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Where do you get the authority for that?

I think you're suggested spelling could be pronounced "slootiest." Perhaps that will work in Canada, but I think Americans like their sluts with flat "u"s.

dtb	09-12-2005 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Where do you get the authority for that?

I think you're suggested spelling could be pronounced "slootiest." Perhaps that will work in Canada, but I think Americans like their sluts with flat "u"s.

That sounds perverse.

(I've given up on you and your "Your/You're" problem.)

sebastian_dangerfield

09-12-2005 05:24 PM

Narcissism's highest point

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
TO is a jackass, no question. And he's an idiot as well. But there are a couple of things that come to mind every time they cover his story and he doesn't open his mouth.

1. Teams cut players all the fucking time. Yez, I know the signing bonuses do an end-around, to a certain extent, the no-guranteed money nature of the business, but they are still at such an advantage, that I never automatically jump on a player when he holds out.

2. TO played his ass off for them last year and played damn well.

3. TO busted his ass to make it back in time for the Superbowl when neither he nor the team could find one doctor that would (i) say he would be ready to play or (ii) clear him to play. When his team needed him most, he worked harder than anyone else to come back and contribute. And he played great.

4. The Eagles made him sign a waiver freeing them from responsibility for playing in the Super Bowl. They essentially said, "We'd love to have you play, but if you hurt yourself, we're not taking any responsibility and you're on your fucking own." He signed it. And he did as much for the team as he did for himself.

5. His salary is below market for the level of player he is. Of course, he might want to take a step back and see that he isn't making what he should be making because he is such a risk to be a pain in the ass. And his latest round of bullshit is why he makes what he does. But, that ain't gonna happen.

If he weren't such an asshole, with a big mouth and ego, who hired another asshole to represent him, he would be in the right, as far as I'm concerned. Now, the bad-mouthing Donovan and not talking to him or his coaches is just inexcusable and a good agent would explain that it won't get him anywhere and makes him look like a fucking prick. But his agent doesn't even know what a fucking prick looks like.

I guarantee you, if Brett Favre (and I couldn't be more sick of the coverage of him and his fucking Hurricaned family) determined he was underpaid and took it to the press after playing injured in the Superbowl, he'd be labeled a warrior and the Salsburies of the world would suck his dick harder and longer than they currently do (if that is even possible).

TM

(And no, I'm not whiffing. I get it. I just wanted to get that off my chest.)

I personally think its a huge stage act the team has drummed up to explain why they’ll yet again find themselves losing post season.

This city doesn't get to win anything. Thats just the rule.

taxwonk

09-12-2005 05:24 PM

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I prefer my sluts "u"s to be nice, round, and even a little bit bouncy.

sebastian_dangerfield

09-12-2005 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
That sounds perverse.

(I've given up on you and your "Your/You're" problem.)

How? There are many ways. That's quite a large softball I've served up there...

robustpuppy

09-12-2005 05:26 PM

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Speaking of Canada, last night I had a dream that Peter Jennings was deeply in love with me and that we had a grand but non-sexual affair in the twilight of his life. We spent most of our time with a large crowd underwater and I learned how to ice skate backwards and nearly came to physical blows with another woman during a game of Scrabble.

I miss Peter Jennings.

sebastian_dangerfield

09-12-2005 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
That sounds perverse.

(I've given up on you and your "Your/You're" problem.)

Its terminal. I change my mind as I type... I also do it when I talk. Drives me nuts. I can never decide whether to go with past or present tense and I'm always mashing the two together.

robustpuppy

09-12-2005 05:29 PM

Narcissism's highest point

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This city doesn't get to win anything. Thats just the rule.

Don't be such a pessimist. The Eagles won the NFC championship. They just didn't win the Super Bowl because the gods were smiling on Massachusetts for the 2003-04 baseball/football seasons. Now Boston is subject to a permanent "quit your fucking whining" order. As soon as the Eagles win the Super Bowl, Philly will get one too.

dtb	09-12-2005 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Its terminal. I change my mind as I type... I also do it when I talk. Drives me nuts. I can never decide whether to go with past or present tense and I'm always mashing the two together.

OK. I'm coming out of retirement to ask you this one very important question:

You don't think the your/you're distinction has anything to do with the past or present tense, right?

(just say no)

sebastian_dangerfield

09-12-2005 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Speaking of Canada, last night I had a dream that Peter Jennings was deeply in love with me and that we had a grand but non-sexual affair in the twilight of his life. We spent most of our time with a large crowd underwater and I learned how to ice skate backwards and nearly came to physical blows with another woman during a game of Scrabble.

I miss Peter Jennings.

I dreamt that I was hanging out with Alanis Morisette, but she was very ill. I kept trying to get away from her because she was doing some sort of spoken word gig like VH1 Storytellers. She was singing all her awful songs.

This was the easiest dream to interpret... I'd heard her earlier at Starbucks, where they play that awful fucking acoustic version of her record. My disgust from the morning had revisted me in my dreams. Simple mind; simple dreams...

But I can't explain why suddently, at the end, she was Betty White instead of Alanis Morisette.

Hank Chinaski

09-12-2005 05:36 PM

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Try "y'all." It works fine in place of either. No need for dumb rules to remember.

ABBAKiss

09-12-2005 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
but I think Americans like their sluts with flat "u"s.

TITS! Ginormous TITS!

dtb	09-12-2005 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I dreamt that I was hanging out with Alanis Morisette, but she was very ill. I kept trying to get away from her because she was doing some sort of spoken word gig like VH1 Storytellers. She was singing all her awful songs.

Is it cool not to like Alanis? It must be, because I have a perfect track record of being always (and in all ways) uncool. I like her (I think the streak is safe.) Her last record wasn't my favorite, but there are 3 or 4 good songs.

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But I can't explain why suddently, at the end, she was Betty White instead of Alanis Morisette.

Dude. That is fucked up.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

09-12-2005 05:42 PM

Narcissism's highest point

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Amen. Plus, they ask players to re-structure their contracts *all* the time to take less money, and you don't hear washed-up nobodies on ESPN or talk radio ragging the GMs for not recognizing the sanctity of contracts -- "when a real man puts his name on that piece of paper . . ."

Come on. Both sides know this, and the numbers are a fiction designed by agents to look good and players to show they are respected. Two things matter in an NFL contract. The signing bonus and the first 2-3 years of the contract. The last couple of years are always huge numbers thrown in for show. The restructuring is almost always over those last couple of years, which are 50-100% higher than the rest of the contract. So everyone knows it's fiction, and the restructuring is to get it back to where it should be.

sebastian_dangerfield

09-12-2005 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
OK. I'm coming out of retirement to ask you this one very important question:

You don't think the your/you're distinction has anything to do with the past or present tense, right?

(just say no)

I was wrong to call it a tense issue. Its really more a construction issue:

I start writing "You're suggesting 'slutiest' instead of 'sluttiest' has no authority behind it." I realize its bad form as I write.

Now, mid-thought, I shift and decide to instead go with "your suggested spelling." But I don't make the necessary switch from "you're" to "your."

The synpases misfire; I intend to say three or four different things and type as I think. The jumbled mess that emerges is Hank-like.

Jesus... did I just write that? Perhaps it is time to consider rehab...

sebastian_dangerfield

09-12-2005 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
Is it cool not to like Alanis? It must be, because I have a perfect track record of being always (and in all ways) uncool. I like her (I think the streak is safe.) Her last record wasn't my favorite, but there are 3 or 4 good songs.

Dude. That is fucked up.

No. I just can't deal with her anymore. I was beaten senseless - bloody - with her first disc by every disc jockey in the US. It didn't needed to be retreaded in acoustic form.

ThurgreedMarshall

09-12-2005 06:06 PM

Narcissism's highest point

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Come on. Both sides know this, and the numbers are a fiction designed by agents to look good and players to show they are respected. Two things matter in an NFL contract. The signing bonus and the first 2-3 years of the contract. The last couple of years are always huge numbers thrown in for show. The restructuring is almost always over those last couple of years, which are 50-100% higher than the rest of the contract. So everyone knows it's fiction, and the restructuring is to get it back to where it should be.

So what? The point is, when a player whose contract is not "where it should be" because they have outperformed the team's expectations holds out to get what they deserve, the team, fans (and ESPN, as not Bob pointed out) pull that "be a man and stick by your agreement" bullshit.

TM

NotFromHere

09-12-2005 06:09 PM

Narcissism's highest point

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This city doesn't get to win anything. Thats just the rule.

Don't even think that Philly is the only city living under that rule. I mean, beyond the WNBA (bfd) the last championship (and only I think) parade was in 1979.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

09-12-2005 06:14 PM

Narcissism's highest point

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
So what? The point is, when a player whose contract is not "where it should be" because they have outperformed the team's expectations holds out to get what they deserve, the team, fans (and ESPN, as not Bob pointed out) pull that "be a man and stick by your agreement" bullshit.

TM

Because both sides agreed to teh first couple of years knowing it was the contract. Both sides agreed to the last couple of years knowing it would be tossed by both sides, but was included as window dressing. You don't see players holding out over the last year, $15m part.

ETA: Oh, I get it now. You're just pissed at being an associate. If you bill loads of hours the partners pay you the same thing anyway, with maybe a token bonus. If you bill shite, you get canned.

Welcome to life.

futbol fan

09-12-2005 06:14 PM

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I think dtb, drunk and power-mad, has finally overstepped her bounds. "Slutiest" just doesn't work. Slooty, slooty, slooty. No good. Would you call the squirrelly sock nutiest? Is silly the putiest? Does Hank go to Epcot London and order the chip butiest? I think not.

robustpuppy

09-12-2005 06:16 PM

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I can't believe I have an opinion on anything related to football (is this a demon spawn?), but I agree. TO deserves criticism for many things, but not simply for trying to get a better deal.

bold_n_brazen

09-12-2005 06:16 PM

Narcissism's highest point

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

4. The Eagles made him sign a waiver freeing them from responsibility for playing in the Super Bowl. They essentially said, "We'd love to have you play, but if you hurt yourself, we're not taking any responsibility and you're on your fucking own." He signed it. And he did as much for the team as he did for himself.

This has been disproven in about a million different news sources. Apparently, the doctor he was seeing asked him to sign a release but the team never did.

It's like the magic loogie. The magic waiver. Didn't happen.

dtb	09-12-2005 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
I think dtb, drunk and power-mad, has finally overstepped her bounds. "Slutiest" just doesn't work. Slooty, slooty, slooty. No good. Would you call the squirrelly sock nutiest? Is silly the putiest? Does Hank go to Epcot London and order the chip butiest? I think not.

I am not drunk.

(I know not-drunk is a state of consciousness with which you have only a passing familiarity.)

NotFromHere

09-12-2005 06:25 PM

Aeon flux remake

I would not have known who this was without the cheat sheet.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/mo/WMG/AeonFlux_150x208.jpg
hint, rhymes with charleeeze

Miss Crabtree

09-12-2005 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
Is silly the putiest?

I don't know about Silly, but I'm the purtiest.

NotFromHere

09-12-2005 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
Is silly the putiest? Does Hank go to Epcot London and order the chip butiest? I think not.

What?

Miss Crabtree

09-12-2005 06:30 PM

Aeon flux remake

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Originally posted by NotFromHere
I would not have known who this was without the cheat sheet.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/mo/WMG/AeonFlux_150x208.jpg
hint, rhymes with charleeeze

Well, yes, except for her.

ThurgreedMarshall

09-12-2005 06:30 PM

Narcissism's highest point

Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Because both sides agreed to teh first couple of years knowing it was the contract. Both sides agreed to the last couple of years knowing it would be tossed by both sides, but was included as window dressing. You don't see players holding out over the last year, $15m part.

ETA: Oh, I get it now. You're just pissed at being an associate. If you bill loads of hours the partners pay you the same thing anyway, with maybe a token bonus. If you bill shite, you get canned.

Welcome to life.

Oh, I get it now. You like using analogies that don't apply to try to make your point.

I don't have a contract with my firm. I knew this before we started this conversation. Can you post the salary cap information in the lawyer's league you play in?

If a player signs a contract, gets his guaranteed bonus and one year's salary and then injures himself, he gets cut. If he signs a contract that is heavier on the back end because they want to sign another player now and he gives to make room under the salary cap, the team can cut him later on or force him to renegotiate if they don't feel like keeping their end of the deal. If a player signs a best-case-scenario contract and performs exactly the way the team expects and the market changes for players in his position after the first year, his contract is worthless.

If a player signs a long term contract that isn't worth much and far exceeds the team's expectations, he's supposed to honor the contract? That's some bullshit. And the teams screaming and yelling about players honoring their contracts is a steaming pile of bullshit. But it must be magical because you seem to think it tastes great.

TM

NotFromHere

09-12-2005 06:36 PM

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notcasesensitive

09-12-2005 06:37 PM

If you wondered...

1. Loss of power at a law firm for one hour translates into a 2-3 hour loss of productivity. At least.

2. It is less nice to learn about the latest al Queda tape singling out Los Angeles as a target (which was released yesterday - happy 9/11) while experiencing a random loss of power in the middle of the day throughout large portions of the city.

3. I want to go home now.

That is all. Carry on.

Replaced_Texan

09-12-2005 06:38 PM

Aeon flux remake

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Originally posted by NotFromHere
I would not have known who this was without the cheat sheet.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/mo/WMG/AeonFlux_150x208.jpg
hint, rhymes with charleeeze

I think this casting was announced two, maybe three years ago...

Gattigap

09-12-2005 06:38 PM

If you wondered...

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
1. Loss of power at a law firm for one hour translates into a 2-3 hour loss of productivity. At least.

0.6 hours: Screaming at IT Department for losing your documents which were in process.

ThurgreedMarshall

09-12-2005 06:39 PM

Narcissism's highest point

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
This has been disproven in about a million different news sources. Apparently, the doctor he was seeing asked him to sign a release but the team never did.

It's like the magic loogie. The magic waiver. Didn't happen.

I admit I'm not up on this. Vacation, man. Spent all my time kayaking.

TM

greatwhitenorthchick

09-12-2005 06:39 PM

I had no idea...

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
This is indeed a dark day in FB history.

TM

I think ABBA and I can still have sex with each other, if that helps.

LessinSF

09-12-2005 06:39 PM

Aeon flux remake

Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I would not have known who this was without the cheat sheet.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/mo/WMG/AeonFlux_150x208.jpg
hint, rhymes with charleeeze

Fascinating.

NotFromHere

09-12-2005 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I think this casting was announced two, maybe three years ago...

Your point?

spookyfish

09-12-2005 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by NotFromHere
Don't even think that Philly is the only city living under that rule. I mean, beyond the WNBA (bfd) the last championship (and only I think) parade was in 1979.

Bitch, please. Waah, waah, waah. Besides the "Major Indoor Soccer League," a misnomer on so many levels, if there ever was one, it's been a drought of forty-one freaking years without a championship in this town. Zip. Zero. Nada. Not. a. sausage. And this between three major sports. Oh sure, we've been within one freaking out within the last eight years, but as usual DE-nied.

So forgive me if I am less than sympathetic to your plight.

Shape Shifter

09-12-2005 07:09 PM

Narcissism's highest point

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Originally posted by spookyfish
Bitch, please. Waah, waah, waah. Besides the "Major Indoor Soccer League," a misnomer on so many levels, if there ever was one, it's been a drought of forty-one freaking years without a championship in this town. Zip. Zero. Nada. Not. a. sausage. And this between three major sports. Oh sure, we've been within one freaking out within the last eight years, but as usual DE-nied.

So forgive me if I am less than sympathetic to your plight.

Are you counting Ohio State? Oops. Sorry to bring that up now.

spookyfish

09-12-2005 07:09 PM

Aeon flux remake

Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I would not have known who this was without the cheat sheet.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/mo/WMG/AeonFlux_150x208.jpg
hint, rhymes with charleeeze

Cheese?

spookyfish

09-12-2005 07:12 PM

Narcissism's highest point

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Are you counting Ohio State? Oops. Sorry to bring that up now.

Oh, the other professional team? Nope. I really couldn't care less about them.

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