Our Civil Liberties.*


*I'd post the original story, but it requires registration. You'll just have to take the word of a radical left wing website.
Clever. It certainly says something about how the Repubs view themselves if they presume the slogan is anti-Republican. I think those gals made their point quite well.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-19-2004 06:59 PM

caption, please
 
http://www.wonkette.com/images/almos...e%20enough.jpg

Hank Chinaski 10-19-2004 07:01 PM

Caption Contest
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Bush et al. had a chance to bag Osama bin Laden with U.S. troops, and they didn't go in strong.
Based on....? I remember there was a fight in the mountains, and that someone saw a tall guy. i remember some US troops were there but that one of the fights was mostly Afghans. Since he was able to run into Paki in your version, away from the Afghans, why couldn't he run from Americans into Paki (ps i think he is dead)?

Shape Shifter 10-19-2004 07:01 PM

caption, please
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
http://www.wonkette.com/images/almos...e%20enough.jpg
"Ty invented this!"

Hank Chinaski 10-19-2004 07:03 PM

caption, please
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
http://www.wonkette.com/images/almos...e%20enough.jpg
Back in '96. the chubby girl in the green dress would have been center stage.

SlaveNoMore 10-19-2004 07:05 PM

Obscene
 
Quote:

baltassoc
*I'd post the original story, but it requires registration. You'll just have to take the word of a radical left wing website.
www.DNC.org?

Say_hello_for_me 10-19-2004 07:05 PM

What I Forgot To Post For Ty Earlier . . .
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
No thanks. It's an enduring theme here that your consumption of the screamers on the left leads you to believe that it's representative of the Democratic Party.

Perhaps it's more revealing to see more and more mainstream conservative media* throwing up their hands in exasperation at Bush, proclaiming that he's taken the principles of conservatism, pushed them into a nice little pile, and pissed on them the last 4 years.
Just observations:
1.) I'm glad to see the Right disclaiming Bush for many of his policies. I'll still say that the Right can only disclaim his economic policies.
2.) People are very sensitive about that Perle/Wolfy Israel thing (don't want to be called anti-semitic). The author certainly could have handled that aspect of his article better. Anyhoo, the link led me to a different article.

eta: Oh, and in the small print, who do you not shows up as involved in that message? Well, behind door number 1, its Pat fucking Buchanan, asshole at large. No wonder the Jewish conspiracy implication is transparent. Gatti, not mainstream conservative at all, some of it is on the verge of hate-speech.

Hello

Replaced_Texan 10-19-2004 07:07 PM

Regardless of party affiliation, I think this is pretty damned funny:

Quote:

A Lakewood Republican stealing campaign signs late one night got nabbed when he ran across a low-hanging driveway chain, fell face first onto a pilfered sign and the concrete and knocked himself unconscious.

Randal Wagner, 50, was loaded into an ambulance, treated at Lutheran Medical Center for abrasions and facial cuts and issued a summons.
Rocky Mountain News via The Burnt Orange Report

ltl/fb 10-19-2004 07:12 PM

Team America
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I was a little upset until I learned that Sinclair owned WB and UPN affiliates. Hell, I don't even know what channels those are on my local cable. I doubt too many people expecting to see America's Next Top Model will stay tuned to watch a bunch of boring ugly old white guys.
No Gilmore Girls? No One Tree Hill? No Everwood? What the hell do you watch????

Shape Shifter 10-19-2004 07:13 PM

Team America
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
No Gilmore Girls? No One Tree Hill? No Everwood? What the hell do you watch????
I'm usually too busy reading my Bible to have time for tv.

SlaveNoMore 10-19-2004 07:18 PM

caption, please
 
John Kerry (seen here right before hurling a child into the crowd) is angered by questions from crowd about his wife's tax return

taxwonk 10-19-2004 07:33 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
There was no question -- none -- that the troops would get funded. The only question was how. Taxwonk now has my proxy on this.
I decline the proxy. I left this fight a couple weeks ago. If Club really doesn't understand that sometimes senators vote against a bill, not because they're opposed to the primary subject of the legislation, but because some other senator has attached an unpalatable amendment, then he's not knowledgeable enough to debate with. If Club is merely being disingenous, he's not worth wasting my time on. If he's merely being obtuse and intellectually dishonest, then let him just play with himself and we can move on to other things.

Not Bob 10-19-2004 07:36 PM

What I Forgot To Post For Ty Earlier . . .
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Yeah, they're solidly behind Not B . . . I mean, Kerry.
How dare you out me!!!!!

ltl/fb 10-19-2004 07:38 PM

caption, please
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
John Kerry (seen here right before hurling a child into the crowd) is angered by questions from crowd about his wife's tax return
Attention to detail, slavey. It's more plausible that he's going to beat the child senseless with the microphone. That kid is too big for a wuss like Kerry to hurl one-handed.

SlaveNoMore 10-19-2004 07:46 PM

caption, please
 
Quote:

ltl/fb
Attention to detail, slavey. It's more plausible that he's going to beat the child senseless with the microphone. That kid is too big for a wuss like Kerry to hurl one-handed.
Wuss?

John "Slayer of Vietcong" Kerry?

Nonsense.

sgtclub 10-19-2004 08:40 PM

caption, please
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
http://www.wonkette.com/images/almos...e%20enough.jpg
Here's my Howard Dean impression . . .

sgtclub 10-19-2004 08:43 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
I decline the proxy. I left this fight a couple weeks ago. If Club really doesn't understand that sometimes senators vote against a bill, not because they're opposed to the primary subject of the legislation, but because some other senator has attached an unpalatable amendment, then he's not knowledgeable enough to debate with. If Club is merely being disingenous, he's not worth wasting my time on. If he's merely being obtuse and intellectually dishonest, then let him just play with himself and we can move on to other things.
Apparently I am not knowledgable enought to debate with, wasting your time, obtuse and intellectually dishonest, and playing with myself, all at the same time.

ltl/fb 10-19-2004 08:44 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
Apparently I am not knowledgable enought to debate with, wasting your time, obtuse and intellectually dishonest, and playing with myself, all at the same time.
I think he secretly likes to watch, so as long as you continue playing with yourself his time isn't really wasted.

SlaveNoMore 10-19-2004 08:45 PM

Final Jeopardy
 
Quote:

sgtclub
I am not knowledgable enought to debate with, wasting your time, obtuse and intellectually dishonest, and playing with myself, all at the same time.

"What do you get when you cross a libertarian, Bill O'Reilly, and an octopus"

Not Me 10-19-2004 08:48 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
Apparently I am not knowledgable enought to debate with, wasting your time, obtuse and intellectually dishonest, and playing with myself, all at the same time.
Just be sure and wash your hands when you are done.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-19-2004 08:50 PM

Final Jeopardy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
"What do you get when you cross a libertarian, Bill O'Reilly, and an octopus"
http://www.vegetarismus.ch/heft/f200...es/falafel.jpg

Not Me 10-19-2004 08:51 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
I decline the proxy. I left this fight a couple weeks ago. If Club really doesn't understand that sometimes senators vote against a bill, not because they're opposed to the primary subject of the legislation, but because some other senator has attached an unpalatable amendment, then he's not knowledgeable enough to debate with. If Club is merely being disingenous, he's not worth wasting my time on. If he's merely being obtuse and intellectually dishonest, then let him just play with himself and we can move on to other things.
Translation: Club got the better of Wonk in the debate and now Wonk has resorted to ad hominem attacks.*

*Ty invented that.

ltl/fb 10-19-2004 09:08 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Me
Translation: Club got the better of Wonk in the debate and now Wonk has resorted to ad hominem attacks.*

*Ty invented that.
Dissent. I loathe and detest Wanker with every fiber of my being, but I don't think club got the better of him in the debate in question. club is being disingenuous, or parroting the party line without thinking about it.

Hank Chinaski 10-19-2004 09:09 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Dissent. I loathe and detest Wanker with every fiber of my being, but I don't think club got the better of him in the debate in question. club is being disingenuous, or parroting the party line without thinking about it.
so you think they tied?

Diane_Keaton 10-19-2004 10:18 PM

Rotten Filet Mignon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
http://www.kctu.org/graphics/alert-flashing.gif http://www.kctu.org/graphics/alert-flashing.gif http://www.kctu.org/graphics/alert-flashing.gif http://www.peterthottam.com/thottam_22.gif Thottam Strikes Again

taxwonk 10-19-2004 10:28 PM

Caption Contest
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
What you might want to consider, instead of spewing this blather, is why your sort insisted we give rights to the killers at Gitmo, and let them go back. Do you know we have had to recapture or kill several of these guys? do you feel better about the bill of rights, or worse about your inability to understand what this war means?
Because people who truly believe what you have written above are the real enemy,, and a far greater threat to our democracy. As it so happens, Hank, I don't think you really believe this. I think you're just trolling, which makes you more pathetic than dangerous.

ltl/fb 10-19-2004 10:34 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
so you think they tied?
It wasn't really a debate. It was club mouthing sound bites and wanker sort of trying to tell him that he while what he said was factually true, it was not the whole story and therefore was a misrepresentation.

Kind of like when if I said, "Hank once whacked his wife in the head with his elbow, and has thrown her on the ground a bunch of times!" See, that makes you seem like a wifebeater. Now, if I also said "In the course of disarming a mugger attacking his wife, Hank's elbow hit her in the head, and did you know, isn't it eccentric, at holidays their families play tackle football" then it shows that while you have injured your wife a lot, it wasn't in the wifebeating way.

God. Now I'm sucked into this morass of crap.

I'm out.

Say_hello_for_me 10-19-2004 10:34 PM

mmmm, (rotten) filet mignon
 
1.) is this, like, stalking?
2.) A Don Martens in that same transcript? That's weird.

Hello

For those who wouldn't know this, the second or third largest IP firm in California is Knobbe Martens sumthin sumthin, and the Martens is a very well known guy named Don Martens. They are OC based.

He(if I had to do it all over again, I'd have gone to UCI)llo

Hank Chinaski 10-19-2004 10:34 PM

Caption Contest
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
Because people who truly believe what you have written above are the real enemy,, and a far greater threat to our democracy. As it so happens, Hank, I don't think you really believe this. I think you're just trolling, which makes you more pathetic than dangerous.
would you quote the parts that make me dangerous. some of it was simply factual, so I need some focus before I can reply.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-19-2004 10:50 PM

For Hank:

Andrew Sullivan asks, "Mr. Safire, have you no sense of decency, sir?"

bilmore 10-19-2004 10:59 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
Apparently I am not knowledgable enought to debate with, wasting your time, obtuse and intellectually dishonest, and playing with myself, all at the same time.
So many of the Dem's responses circle around this "you're below contempt, and I won't respond" model, because their answers are lacking. Take it as a compliment.

bilmore 10-19-2004 11:00 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Dissent. I loathe and detest Wanker with every fiber of my being . . .
That's stupid. The two of you are so much alike, it's not funny.

bilmore 10-19-2004 11:03 PM

Caption Contest
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
Because people who truly believe what you have written above are the real enemy . . . .
Wonk, I truly believe you would have been sitting in the south of france, insisting that the allied forces question each kraut, and, if they gave the right answers, release them back over the lines.

At some point, nuance is just fucking stoopid. (Look, I used the special FB spelling!)

Hank Chinaski 10-19-2004 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
For Hank:

Andrew Sullivan asks, "Mr. Safire, have you no sense of decency, sir?"
I invented bringing this into this election.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-19-2004 11:07 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
So many of the Dem's responses circle around this "you're below contempt, and I won't respond" model, because their answers are lacking. Take it as a compliment.
Yeah, it's not like wonk or I bothered to respond to club. Good point.

Not Me 10-19-2004 11:18 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Dissent. I loathe and detest Wanker with every fiber of my being, but I don't think club got the better of him in the debate in question. club is being disingenuous, or parroting the party line without thinking about it.
Regardless of who you think "won," Club is one of the few posters who genuinely tries to have civilized discourse on the merits and taxwonk has tried to turn the discussion into a name-calling flame war.

bilmore 10-19-2004 11:23 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Yeah, it's not like wonk or I bothered to respond to club. Good point.
Too many of the responses seem to include "well, it's not like a serious person asked this, but . . . '

Tyrone Slothrop 10-19-2004 11:25 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Too many of the responses seem to include "well, it's not like a serious person asked this, but . . . '
Find one of them and quote it here. Not wonk's last post. One before that.

Hank Chinaski 10-19-2004 11:26 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Me
Regardless of who you think "won," Club is one of the few posters who genuinely tries to have civilized discourse on the merits and taxwonk has tried to turn the discussion into a name-calling flame war.
I feel if we all took an IQ test TW would be the only two digit poster. No offense.

Say_hello_for_me 10-19-2004 11:26 PM

Kerry on the war on terror
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Me
a name-calling flame war.
God I hate those. And I'll second your characterization of Club. The guy either keeps it civilized, or walks away with dignity.


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