not a wedding
 

I want to believe that it was not a wedding party. But goddammit, this administration ran out of free passes a long time ago. Fuck them for making AJ a credible news source. Fuck them.

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No offense, but your post about going to a shelter and finding a tabby lost you all credibility here. We KNOW the cat owners are voting for Kerry.

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I hereby declare this one of the stupidest, hyperbolicalist posts that I have encountered today. The false hysteria about this story is making Michael Moore’s feces on film seem to be serious scholarship by comparison. You liberals and turncoats love to sacrifice W at the altar of the Islamofacists.

Free pass? AJ? Puhleeeeeeeze! You’ve got to be kidding me. Please cite any corroborating evidence that this was a wedding and nothing more, although I doubt you can as you like the mainstream leftwing press don’t vet the propaganda you propagate. If our enemies say it, its gospel, if the President says it, a lie. Let me ask you, has Al Jizzera ever held out a fake video as real news? How about the AP? Would it run fake stories? The USA Today? Any chance the Boston Globe would run stills from commercial porno movies and report them as abuses at Abu Grabe?

I will call Jason Blair and see what he thinks and then get back to you all.

In the meantime I could care less if a wedding was going on here. BFD! Apparently our enemies had their wedding at the wrong time and place, not to mention made the mistake of shooting guns at us rather than throwing rice. How gauche. The truth, whether Bush says it tonite or not is that radical Islamic women and children (or midgets dressed as kids) are the ENEMY and maybe one or more of the ten “kids” would have grown up to fly planes into the Freedom Tower buildings, or blow themselves up at a Walmart after being welcomed to our country by a future dimocrat.

If that’s the price of our safety, bill me.

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A lizard's gotta eat.

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Pussies!

basic thoughts
 

I likewise have a hard time believing that Iran would want to manipulate us into invading Iraq, and would be inclined to think that Chalabi was working his own agenda on that one.

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complete story?
 

Do you know where Privat England and her beau vacationed?

Did you know that outside of a few towns much of Iraq has started having elections?

http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn...t-steyn23.html

So much of what we hear is contradicted, or biased or whatever..but if the above facts about elections are accurate, isn't that something that should have gotten a little more coverage?

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That's interesting, but I'm not sure what it proves, other than that when you ask a journalist what his/her personal political philosophy is, that it skews liberal more than the self-assessment of the population. Doesn't really speak to what the media reports or how it reports it, other than the soft connotation that noone can ever be truly objective.

In any event, why is the comparison of the two Pew surveys thought to be so meaningful? From those numbers, I'd imagine that there's a gap between how people respond to the poll, and how they really behave.

Consider - only 20% of the public considers themselves liberal? Really? Sounds like 25 years hence, Reagan's tarring of the word still leaves that sticky residue.

IMHO, significant portions of the public are still wary of admitting in -- well, in public -- that they're liberal. Overeducated journalists may or may not have that same fear.

Gattigap

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Club --

(a) Interesting, but these numbers are no big shock. I'd bet the numbers are lower than 10-20 years ago. Anyway, don't you really mean that a disproportionate number of those who work in the "media" business consider themselves liberal as compared to the general population?

(b) As a second point -- here we have the market at work. Doesn't this really mean that you conservatives need to get on the stick to balance those numbers out ? Stop complaining and do something (which some are)? Convince your conservative friends of the value of ideas and/or the nobility of a life spent reporting the news, monitoring the government and protecting the little guy's right to know.

Or is this imbalance impossible to resolve because your garden-variety conservative either (i) lacks the requisite literacy to work as a journalist or (ii) is too damn greedy to accept the low salaries? Just an innocent question.

S_A_M

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Yes, a very innocent question indeed. Right up there with, "so how often do you beat your wife."

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Why didn't this get 1/100th of the press coverage that the "US attacks wedding"? Or the purported "child with head blown off"

Talk about a free pass.

marginalizing Sadr
 

The UN would have done this the way it does everything else -- with its permanent people where possible, and with people on loan from members otherwise. The boots on the ground would have been from many different nations, but they all would have been under baby blue helmets.

I really don't understand the significance of the part of the letter, or the part you posted.

When the facts don't agree with National Review Online, it's time to get new facts.

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It came out on a Saturday afternoon. That's surely part of it.

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It also doesn't address the biases of the people who own the media. If you assume that the liberal biases of journalists matter, you should assume the same about the biases of publishers and major corporations, who would have to be acting pretty irrationally to let their employees use their capital to spread lefty messages.

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This statement assumes all newspapers and media outlets write their own news. Of course, this was never true, but more recently becomes far less true. My local paper has almost zero original content for National or Int'l news. Even if the owners cared to intervene in content, the eccomonics or using other news sources would destroy the concern getting anywhere.
don't you watch the Simpson's?

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No it doesn't, but thanks for playing.

Yeah bitch.

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Take a note from FOX News (no word yet on whether they're supposed to put that in quotes) about how to do a piece on liberal bias in the media: You decide to write the story, and then you hunt for an expert to say something in support of what you've already decided to say:

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did she use Harvard stationary and claim to be working for the school?

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Innocent my fat ass!

Look, I don’t care what all of these fancy schmancy biased polls show, I just call it as I see it and the truth is that its hard to tell who Freedom’s worse enemy is, the radical Islamofacists or the godlessly communistic morally equivocating journalists. Maybe it’s a tie.

They both decry Freedom’s promise that we as a nation should be free to think, speak, or act for yourself as long as we don't infringe on no other in the process. They substitute this god-given right with the paternalism of the Big Brother Socialistic Government Machine. Tax and spend. Tax and spend.

Forgetting about their terrorist comrades for a minute the bottom line is that modern day mass mediated journalism is just porn with people wearing clothes. This Fourth Estate is in disrepair, not informing the public but instead acting the clown for its amusement with stories about flatulent pets, freaks in trees and pie eating contests. The ignorant masses are left knowing a snippet of many things but nothing about any one of them and in turn they rattle meaningless slogans and impressionistic witticisms like they are were ivory tower intellectoids. “W is dumya”. “Where’s the beef?” “there is vast right wing conspiracy”……..etc.

Critical thinking had died and we need look no further than the leftwingers on this board for proof.

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Was this silly message formally approved by the Kerry campaign?

I cannot start having my moderators running afoul of the FEC.

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If she could get her hands on Harvard stationary, what would she be doing at FOX?

eta: Happy, Slave?

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This is exactly the exact same thing I thought and am still thinking since I first heard about this story.

What's most interesting to me about this whole mideast media mess is that with all the flack the US is getting re: killing some celebratory terrorists that the media doesn't hold the Pali "freedom fighters" responsible for deliberately targetting Israeli children for murder or for using their own sons and daughters as combustibles. Once again the liberal journalist-terrorist axis of evil is exposed.

Another thought, I often find when reading the CSM or watching FOXNews cover the Pali terrorist insurrections is that there are an inordinate number of Palestinian men and boys in Gaza and the West Bank who seem to do nothing more than fill the streets in disorderly and treasonous protest. Are there no work houses there? After all, idle hands are the demon-Allah's work shop. Further, in an paradoxical dichotomy all of these protesting Palis look well nourished and clothed. All of which leads to me to ask,

Just who is supporting this terrorism? The Eurosocialists? The Saudis? The DNC? Thottam? Findlaw?

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Good one. First laugh this morning, other than the email I received from my buddy in Bethseda who said he saw this morning around 8am - while walking his dog - what appeared to be an Asian hooker dressed like a catholic school girl leaving the home of some 50-year old Hispanic family.

Yes, I'm ecstatic, but more for the money I won and shameless gloating I've had all weekend mocking my hockey friends in Philly

FWIW, I don't think draft-dodger is fair. Clinton? draft-dodger. Cheney? draft-dodger. Granted Bush served in a creampuff unit, but he did actually serve.

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Draft-dodger is totally unfair, and not accurate. Which gave me pause before I used the banner, but I liked it otherwise, and I didn't figure I'd keep it long.

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Interesting that the "coked-out" reference escapes comment, from both sides.

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Well, when it was convenient, anyway.

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i understand the born-again v. coked-out angle, but does anyone under 50 really get bugged by an admission someone took drugs? I think the litmus test of no pot for Supreme's ensures weird-o nerds only. And makes otherwise honest candidates lie about not inhaling starting themselves down a slippery slope of half-truths.

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That litmus test goes all the way down to line attorney hires at DOJ. Bush, of course, is exempt because his drug use was before he passed the bar.

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When I hear this insipid old saw harped on in the leftist media I am reminded of 2 Corinthians 5:17:

"Therefor if any man be in Christ, he is as a NEW creature: old things are passed away; and behold, ALL things are become NEW."

Bottom line, neither I nor a majority of the American electorate care what Bush did back way back when, if anything, because God doesn't care. W has made his piece with the Lord, as have I and as you had better unless you want to spend your eternity with the prophet Mohammed and his child bride.

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I'm going to bet this sock is either GGG, or maybe SAM.

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I think at this point is more of a retribution thing: Republicans gave Clinton so much shit for a) "drug use" and b) draft-dodging that the Democrats can't help but point out when the Republicans put up someone with a similar history (worse on the drug use, maybe better on the draft-dodging, but only barely) up for President.

On a slightly more civil level, the judicial nomination problem is the same thing: the Democrats started it by refusing to confirm Reagan's (wingnut) appointee Bork, then the Republicans had to exact revenge when Clinton started appointing judges, and now Democrats have to respond in kind with Bush.

It's all pretty childish, but it avoids real issues.

Get out now.
 

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I probably should not indulge this stupidity, but listen Hankie, I am not a sock for any current or recent poster. A few years back I posted on Infirm’s board, first as finder of fact and then as master sergeant scrappy macdougal after I lost the log-in for the first. Haven’t been on the Infirm boards in a while and fully new here. I've been called a lot of names in my day, but sock would be a new one.

Don't let yourself become more anti-intellectual fodder for the left wing.

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Was it Ginsburg who got dinked because he admitted smoking dope, once? then we ended up with souter basically because he hadn't gone outside for 20 years. No comment on Souter or Ginsburg, but I'd rather have an occasional pot smoker on the bench than someone who avoids life.

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I'm not sure if I'm a weird-o nerd etc., but I get bugged out by anything related to hard-drugs from an adult. Basically, once you are 17 or 18, you should be expected to follow the laws. Particularly those that would otherwise make you a felon.

I look forward to the day when I can rejoin the side of justice, truth, Hank and Bilmore again. Til them, I am independently Not_You(rs),

Hello

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I agree with you. I'm of a mind that, as long as you're not using now, I don't care what you did before.

I thought it was amusing that the coked out thing escaped revision, when it has proven easier for draft dodgers to win election than it has been for those who are avowed former drug users. Or maybe I just don't know enough about who's a former drug user. I hear Leo McGarry was in rehab for pills once, but he's not an elected official...

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If that's all he admitted to, he was lying. I understand he is, or at least was for some time, a regular partaker.

We ended up with souter because he was really good buddies with John Sununu.

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It comes down to your views of the merits of criminalizing drug use, I think. And obviously you are a weird-o nerd for thinking that smoking weed should be felonious, let alone criminal in any manner.

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Why, just because society has deemed them illegal, or do you think this is evidence of something deeper that we should be concered about?

While I don't do drugs now, I think 17 or 18 is a rather early cut-off.