LawTalkers - Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

She may very well be -- supposedly she was cagey in interviews back in the day when caginess was understood to be a coy admission of such things -- but she's adopted a form of Christianity in which gay sex is viewed as prohibited. That strikes the rigorously modern mind as hypocritical, but it's possible to be gay and believe one's sexuality is on the naughty list, no different from wanting to have extramarital affairs but feeling these are religiously prohibited. The idea that orientation is (a.) more structural than mere urge and (b.) eventually trumps belief because "God made you that way" is very recent. God made some people very horny but to a religious way of thinking that doesn't mean he wants you to fuck anything that moves.

I read this and came away just thinking that Michelle Shocked is not well. I have no idea if she's a lesbian, thinks god hates fags, or both. I get the impression from reading the above attempt at an interview that she doesn't either. But she's highly suspicious and has an unhealthy thing for twitter.

But, I liked a few of her songs back in the 90s and have an album or two of hers floating around. I really liked her piece on the Dead Man Walking soundtrack. I would have assumed that most of her audience was gay, if she wasn't.

Adder

03-25-2013 11:58 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

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Originally Posted by hank chinaski (Post 477886)

i know i shouldn't drink so much, but i wouldn't go on a rant against someone else who drinks too much.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

03-26-2013 09:12 AM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 477887)

The problem with religions is they're not analogous to other things.

Few things are.

Not Bob

03-26-2013 10:15 AM

What's it like to be a skateboard punk rocker?

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 477886)

I know I shouldn't drink so much, but I wouldn't go on a rant against someone else who drinks too much.

I learned the answer to the age-old question of whether one can separate the art from the artist from last week's Glee episode - defend the art, but sing a cover version of Bobby Brown instead of Chris Brown.

Unfortunately, I can't think of anyone else named "Shocked" to put in the re line. And while Jack Wagner's "All I Need" is musical delight, it ain't no "Flight of the Valkyries," amigo.

ThurgreedMarshall

03-26-2013 10:52 AM

Jesus Christ.

'The female victims, these officials declared, had invited the attacks by participating in public protests. “How do they ask the Ministry of Interior to protect a woman when she stands among men?” Reda Saleh Al al-Hefnawi, a lawmaker from the Muslim Brotherhood’s political party, asked at a parliamentary meeting on the issue.'
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'In the 18 confirmed attacks that day, six women were hospitalized, according to interviews conducted by human rights groups. One woman was stabbed in her genitals, and another required a hysterectomy.'
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'“You see those women speaking like ogres, without shame, politeness, fear or even femininity,” declared a television preacher, Ahmed Abdullah, known as Sheik Abu Islam.

Such a woman is “like a demon,” he said, wondering why anyone should sympathize with those “naked” women who “went there to get raped.”'

Yep. It's all about repressed sexual mores.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/26/wo...20130326&_r=1&

TM

Adder

03-26-2013 11:08 AM

Re: Jesus Christ.

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 477892)

all

Indeed.

ThurgreedMarshall

03-26-2013 12:17 PM

Okay, maybe not FOR REAL, for real.

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 477893)

Indeed.

I think you're kind of retarded.

Woman stabbed in the vagina. Sexual component? Yes. Is it about lust or sexual repression? No. You'll say, "But that doesn't mean it's all about power." You'll pat yourself on the back while you and Sebby jerk each other off.

TM

Adder

03-26-2013 12:38 PM

Re: Okay, maybe not FOR REAL, for real.

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 477894)

I think you're kind of retarded.

Right back at you.

ThurgreedMarshall

03-26-2013 12:55 PM

Re: Okay, maybe not FOR REAL, for real.

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 477895)

Right back at you.

Good one!

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

03-26-2013 01:07 PM

Re: Jesus Christ.

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 477893)

Indeed.

Dude, somehow, I get the sense that you're the sort of person for whom complimenting a waitresses is all about sex. Rape is less about sex than comlimenting a watresses' hair.

taxwonk

03-26-2013 01:18 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 477890)

Few things are.

That would make religion analogous, wouldn't it?

Adder

03-26-2013 01:51 PM

Re: Jesus Christ.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 477898)

Dude, somehow, I get the sense that you're the sort of person for whom complimenting a waitresses is all about sex.

I'm going to let the rape thing go, as we're all tired of it.

But if you think you can compliment the waitress's hair without her wondering if you're trying to make it about sex, you're probably wrong.

Tyrone Slothrop

03-26-2013 01:53 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 477890)

Few things are.

Most things are like other things in that they are unlike other things?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

03-26-2013 01:58 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 477899)