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ltl/fb 05-04-2005 11:48 AM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
So Mrs. Panda, who's been working from home from the birth of the Littlest Panda (hereinafter "LP"), has had it with the boredom and her current employer in general, and is looking to reenter the work force outside the home. However, LP, who is about 15 mos., is just hitting her stride in exhibiting separation anxiety. If Mommy leaves the room, she's after her like they're linked with a rubber band. Babysitters have allowed Mommy to get things done during the week, but Mommy's never really been too far or too long out of sight. Going back into the workforce means daycare/nannyshare, either way Mommy's gonna be gone for most of the day. So we'll have to transition LP somehow so that she doesn't spend most of the day sitting on the floor at the local daycare bawling her adorable eyes out (oh, it hurts just to type that). Anybody done this? Probably we should have placed her in daycare earlier but we didn't...any ideas?
Uh, how long does the bawling the adorable eyes out last after Mommy's definitively gone? Possibly Mommy's reappearance at the onset of bawling just reinforces/extends the bawling . . .

In my extensive babysitting experience, the bawling rarely lasted more than 15 minutes after the parents left. But DO NOT come back shortly after you leave. It restarts the process.

Of course, for all I know, the bawling is a signal that the kid really needs the parent(s) there at that developmental stage for optimal psychological health.

Sexual Harassment Panda 05-04-2005 12:05 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Uh, how long does the bawling the adorable eyes out last after Mommy's definitively gone? Possibly Mommy's reappearance at the onset of bawling just reinforces/extends the bawling . . .

In my extensive babysitting experience, the bawling rarely lasted more than 15 minutes after the parents left. But DO NOT come back shortly after you leave. It restarts the process.
I honestly don't know. Our house is, as the real estate agents say, cozy, and she knows where Mommy is hiding. Perhaps if Mommy went out for a walk or run or shopping trip. On the plus side, on those occasions when Mommy has been out of the house for an extended period, she's been just fine with me, but really clingy the next day.

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Of course, for all I know, the bawling is a signal that the kid really needs the parent(s) there at that developmental stage for optimal psychological health.
Great.

ltl/fb 05-04-2005 12:07 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Great.
Recall that I not-so-secretly despise breeders. I was just fucking with you.

Sexual Harassment Panda 05-04-2005 12:19 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Recall that I not-so-secretly despise breeders. I was just fucking with you.
I gotta pay better attention.

ltl/fb 05-04-2005 12:22 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I gotta pay better attention.
It could be true, though.

Sexual Harassment Panda 05-04-2005 12:26 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
It could be true, though.
Too late. I'm wise to you now.

Flinty_McFlint 05-04-2005 01:25 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Recall that I not-so-secretly despise breeders. I was just fucking with you.
Hag.

Atticus Grinch 05-04-2005 01:26 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Of course, for all I know, the bawling is a signal that the kid really needs the parent(s) there at that developmental stage for optimal psychological health.
Even considering the proviso that you were just fucking with Panda, this is true in the sense that separation anxiety comes about at the same time that the kid gains confidence to control his/her distance from Mommy. It's fun to crawl around the corner, then peek back around. If Mommy's not there, HOLY SHIT IS THERE A PROBLEM. So in a sense being there bolsters confidence to take risks. Panda's seen this in the clinginess the day after a separation --- less assurance that Mommy is "always" there = less confidence and willingness to explore.

Still, there is such a thing as worrying too much about this. My parents didn't obsess about omnipresence or using babysitters, and I'm normal, except for the pretend Internet personality I use to work out my latent coprophobia issues.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-04-2005 01:31 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
latent coprophobia issues.
for a classicist, I would have expected greater familiarity with the -phobia/-philia distinction.

Flinty_McFlint 05-04-2005 01:31 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Still, there is such a thing as worrying too much about this. My parents didn't obsess about omnipresence or using babysitters, and I'm normal , except for the pretend Internet personality I use to work out my latent coprophobia issues.
Oh, this was funny. My, how I laughed and laughed.

Hank Chinaski 05-04-2005 01:34 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Even considering the proviso that you were just fucking with Panda, this is true in the sense that separation anxiety comes about at the same time that the kid gains confidence to control his/her distance from Mommy. It's fun to crawl around the corner, then peek back around. If Mommy's not there, HOLY SHIT IS THERE A PROBLEM. So in a sense being there bolsters confidence to take risks. Panda's seen this in the clinginess the day after a separation --- less assurance that Mommy is "always" there = less confidence and willingness to explore.

Still, there is such a thing as worrying too much about this. My parents didn't obsess about omnipresence or using babysitters, and I'm normal, except for the pretend Internet personality I use to work out my latent coprophobia issues.
I'll assume you haven't read It takes A Village. Of course, if you have you're just fucking with people with this post.

ltl/fb 05-04-2005 01:38 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I'm normal
Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sexual Harassment Panda 05-04-2005 01:49 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Even considering the proviso that you were just fucking with Panda, this is true in the sense that separation anxiety comes about at the same time that the kid gains confidence to control his/her distance from Mommy. It's fun to crawl around the corner, then peek back around. If Mommy's not there, HOLY SHIT IS THERE A PROBLEM. So in a sense being there bolsters confidence to take risks. Panda's seen this in the clinginess the day after a separation --- less assurance that Mommy is "always" there = less confidence and willingness to explore.

Still, there is such a thing as worrying too much about this. My parents didn't obsess about omnipresence or using babysitters, and I'm normal, except for the pretend Internet personality I use to work out my latent coprophobia issues.
Yes, I may be worrying too much. First and only kid. What can I say.

But mostly I was wondering - any suggestions how to transition LP to daycare?

Flinty_McFlint 05-04-2005 02:06 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Yes, I may be worrying too much. First and only kid. What can I say.

But mostly I was wondering - any suggestions how to transition LP to daycare?
My first is LP's age, and I'm just going to send her to daycare. She'll either adapt, or not. That's what the first kid is for--experimentation. We have a backup kid.

Atticus Grinch 05-04-2005 02:39 PM

Separation agitation
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
for a classicist, I would have expected greater familiarity with the -phobia/-philia distinction.
See, this is how paigow can slowly turn black into white. Obsession is not the same thing as love. Remember, I'm anti-bedshitting, but somehow my mythology got mixed up with MR's, and now I'm somehow regarded as coprophilic. Or -phagic. Not so.

The rest of y'all is whiffers.


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