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taxwonk 12-05-2008 10:24 PM
Re: Flooding in Venice.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 373244)
That's what A-rod is saying about Madonna.
I'm just sayin'...

taxwonk 12-05-2008 10:29 PM
Re: Flooding in Venice.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 373263)
limpy mclimp or whatever that sock's name is, he PM'd me once that he lost his virginity to this super smoking chick. did it five times in the first two days, then it was over.

I asked "you end it or did she."

he goes, "we had to stop. the pages she was on were all stuck together."

sometimes walking a mile in a man's shoes just makes you glad to be out of them, you know?
Wow. Suddenly I feel all insecure and shit.

Penske_Account 12-06-2008 06:25 PM
Re: Lawsuit of the Day
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtb (Post 373283)
However, with a dog who is not house trained, believe me, you'd rather he poo inside the house than pee. As long as the chunks are firm and well-formed.
Yes, but the chances on that are a crap shoot........

Hank Chinaski 12-07-2008 08:50 PM
milk
 
spoiler





so I saw this. wonderful film. I hate Sean Penn, yet cannot say a bad word about him in this.

Has anyone who has seen this know how accurate it was, like did someone else really sway Prop 6, and some of the other stuff.

if accurate the guy was a double amazing guy. i knew the skeleton of the story, and knew he had done some impressive things but there were things I hadn't known about-

Adder 12-07-2008 09:11 PM
Re: milk
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 373311)
spoiler





so I saw this. wonderful film. I hate Sean Penn, yet cannot say a bad word about him in this.

Has anyone who has seen this know how accurate it was, like did someone else really sway Prop 6, and some of the other stuff.

if accurate the guy was a double amazing guy. i knew the skeleton of the story, and knew he had done some impressive things but there were things I hadn't known about-

I left with the same questions. Excellent film though. Amazingly dramatic for a more or less true story, and highly educational for someone like me who too young to remember it.

Seems like a certain oscar nomination for Penn.

LessinSF 12-07-2008 10:36 PM
Re: milk
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 373311)
spoiler





so I saw this. wonderful film. I hate Sean Penn, yet cannot say a bad word about him in this.

Has anyone who has seen this know how accurate it was, like did someone else really sway Prop 6, and some of the other stuff.

if accurate the guy was a double amazing guy. i knew the skeleton of the story, and knew he had done some impressive things but there were things I hadn't known about-
I cannot find the link, but there was a story in the paper here about a reporter who watched the movie with one of Milk's friends/colleagues. This guy said that the events were dead-on, but personal portrayal was not. One example he gave was the scene where Milk is drunk. Apparently he was a teetotaller in real life.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-08-2008 12:52 AM
Re: milk
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 373314)
I cannot find the link, but there was a story in the paper here about a reporter who watched the movie with one of Milk's friends/colleagues. This guy said that the events were dead-on, but personal portrayal was not. One example he gave was the scene where Milk is drunk. Apparently he was a teetotaller in real life.
I have nothing against the use of "Queen Bitch" in the ads, as it is one of my favorite songs (BTW, the live '72 Bowie disc you can buy on Itunes now is simply fantastic). But wouldn't the Kennedys' version of "I Fought the Law" been so perfect?

Speaking of Itunes, I just picked up the new Metallica record there. I'd pretty much given up on that band after that unforgivable St. Anger record, but man, I'm glad I bought the new one. I forgot how tight that band can be when they play listenable songs. No Master of Puppets, but damn close.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-08-2008 12:54 AM
Re: milk
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder (Post 373312)
I left with the same questions. Excellent film though. Amazingly dramatic for a more or less true story, and highly educational for someone like me who too young to remember it.

Seems like a certain oscar nomination for Penn.
There's have to be a pile of serious, well-documented books about it. The story is too fucked up not to have been the subject of a bunch.

Adder 12-08-2008 01:20 AM
Re: milk
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 373316)
There's have to be a pile of serious, well-documented books about it. The story is too fucked up not to have been the subject of a bunch.
Yeah, I was thinking during the movie that I needed to read some. Amazing story.

Interesting to watch the film after the passage of prop 8 though. Changed the context significantly, although the film also reinforces the concept of losing the battle but winning the war.

Atticus Grinch 12-08-2008 01:38 AM
Re: milk
 
I was too young to remember it first hand -- I vaguely remember Jonestown and Moscone and White Nights but Milk was just someone else who died that week -- but there's gotta be something to the fact that Milk was always a sainted figure, but never was the MLK or Malcolm or RFK. I think at the end of the day people figured that SF becoming accepting enough to elect gay officials was inevitable, and they forget that gays were once second class citizens, even here.

ETA also it's important to consider that Milk was elected in the only district balloting for the Board of Supervisors prior to 2000 in which each supervisorial district elected its own supervisor. (After the assassination the new system was declared "too divisive" and they went back to at-large elections until 2000.) In that historical context, the idea that an openly gay man would win District 5's seat is no more remarkable than the idea that Harold Washington would carry the 8th Ward in 1977. Which doesn't diminish the accomplishment, but it does make it clear that while people considered it an historic moment, it was an intentional consequence of changing from at-large to district elections. I haven't seen the movie, but I suppose the storytelling will minimize the incremental accomplishments of the Alice B. Toklas Memorial Democratic Club, which could have put forward other people to win District 5 in 1977. Whether they might also have won will never be known.

Pretty Little Flower 12-08-2008 10:16 AM
Re: milk
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 373315)
I have nothing against the use of "Queen Bitch" in the ads, as it is one of my favorite songs (BTW, the live '72 Bowie disc you can buy on Itunes now is simply fantastic). But wouldn't the Kennedys' version of "I Fought the Law" been so perfect?

Speaking of Itunes, I just picked up the new Metallica record there. I'd pretty much given up on that band after that unforgivable St. Anger record, but man, I'm glad I bought the new one. I forgot how tight that band can be when they play listenable songs. No Master of Puppets, but damn close.
The DK's Fresh Fruit has a cover depicting the White Night riots. Did we discuss this here before? I am getting a weird sense of deja vu writing this, and I'm not even high.

I think.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-08-2008 10:40 AM
Re: milk
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 373323)
The DK's Fresh Fruit has a cover depicting the White Night riots. Did we discuss this here before? I am getting a weird sense of deja vu writing this, and I'm not even high.

I think.
I don't think so.

The discussing it here before thing, that is. On the high thing, you sound pretty baked.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-08-2008 10:42 AM
Re: milk
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder (Post 373317)
Yeah, I was thinking during the movie that I needed to read some. Amazing story.

Interesting to watch the film after the passage of prop 8 though. Changed the context significantly, although the film also reinforces the concept of losing the battle but winning the war.
I definitely have to see it after watching some of the extended trailer stuff with Brolin playing White. That guy's a hell of an actor. Exudes a really deep creepiness in those scenes.

1436 12-08-2008 11:26 AM
Re: Lawsuit of the Day
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 373259)
Which always reminds me of Spider Robinson's fantastic short story "Melancholy Elephants." http://www.baen.com/chapters/W200011/0671319744___1.htm
Thanks for sharing that.

Gattigap 12-08-2008 11:44 AM
Music, simplified.
 
Fifty Years of Popular Songs Condensed Into Single Sentences.

Samples:

Quote:
Carly Simon, "You're So Vain"

We used to do it, but then you did it with someone else, and now I'm not going to do it with you, although I wish we were still doing it.

- - - -

Pulp, "Common People"

I once met a stuck-up European who wanted to do it with me.

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Radiohead, "Creep"

I'm filled with self-loathing, and, though outwardly I hate everything you represent, I want to do it with you.

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Kate Bush, "Wuthering Heights"

I'm an 18th-century fictional character and I want to do it with another 18th-century fictional character.


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