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baltassoc 09-20-2005 12:35 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Come to think of it, a Burger King in Mecca would be a fitting tribute to Flight 93.
Ummmm. Bacon Double Cheeseburger. Agggggghh.

Secret_Agent_Man 09-20-2005 12:36 PM

Penalizing the Cops
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
Isn't the registration and yearly fees that all entities must pay to their state of incorporation/organization and any other state in which they do business a sufficient fee for having the privilege or incorporating/organizing?
I sometimes hesitate to speak on matters of which I know nothing (believe it or not) -- but I have to ask --

Are you suggesting that the $500 per year (or some similar small amount) that Microsoft pays to the State of Delware as a fee is fair compensation for the benefits they have accrued by incorporating -- and thus no need for any corporate taxation? I though tyhose fees were suppsoed to cover admin. costs.

Hell, I'd think that given its anticompetitive behavior, MS should arguably have to pay double. Those shareholders have assuredly gained plenty of benefits from the separate entity status.

Hank Chinaski 09-20-2005 01:02 PM

Penalizing the Cops
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I sometimes hesitate to speak on matters of which I know nothing (believe it or not) -- but I have to ask --

Are you suggesting that the $500 per year (or some similar small amount) that Microsoft pays to the State of Delware as a fee is fair compensation for the benefits they have accrued by incorporating -- and thus no need for any corporate taxation? I though tyhose fees were suppsoed to cover admin. costs.

Hell, I'd think that given its anticompetitive behavior, MS should arguably have to pay double. Those shareholders have assuredly gained plenty of benefits from the separate entity status.
Delaware has NO sales tax for some reason.

Sidd Finch 09-20-2005 01:40 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1951292005

So in the months after the Tube bombings, what has the UK Muslim community been busy doing?
  • Burger King recalls 'sacrilegious' desserts


    THE fast-food chain, Burger King, is withdrawing its ice-cream cones after the lid of the dessert offended a Muslim.

    The man claimed the design resembled the Arabic inscription for Allah, and branded it sacrilegious, threatening a "jihad".


    The chain is being forced to spend thousands of pounds redesigning the lid with backing from The Muslim Council of Britain. It apologised and said: "The design simply represents a spinning ice-cream cone."

    The offending lid was spotted in a branch in Park Royal last week by business development manager Rashad Akhtar, 27, of High Wycombe.

    He was not satisfied by the decision to withdraw the cones and has called on Muslims to boycott Burger King. He said: "This is my jihad. How can you say it is a spinning swirl? If you spin it one way to the right you are offending Muslims."

    A Muslim Council spokesman said: "We commend the sensitive and prompt action that Burger King has taken."


http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...Cones-pbuh.jpg

I played basketball for about a year in the Nike "Allah flame" shoes. That year, my game was live. No word on whether the ice cream was good.

Just for laughs, I'll take a contrarian position.

Burger King made an intelligent business decision here, and should have considered how its product label might be perceived. You don't dip fries in beef tallow in India, because it pisses people off. You don't use certain number combinations in China because of superstitions (or when you have Chinese investors -- a major restaurant in SF had to petition for an address change just before opening for this reason). You don't film an SNL skit with Guido Sarducci in Vatican City because, while other people realize it's a joke they take offense.

IMHO, it's all stupid, but other people on this board have argued that calling religious people stupid is wrong.

The guy leading this charge is not calling for bombing of Burger King restaurants. He's calling for a boycott by Muslims because of a product they marketted. This is capitalism, plain and simple -- and hardly the dumbest example of a consumer boycott I've seen (how many right-wing figures in the US have called for boycotts based on where companies advertise, or who TV networks let speak?)

When you do business in or with a variety of cultures, you risk fucking up like this. Somehow, I am not moved to care. (Again -- if the religious nut calls for bombing BK, that's an obviously different issue.)

Penske_Account 09-20-2005 01:55 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Just for laughs, I'll take a contrarian position.

Burger King made an intelligent business decision here, and should have considered how its product label might be perceived. You don't dip fries in beef tallow in India, because it pisses people off. You don't use certain number combinations in China because of superstitions (or when you have Chinese investors -- a major restaurant in SF had to petition for an address change just before opening for this reason). You don't film an SNL skit with Guido Sarducci in Vatican City because, while other people realize it's a joke they take offense.

IMHO, it's all stupid, but other people on this board have argued that calling religious people stupid is wrong.
I think calling religious stupid in the context of serious political discussions is wrongly dismissive of a large segment of the electorate and generally off. The IQ of religious people is probably on the same bell curve as that of aetheists. Making fun of religion for comedic purposes is fine, i.e. Guido Sarducci in the Vatican or analyzing a pizza for a papal image is funny.

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch


The guy leading this charge is not calling for bombing of Burger King restaurants. He's calling for a boycott by Muslims because of a product they marketted. This is capitalism, plain and simple -- and hardly the dumbest example of a consumer boycott I've seen (how many right-wing figures in the US have called for boycotts based on where companies advertise, or who TV networks let speak?)
I agree with this. I have not been to BK in at least 15 years but I think I will lunch there today in a counter boycott effourt.

SlaveNoMore 09-20-2005 02:08 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Sidd Finch
The guy leading this charge is not calling for bombing of Burger King restaurants. He's calling for a boycott by Muslims because of a product they marketted.
He used the word "jihad" - whihc I'm sure means a lot of other things to a lot of other people.

Penske_Account 09-20-2005 02:11 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
He used the word "jihad" - whihc I'm sure means a lot of other things to a lot of other people.
To mean it means that this is one battle in the larger holy world war going on between the West and radical Islam. The crusade as Bush referred to it. Or did he mean another jihad?

Hank Chinaski 09-20-2005 02:14 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
To mean it means that this is one battle in the larger holy world war going on between the West and radical Islam. The crusade as Bush referred to it. Or did he mean another jihad?
Do you know of any BKs with covered parking?

Shape Shifter 09-20-2005 02:21 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Just for laughs, I'll take a contrarian position.

Burger King made an intelligent business decision here, and should have considered how its product label might be perceived. You don't dip fries in beef tallow in India, because it pisses people off. You don't use certain number combinations in China because of superstitions (or when you have Chinese investors -- a major restaurant in SF had to petition for an address change just before opening for this reason). You don't film an SNL skit with Guido Sarducci in Vatican City because, while other people realize it's a joke they take offense.

IMHO, it's all stupid, but other people on this board have argued that calling religious people stupid is wrong.

The guy leading this charge is not calling for bombing of Burger King restaurants. He's calling for a boycott by Muslims because of a product they marketted. This is capitalism, plain and simple -- and hardly the dumbest example of a consumer boycott I've seen (how many right-wing figures in the US have called for boycotts based on where companies advertise, or who TV networks let speak?)

When you do business in or with a variety of cultures, you risk fucking up like this. Somehow, I am not moved to care. (Again -- if the religious nut calls for bombing BK, that's an obviously different issue.)
Agreed. It was bad business strategy to make an ice cream cone that looked like the symbol for Allah. If they'd made it so it looked like the Virgin Mary, they'd have pilgrims from all over the world lining up for a fucking ice cream cone.

SlaveNoMore 09-20-2005 02:31 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
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Shape Shifter
Agreed. It was bad business strategy to make an ice cream cone that looked like the symbol for Allah. If they'd made it so it looked like the Virgin Mary, they'd have pilgrims from all over the world lining up for a fucking ice cream cone.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...Cones-pbuh.jpg

The more I look at these - they aren't even close. The one has 5 connected points - the other has 4 and 1.

If anything, to even suggest these are similar is MORE culturally insensitive.

I mean, is all squiggly writing suggestive of Arabic? Is all Arabic writing the same?

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-20-2005 02:31 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Agreed. It was bad business strategy to make an ice cream cone that looked like the symbol for Allah. If they'd made it so it looked like the Virgin Mary, they'd have pilgrims from all over the world lining up for a fucking ice cream cone.
If it looks like the Virgin Mary, can I as a Christian lick it?

taxwonk 09-20-2005 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am not necessarily complaining about local taxes. The benefit there is more tangible and there is more of an oportuntity to address local government on issues. I am talking about the Feds.
In that case, I guess the only morally appropriate action for you to take would be to enlist and offer to pay your own way to Iraq. That would reduce the federal tax burden.

taxwonk 09-20-2005 02:39 PM

tired and dumb
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Are dividends received taxed at a different rate than regular income?

Yes. I forget what the formula is, but they are effectively taxed at a 20% rate if the recipient is in the top bracket.

Shape Shifter 09-20-2005 02:41 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
If it looks like the Virgin Mary, can I as a Christian lick it?
Which denomination?

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-20-2005 02:48 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Which denomination?
Dang, I thought this was universal among Christians. The nuns never told me about the schism between the Virgin Mary Mother of Our Savior the Lord Jesus Christ Ice Cream Cone Lickers and the Virgin Mary Mother of Our Savior the Lord Jesus Christ Ice Cream Cone Non-Lickers. Was this one of those medieval things, or was it more recent - say, a Jim Jones or David Koresh thing?

I am worried that there is so much about my faith that I don't know, and that I will be condemned to everlasting hellfire for it.

Sidd Finch 09-20-2005 02:50 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
He used the word "jihad" - whihc I'm sure means a lot of other things to a lot of other people.
This is true, but the word has various meanings, not all of which involve blowing things up. I think that literally it means "struggle", or maybe "fight" (you'll have to confirm this with Atticus). He is calling for a boycott, and those terms would apply.

Leaving aside, obviously, that if your struggle is over the cap on a fast-food ice cream container, you are in desperate need of a life.

Sidd Finch 09-20-2005 02:51 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
If it looks like the Virgin Mary, can I as a Christian lick it?
Depends where.

Shape Shifter 09-20-2005 02:54 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Dang, I thought this was universal among Christians. The nuns never told me about the schism between the Virgin Mary Mother of Our Savior the Lord Jesus Christ Ice Cream Cone Lickers and the Virgin Mary Mother of Our Savior the Lord Jesus Christ Ice Cream Cone Non-Lickers. Was this one of those medieval things, or was it more recent - say, a Jim Jones or David Koresh thing?

I am worried that there is so much about my faith that I don't know, and that I will be condemned to everlasting hellfire for it.
You'd better lick, just in case. She's a Virgin, she needs some pleasure.

notcasesensitive 09-20-2005 02:56 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
This is true, but the word has various meanings, not all of which involve blowing things up. I think that literally it means "struggle", or maybe "fight" (you'll have to confirm this with Atticus). He is calling for a boycott, and those terms would apply.

Leaving aside, obviously, that if your struggle is over the cap on a fast-food ice cream container, you are in desperate need of a life.
I bet his jihad would change course if BK could figure out a way ($$$$$) to compensate him for his mental anguish over seeing Allah's name on a non-dairy ice cream product.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-20-2005 03:05 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore


I mean, is all squiggly writing suggestive of Arabic? Is all Arabic writing the same?
Doesn't Coca-Cola mean "fuck mohammed and islam"?

SlaveNoMore 09-20-2005 03:06 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Sidd Finch
This is true, but the word has various meanings, not all of which involve blowing things up. I think that literally it means "struggle", or maybe "fight" (you'll have to confirm this with Atticus). He is calling for a boycott, and those terms would apply.

Leaving aside, obviously, that if your struggle is over the cap on a fast-food ice cream container, you are in desperate need of a life.
This just in - Schlomo Leibowitz files suit after seeing the Star of David on his 6 Dollar Western Burger



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...;s_Jr_logo.jpg http://www.gatewaylinks.com/AHOE/tf-933.gif

Developing....

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-20-2005 03:11 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
This just in - Schlomo Leibowitz files suit after seeing the Star of David on his 6 Dollar Western Burger



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...;s_Jr_logo.jpg http://www.gatewaylinks.com/AHOE/tf-933.gif

Developing....
The more I look at these - they aren't even close. The one has 5 connected points - the other has 5 and 1.

If anything, to even suggest these are similar is MORE culturally insensitive.

I mean, is all squiggly writing suggestive of Hebrew? Is all Hewbrew writing the same?

SlaveNoMore 09-20-2005 03:12 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
This just in - Schlomo Leibowitz files suit after seeing the Star of David on his 6 Dollar Western Burger



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...;s_Jr_logo.jpg http://www.gatewaylinks.com/AHOE/tf-933.gif

Developing....
Update - Zhon Zhou crossclaims after seeing a McDonald's commercial which "desecrates the image of the Holy Buddha"

http://www.mariononline.com/saturday/grimace.jpg

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-20-2005 03:14 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Update - Zhon Zhou crossclaims after seeing a McDonald's commercial which "desecrates the image of the Holy Buddha"

http://www.mariononline.com/saturday/grimace.jpg
You monitor some interesting websites.

Penske_Account 09-20-2005 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
In that case, I guess the only morally appropriate action for you to take would be to enlist and offer to pay your own way to Iraq. That would reduce the federal tax burden.
How many times do we have to discuss this. I talked to enlistment. I am too old. And that was several years ago. I am mostly certain I have gotten older since that point in time.

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-20-2005 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
How many times do we have to discuss this. I talked to enlistment. I am too old. And that was several years ago. I am mostly certain I have gotten older since that point in time.
You could lie about your age. It's not like it's never been done. I'll bet you look young for your age!

futbol fan 09-20-2005 03:38 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
You monitor some interesting websites.
That's actually on his website, "SundaysInTheParkWithSlave.com" He's the one in the suit.

Shape Shifter 09-20-2005 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
How many times do we have to discuss this. I talked to enlistment. I am too old. And that was several years ago. I am mostly certain I have gotten older since that point in time.
Have you checked lately? They raised the maximum age.

http://www.military.com/MilitaryRepo...050328,00.html

You're not over 40, are you? bilmore?

Hank Chinaski 09-20-2005 03:45 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
That's actually on his website, "SundaysInTheParkWithSlave.com" He's the one in the suit.
http://www.shutterpoint.com/%2Fphoto...tered_thum.jpg

Shape Shifter 09-20-2005 03:46 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://www.shutterpoint.com/%2Fphoto...tered_thum.jpg
Why is that dog licking the Virgin Mary's vagina?

Hank Chinaski 09-20-2005 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Have you checked lately? They raised the maximum age.

http://www.military.com/MilitaryRepo...050328,00.html

You're not over 40, are you? bilmore?
He's 49. He told us last week to kill the Penske@50 knock-off.

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-20-2005 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
He's 49. He told us last week to kill the Penske@50 knock-off.
Well, that explains the pentagenarian crankiness.

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-20-2005 03:51 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Why is that dog licking the Virgin Mary's vagina?
It's okay - he's of the correct denomination.

sgtclub 09-20-2005 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Have you checked lately? They raised the maximum age.

http://www.military.com/MilitaryRepo...050328,00.html

You're not over 40, are you? bilmore?
JAG is still 35. I recently checked.

Sidd Finch 09-20-2005 04:13 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I bet his jihad would change course if BK could figure out a way ($$$$$) to compensate him for his mental anguish over seeing Allah's name on a non-dairy ice cream product.
Yeah, but then some other guy will claim that he found Allah's finger in the McSalad.

Sidd Finch 09-20-2005 04:16 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
This just in - Schlomo Leibowitz files suit after seeing the Star of David on his 6 Dollar Western Burger



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...;s_Jr_logo.jpg http://www.gatewaylinks.com/AHOE/tf-933.gif

Developing....

If Carl's Junior put a golden arch on their burger, they'd have a real jihad on their hands.

Sidd Finch 09-20-2005 04:20 PM

Islam- a Religion With Important Work to Do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
The more I look at these - they aren't even close. The one has 5 connected points - the other has 5 and 1.

If anything, to even suggest these are similar is MORE culturally insensitive.

I mean, is all squiggly writing suggestive of Hebrew? Is all Hewbrew writing the same?
OTOH, if some radical Jew really did take offense at the Carl's Jr. star, and call for a boycott, I'm sure Slave would be the first to advocate legislation prohibiting the boycott and requiring Jews to eat there. After all, what's free market capitalism if people are allowed to make consumer choices based on views that Slave (and most other sane people) considers stupid?

BK learned -- you sell to stupid people, you end up doing stupid things.

sgtclub 09-20-2005 04:21 PM

Just Keep Bradshaw Out of the West Wing
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...reg&id=2159013

[Lynn Swann contemplating run for PA Governor]

taxwonk 09-20-2005 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
How many times do we have to discuss this. I talked to enlistment. I am too old. And that was several years ago. I am mostly certain I have gotten older since that point in time.
I bet they'd let you go if you were paying your own way.

Hank Chinaski 09-20-2005 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
I bet they'd let you go if you were paying your own way.
All that would do is get him over the "too old" barrier, and to be considered. He would still have to pass the mental health component of the medical test.


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