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And you may certainly not suggest that I am availing myself of privileges at cost to another. That's accusing me of perpetuating a problem. As one who's never engaged in a discriminatory act, and has actually said some pretty coarse things to those I've witnessed doing so, and as somebody who finds the whole notion of discrmination based on criteria like race, sex, ethnicity, or sexuality utterly moronic and intellectually offensive, that's unwarranted. |
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People, what do we think about someone being this thick? |
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This is what I meant when I said "loaded" term. I'm guilty of availing myself of benefits at cost to another. I'll leave you, or someone else, to explain what they were, and how that was an intentional bad act on my part, and I guess your part, and also the part of everyone else who happens to fit into the "privileged" category. |
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I'm certainly Not Perfect, and I admit that I (like America) don't live up to my ideals. I'm working on it. |
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Maybe it was a small thing - like crossing the street out of concern for your safety upon encountering some young black men at night - but you'd truly be unique if you've completely escaped our racist culture. ETA: All any of us can do it be Not Bob. We're not perfect, but we're working on it. But you can't work on it if you can't admit you're not perfect. |
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Second, you think of privilege as something that is as easily measured as it would be in a one-off situation. "I got an extra donut that someone else didn't get today." That's not it. Privilege is about walking into an interview and knowing you will be judged by people who look like you based solely on your actual qualifications. Privilege is about calling the cops and having them (i) show up in a reasonable amount of time, (ii) automatically identify you as the victim upon arrival, (iii) empathizing with whatever problem you have, and (iv) knowing you won't be in danger. Privilege is being a defendant and having the jury make a decision on your guilt or innocence based solely on the fucking facts they've been presented. Privilege is about opening a magazine or turning on a tv and seeing a standard of beauty defined by Nordic features and not even noticing. Privilege is telling everyone that if they want your attention when it comes to talking about privilege, that they should figure out how to talk about it without hurting your feelings. Finally, stick your "don't judge me" complaint in your ass. I will judge you based on things you say every day, all day. There is no such thing as not judging someone. There is only not revealing that you're judging someone. So if you don't want to be judged negatively, don't say stupid shit. TM |
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I think you're assuming that the denominator here is the population of the USA, and that the numerator is whites. There's nothing magic about that denominator, and no particular reason to pick that single characteristic as the numerator -- obviously, you can talk about whatever fraction you want, but it's a choice, and for some reason it's important to you to use a framing that puts you in the majority and makes you the norm. If you insist on that, whatever, but then it's your choice to frame things in a way that makes "privilege" a semantic misstep. Why does it matter to you to be the norm? Quote:
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Ask yourself (not just Notbob) this: Who at your firm or company works on diversity issues? Is it a black woman? Is it a person of color? Who is trying to figure out how to increase the numbers of people of color who have access to firm decision-making? Why is it that diversity and inclusion issues ones that people of color and the lgbt community have to fight for? It's because white people look at it like it's not their problem to cure. When a white person stands up and says, "Wait a second, this is ridiculous. Let's do something about it." Applause. Amazement. Parties thrown. It's noteworthy. You know the best way to get white people to engage when it comes to diversity issues? Give them awards. You know how we get lgbt and people of color to engage? Ask them. That's privilege. TM |
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I named it for Fluffer because em brought a diversity of genders to the board with em's different socks. |
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Also, you just reminded me...we have a monthly 30 minute get-to-know-a-woman-partner session at the firm where the Woman's Initiative--seeking to give some exposure to women partners and helping the firm get a better understanding of the issues they face as women--interviews one of the women partners. You know who shows up? Women and minorities. TM |
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