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Re: I'm impressed....

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Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 513948)

The kids being promoted by the media were not "literally" in the line of fire. They were far away, in other buildings. And within minutes, on camera spewing nonsense, while their supposed friends were being carted off in ambulances. And the people paid to protect them did nothing.

If you follow Twitter, the actual families of some of the deceased have asked these kids to stop using the names of the dead - and they've been libeled and bullied in the process. Imagine that - a kid defends his killed sister and gets bullied all over Twitter. It's craven and disgusting.

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Ahem.

Dude, we've been friends for nearly 19 years now (good lord). And you are one of the smartest guys I know. But, c'mon...

AR-15s are fun rifles - light-weight, cheap, and no more dangerous, and far less prevalent, than hand guns. There is nothing "High-capacity" or "rapid fire" (if you are trying to actually hit something) about them. Most murders (and suicides) are via a pistol, for a reason. If people were truly earnest about carnage, they'd try to ban shotguns.

Yep. Both parties suck.

SlaveNo(GimmeMyRedHawk44)More

Jesus. You're actually nuts. And if you're going to quote the Constitution, don't make it look like you're not cutting out the part of the sentence you'd like to pretend doesn't exist.

TM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

Slave comes out of retirement for the K. What's the new thread going to be called?

Re: I'm impressed....

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Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 513948)

AR-15s are fun rifles - light-weight, cheap, and no more dangerous, and far less prevalent, than hand guns. There is nothing "High-capacity" or "rapid fire" (if you are trying to actually hit something) about them. Most murders (and suicides) are via a pistol, for a reason. If people were truly earnest about carnage, they'd try to ban shotguns.

SlaveNo(GimmeMyRedHawk44)More

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...n-guns/553937/

"Routine handgun injuries leave entry and exit wounds and linear tracks through the victim’s body that are roughly the size of the bullet. If the bullet does not directly hit something crucial like the heart or the aorta, and the victim does not bleed to death before being transported to our care at the trauma center, chances are that we can save him. The bullets fired by an AR-15 are different: They travel at a higher velocity and are far more lethal than routine bullets fired from a handgun. The damage they cause is a function of the energy they impart as they pass through the body. A typical AR-15 bullet leaves the barrel traveling almost three times faster than—and imparting more than three times the energy of—a typical 9mm bullet from a handgun. An AR-15 rifle outfitted with a magazine with 50 rounds allows many more lethal bullets to be delivered quickly without reloading."

With an AR-15, the shooter does not have to be particularly accurate. The victim does not have to be unlucky. If a victim takes a direct hit to the liver from an AR-15, the damage is far graver than that of a simple handgun-shot injury. Handgun injuries to the liver are generally survivable unless the bullet hits the main blood supply to the liver. An AR-15 bullet wound to the middle of the liver would cause so much bleeding that the patient would likely never make it to the trauma center to receive our care."

Re: I'm impressed....

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 513954)

My understanding is that if the crime scene photos from Sandy Hook ever came out in public, the entire debate would be over pretty quickly. The carnage caused by these weapons is pretty horrific.