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yes. the 30% that felt bush stole the election, that thought the war was wrong and was to get oil for Cheney.

everyone else realizes that it's shit that needs to happen- even if some of it shouldn't, in retrospect. it is a practical necessity.

What's funniest to me (and i am pro abortion rights) is that the libs bring up legal arguments to say we shouldn't torture terrorists when the torture could save lives- article 5 of the blah blah blah would be impacted- yet those same people argue that abortion is a practical necessity w/o ever admitting the legal support is shakier than anything Bush has rasied to justify detainee treatment.

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outside my home? yes. on occasion. I'll eat at a non-kosher restaurant.

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Spicy Puerto Rican sausage?

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outside my home? yes. on occasion. I'll eat at a non-kosher restaurant.

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Well, once again then, I'm proven factually inaccurate.

And thank you for bringing me to a new low. Generally, I'm wrong about things I know nothing about, but opine liberally on anyway. Being wrong on my own knowledge of people I know sets the bar that much lower...

But then, my life has been one long limbo up to this point, so I guess I shouldn't be shocked.

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I'm talking about historical view looking back (in 20 or 30 years), not current view.

I understand why as a general matter this stuff cannot be public. I think the Senate Intelligence Committee should know what is going on with the camps etc. and have some oversight. It is not my impression that they do currently, but I am not positive. Have not yet finished the WaPo article that started this discussion; it probably would flesh out the oversight issues for me.

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when i first meet my in-laws (food-wise non-observant), I was on aserious training diet and would not eat bacon (or pork). I had the pleaure of sitting at their home for breakfast, they having been told they can't make bacon because I don't eat it- and them hating me cuz I'm schot (dtb?). Next meal - kosher- honey baked corned beef. I get through the meal to coffee. "Hank, would you like cream?" Why, yes- but no thank you for that powder- I'm sorry I don't ingest. DO YOU HAVE MILK?" aaaaaarrrrghhhhh.
Hank fucking up again.

It's why I don't get bothered when dtb points out my typos. I'm used to Jesish women giving me constructive criticisms.

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• Black Democratic leaders in Maryland say that racially tinged attacks against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele in his bid for the U.S. Senate are fair because he is a conservative Republican.
  
  Such attacks against the first black man to win a statewide election in Maryland include pelting him with Oreo cookies during a campaign appearance, calling him an "Uncle Tom" and depicting him as a black-faced minstrel on a liberal Web log.
  
  Operatives for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) also obtained a copy of his credit report -- the only Republican candidate so targeted.
  
  But black Democrats say there is nothing wrong with "pointing out the obvious."
  
  "There is a difference between pointing out the obvious and calling someone names," said a campaign spokesman for Kweisi Mfume, a Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate and former president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
  
  State Sen. Lisa A. Gladden, a black Baltimore Democrat, said she does not expect her party to pull any punches, including racial jabs at Mr. Steele, in the race to replace retiring Democratic U.S. Sen. Paul S. Sarbanes.
  
  "Party trumps race, especially on the national level," she said. "If you are bold enough to run, you have to take whatever the voters are going to give you. It's democracy, perhaps at its worse, but it is democracy."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro...4932-4054r.htm

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FWIW, I think you undersell the long-term ramifications this will have on our foreign policy.

As for this story being out of the news, there was an article about the Guantanamo prisoners in yesterday's Washington Post. Link Here

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Did your grandpappy say the same thing in 1944 about the Japanese-Americans stuck into prison camps?

S_A_M

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WMDs. Now they are in Syria and Iran. Good thing we have such a convenient platform to launch the battles against those two terrorist states.

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Anymore or yet?

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How did they get from Iraq to Iran and Syria? Are you saying that our military allowed them to escape? Why are you badmouthing our troops?

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Dude, I have a news flash for you. As far as news stories go, the Japanese internment is just below the Plant/Page reunion tour of a few years ago.

It may be on your radar screen as a major historical matter, but to 99.9% of this country - and most of the rest of the world - its a "Eh, yeh, how bout that? That wasn't cool" kind of story.

It kinda got bulldozed over by that WWII story that was taking place at the same time. That seemed to get a bit more press.

But I'm sure your Japanese History 101 professor had it up there in the Top 5 of the 20th century. Maybe he even referred to it as "Our Own Holocaust." Just goes to prove you should never take anything seriously from a person we both know now probably owns a Segway.

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I understand you're still recovering from the pork thing, Seb, but this was a pretty weak effort.

S_A_M

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The question was the motivation. The subject of the heninous picture is projecting, npi iykwim, what he thinks the receiver wuld find too tempting to resist. Based on what he would want or thinks women want (probablyfrom watching too much porn or hanging out at centerfolds). The receiver meanwhile, is totally squicked.

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My one grandpappy was a German stuck in a Allied prison camp, and the other one was a Marine in the Pacific Rim watching some of his buddies in prison camps be summarily executed, so - in all honesty - the former probably couldn't care less, and the latter was probably upset when then let all those Japanese-Americans out.

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If by Syrian and Iran you mean the imaginations of Cheney and his aides, I agree.

But, I must confess, I do see your point about Iran. The close alliance between Iran and Iraq from 1979 through to today all but gurantees Hussein spirited the arms to his brothhers in arms in the Iranian regime.

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I don't think that Saddam's evil will make an impression on US memories like the Nazis did, but I'm good with people's impression of W's presidency 20 years or so as "really not cool" and, when Bush I comes up, saying "is he that one who did all that stupid shit overseas or whatever?"

Is this sins of the son visited on the father? Hm.

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No its not. Its a fact. Nobody gives a rats ass about the Japanese Internment.

They built a few momunents and held some ceremonies, but its another non-story to anyone but a few people on the fringe left.

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Me too, as in solidarity with my jewish and moderate radical Islamic amigos, I no eatta the pig.

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What, then, in your opinion, do we care about?

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I just meant I wasn't taking a position because I don't think the DoI really helps address the question. The fact that the FF thought (or pretended to for purposes of pissing of Georgie) that certain rights (life, liberty, pursuit of tail, etc.) were inalienable to (rich white male) humanity, and certain similar-looking rights were listed in the Constitution (due process, religion, property), isn't that useful in determining if they would have thought those provision applied to foreigners (or property) outside of the US.

FWIW, I think the founders probably believed that some constitutional protections were inalienable human rights (or were at least in furtherance thereof), but certainly not all, and that there were inalienable human rights that were not expressly enumerated (and didn't need to be because they were, well, inalienable human rights). The conclusion that the "inalienable rights of all men" are not the same as those enshrined in the US Constitution but exist outside of it seems inescapable to me, based on both the nature of the enumerated rights (most of which are, in their specific iterations, obviously contingent and/or alienable) and the very nature of the constitutional document (the fact that it is amendable, and therefore any rights enumerated therein may be rescinded, even more than the 9th A).

So I vote "partial overlap."

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Football.

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Perhaps I talked to you earlier today.......



I really thought classless and malicious slander was beneath you. I'm disappointed.

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I was trying to help analize. I'm much more helpful on PB than FB.

Why would gay guys buy gay porno? Hell if you think about who even linked to those pictures here is someone maybe a guy- nfh/ncs- one of them

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But what about the Latinos? Will they still be mowing my lawn?

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Self-defence is allowed.

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If men like this had a decent understanding of the female psyche, they wouldn't have to resort to Casual Encounters and its ilk to begin with.

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I lurve you. PLatonically. Nttawwt.

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Sebby's penis.*






* It is usually not my style to post these kinds of responses, and I will not make a habit of it. But this was one that was just so obvious that I couldn't imagine why no one else responded.

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I think what youa re trying to say, si what woman in her right mind would have sex with a guy who would put a naked picture of his schlong and sclong alone on Craigslist? It is a step above banging a flasher in a trenchcoat and several steps below banging a porn star (who they probably are aspiring to be).

It is crass, vulgar, tacky, depraved and disgusting. It also shows a certain lack of social skills, decorum and gentlemanliness. I also suspect that the schlong pic people might suck in bed but that is not the point.

And, like I said, women are not visual people. We need to know the context of the tool, not just see a pic of it hanging solo

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I don't eat bacon out respect for my jewish (and moderate radical Islamic) friends

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Such a man. Are you a professor at the Spanky School of Intergender Relations? Not relevant at all but to warn a gal of a possibl hurrishave situation. If it was just that, we all have dildoes. See my prior post.

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2.

All that having been said, I think the debate over respecting British rights post-revolution is quite revealing about the fact that many - at least the Hamiltonians and Adamses - believed in a government that was limited both within and outside of its borders.

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Yes, that's another way to put it. I was trying to be sensitive in case we have some schlong-posters in our midst.

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I approve of your rotating avatars. It gives me someone to compete against, and shows how fine mine are. Like how Disney World likes Universal being down the road.

SAM you need to go back. I keep having this kneejerk reaction to get mean to you, and I like you. This did not happen pre-dumping old familar avatar.

balt, I know you won't listen to me, or anyone else who cares about you enough to give you valid advice, but you need to change your avatar. It doesn't suit you.

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That could be a new sig line for you, no?

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Not much, from what I hear and see. We're all wired into a speed trip, running around on the wheel of commerce. Few people have the time to care unless it hits them between the eyes.

How many people do you know who vote solely based on who would lower their taxes? How many people know anything about the world other than entertainment and sports? This board is not representative of most of society. Most educated people talk politics, but nobody's got the time or energy anymore to do anything about it.

People are terribly apathetic and disinterested. Most people just learn to do their job and play fantasy football. Its just the way things go over here. There's time to discuss and fight about politics and the world, but no time to change anything.

There's also an intellectual scorn addressed to people who try to change things. The conventional wisdom is that politicians are scum, the system is busted, and the best you can do is get what you can for yourself and live your life. To be idealistic is comical. Everybody shares a belief that whatever new boss they put in is just the same old boss.

And to a great degree, they're right. Why bother anymore?

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I thought you had her on ignore?