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How was Hussein going to get those WMDs to our shore? He was a fucking despot. He KILLED fundamentalists for years.

DESPOTS ARE INTERESTED IN SELF PRESERVATION. We could have kept him controlled forever. As longs as he stayed in scotch and whores, he'd never do more than make overblown threats. The Iraqi army turned out to be a fucking joke. His entire control appratus was a fabrication. The guy had a ragtag group of lackeys backing him up and scaaring the shit out of the citizenry to stay in charge. WE KILLED AN ENEMY WE HAD UNDER OUR THUMB IN FAVOR OF A NEW INSTABLE QUAGMIRE WHERE A TRUE NUCLEAR DISAATER COULD OCCUR SOMEDAY.

Ultimately, the Saudis are our biggest problem. But your dipshit hero is too busy sucking them off to do anything about the millions of out of wwork angry young Saudis. that regime will fall someday, and when it does, thaat place will become THE scariest motherfucking problem zone we'll ever know.

Law suits and the President
 

Of course, you don't say WHEN these peoplem said Hussein had WMDs. I'll do it for you... They said he had them until several examinations of facilities indicated he probably didn't have them, at which point Blix said he needed more time. Bush, of course, wisely scotched thaat idea because every second that wentt by at that time was working against him, as international sentiment was growing against a war every day.

It was cooked from the fucking get go. Come on... You know a fucking pretext when you see one. You're a fucking lawyer...

The Isrealis? They'd say Hussein had intercontinental ballistic missiles to effect regime change in the Mid East.

Law suits and the President
 

I'd rather not google up one for every group listed, but just for starters:

1) Bill Clinton:

"Former US president Bill Clinton said in October, 2003 during a visit to Portugal that he was convinced Iraq had weapons of mass destruction up until the fall of Saddam Hussein, Portuguese Prime Minister Jose Manuel Durao Barroso said.

"When Clinton was here recently he told me he was absolutely convinced, given his years in the White House and the access to privileged information which he had, that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction until the end of the Saddam regime," he said in an interview with Portuguese cable news channel SIC Noticias."

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So lemme get this straight... The man who can't be believed on anything - King Liar - is suddenly the proof supporting Bush? Thats rich. If he lied or misrepresented for political gain for so long, why are you suddenly so quick to cite him here? You suddenly think he was being entirely honest? And the best you have is a hearsay quote? You don't try cases, do you?

What did Blix have to say about it? His quotes are pretty numerous, aren't they? Wasn't he rather scathing about Bush's refusal to go through with inspections? Oh, and what about the US inspector who tore Bush's intelligence a new ass after the invasion? What ever happened to him?

Faculty discussion at IU-Indy
 

Interesting debate going on over at the Indiana University School of Law in Indanapolis.

Lots of discussion about this article.

Gist is that an assistant professor who recently was recently approved by the faculty to associate professor after three years of teaching was denied contract extension. He says that it's becauase he is pro-war and refused to sign a letter of support for Ward Churchill.

There's a fauclty member in the comments at Volokh who denies the allegation but doesn't really go further into reasons that the contract wasn't extended. More discussion from current students here, here and here.

It seems that everyone agrees that the article was poorly written. The article suggests that he sought tenure, when he's not eligible for tenure for three more years.

Other than that, go read the Volokh discussion. I think it's interesting.

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What doesn't make sense. Public schools are a disaster. Cause: teachers unions. Do you have trouble understanding the first sentence or the second?

The third point woven in there (Billmore comment) is that the public schools have gradually gone downhill and our experience (given our relatively similar middle age) is not what current students or their parents encounter. And I think you know that given your demographics.




So Germany and the German navy posed an active threat? Cite please? Was is those half dozen Germans who landed on Long Island?

So Roosevelt was just making a statement of present intent without no ulterior motive and his actions in lend lease completely to the contrary were just coindental and those statements of present intent were not intended to get him another term where he could affect his real intentions? And I am the dick? Fuck you (in the best possible way:D).

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Seems like it seemed obvious to about 59M of us.

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And President George P. Bush after him.

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US Mail? Nah, you could never mail anthrax...




Yes, the Iran-Iraq war and his aggression in Kuwait illustrate your points.

I agree with this. One good approach is take out Mecca and Medina now, nationalize the oilfields and be done with it, but your liberal pals would piss their already soaked diapers.

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More time? Yes, because 10 years wasn't enough. OTOH, Bush isn't even allowed 2 years to complete the success story he has set in motion. Nice consistency.

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Anyone who agrees with Bush is wrong, even those people, like Bubba, who you normally idolize, and everyone who disagrees with Bush is an expert.

Now I understand.

double hattrick!
 

a first! unbelievable!

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I hung out with George P. Trust me. You don't want him to become President.

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He's the JFK Jr. of our party, no?

Fucking Groundhog's Day
 

Round and round and round we go . . .

There's no changing minds on this topic, but I'll admit, it's good to see some passion back on this board. It's been missing for a long while.

To Sidd and Ty: I wasn't ignoring your posts where you chided me on the murder rate. I just got sick of the bait and switch you both were pulling. You continuously want to lump in the invasion and 2003-mid 2004 post invasion numbers together, instead of looking at the numbers as they exist in 05. Apples and oranges. You also don't want to recognize that, of course, the death rate in the middle of a conflict in an unstable nation is going to be higher than the number in stable democracy at peace. The issue is simply one of perspective, which I understand your side has difficulty grasping. Instead, we are back to the Bush Lied mantra. It's just so 2004.