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Sexual Harassment Panda 10-11-2004 09:19 PM

The October Surprise
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Dan Rather already ran a hatchet job.

Call it even.
Oh, I'm sure this flick, and its purveyor, will receive the same scrutiny that Rather's report was.

This is the same Sinclair Broadcasting Group that told its affiliates not to show the episode of Nightline earlier this year honoring the men and women of the US Armed Forces who were killed while serving in Iraq. At the time, their explanation was: "we do not believe such political statements should be disguised as news content."

Gattigap 10-11-2004 09:29 PM

The October Surprise
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041011/D85LDJ680.html

If this airs, it spells doom for Kerry.
As a side note, check out Sinclair's website with a listing of its stations. From a quick glance, I'm seeing a couple of random FOX and ABC affiliates, but a lot more of WB and UPN.

Maybe Sinclair's play to any FCC inquiry is not that the airing is either "political" or "news", but instead simply the opportunity to raise ratings for stations otherwise sentenced to air Celebrity Justice and Veronica Mars.

Gattigap 10-11-2004 09:38 PM

The October Surprise
 
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Originally posted by Not Me
looking for a defense of Kerry in what you post, but not finding it.
That's because club and I weren't discussing that. I understand that your conversational dial contains the settings --
  • Kerry = evil
  • Muslims = evil
  • Nimmer on Copyright, and
  • My Hoo-Ha, and related subjects
-- but every so often other topics crawl onto this board.

For that matter, a defense of Kerry was not what I responded to you about either, despite your efforts to drag the conversation there.

I was simply excited to hear that you'd bought the DVD and knew exactly what's in the movie. There's "no spin," remember? Any particular footage we should focus on?

SlaveNoMore 10-11-2004 09:44 PM

The October Surprise
 
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Sexual Harassment Panda
Oh, I'm sure this flick, and its purveyor, will receive the same scrutiny that Rather's report was.
Should Forrest Gump appear seated next to the young John Kerry while testifying before the Senate, then I think some scrutiny will be in order.

Otherwise, as they say, the thing "should speak for itself."

Replaced_Texan 10-11-2004 09:45 PM

The October Surprise
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
As a side note, check out Sinclair's website with a listing of its stations. From a quick glance, I'm seeing a couple of random FOX and ABC affiliates, but a lot more of WB and UPN.

Maybe Sinclair's play to any FCC inquiry is not that the airing is either "political" or "news", but instead simply the opportunity to raise ratings for stations otherwise sentenced to air Celebrity Justice and Veronica Mars.
This whole thing is sorta interesting to watch. Kos is linking to a "go after the advertisers" campaign and he's listed every major institutional investor of Sinclair. I don't know what the impact will be, but certainly the left is mobilized to hit back and prevent this from airing. I imagine there have been a lot of calls to the FCC as well. Sinclair's stock is down a bit today.

And the Astros are up 2-0 at the end of the 2nd. This is good.

ETA: Incidently, I've heard good things about Veronica Mars

Sexual Harassment Panda 10-11-2004 09:50 PM

The October Surprise
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Should Forrest Gump appear seated next to the young John Kerry while testifying before the Senate, then I think some scrutiny will be in order.

Otherwise, as they say, the thing "should speak for itself."
By all means, let us accept the truthfulness of any allegations contained in the movie without question.

Look over there! Look at the monkey!

Sexual Harassment Panda 10-11-2004 09:56 PM

The October Surprise
 
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
This whole thing is sorta interesting to watch. Kos has decided to start a "go after the advertisers" campaign. I don't know what the impact will be, but certainly the left is mobilized to hit back and prevent this from airing. I imagine there have been a lot of calls to the FCC as well. Sinclair's stock is down a bit today.
I disagree with this approach. It's unAmerican. Let it air - it'll be a great opportunity to also showcase the SBG's right-wing agenda. I imagine the film's makers also might bear some scrutiny.

Quote:

And the Astros are up 2-0 at the end of the 2nd. This is good.

ETA: Incidently, I've heard good things about Veronica Mars
2. But I haven't caught it yet.

SlaveNoMore 10-11-2004 10:07 PM

The October Surprise
 
Quote:

Sexual Harassment Panda
By all means, let us accept the truthfulness of any allegations contained in the movie without question.

Look over there! Look at the monkey!
Oh right. Sorry.

Anything portraying Kerry in a less-than-favorable light must, in fact, be false.

Hank Chinaski 10-11-2004 10:12 PM

The October Surprise
 
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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I know absolutely nothing about FCC regulations pertaining to broadcast TV transmissions, licenses regarding same, etc., but -- wouldn't this run afoul of the equal time requirement? Can Kerry force Sinclair to run "F9/11" in response?
I don't think equal time is in effect for news shows anymore. if it is 60 minutes will have to turn the keys over to Bush for the next 3 weeks.

Hank Chinaski 10-11-2004 10:15 PM

The October Surprise
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
That's because club and I weren't discussing that. I understand that your conversational dial contains the settings --
  • Kerry = evil
  • Muslims = evil
  • Nimmer on Copyright, and
  • My Hoo-Ha, and related subjects
-- but every so often other topics crawl onto this board.
actually sometimes i have the sense that notme doesn't consult nimmer. on the other hand, she does deserve more credit for her posts than you give. she drifts sometimes, but who amongst us does not?

Hank Chinaski 10-11-2004 10:17 PM

The October Surprise
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
As a side note, check out Sinclair's website with a listing of its stations. From a quick glance, I'm seeing a couple of random FOX and ABC affiliates, but a lot more of WB and UPN.

Maybe Sinclair's play to any FCC inquiry is not that the airing is either "political" or "news", but instead simply the opportunity to raise ratings for stations otherwise sentenced to air Celebrity Justice and Veronica Mars.
again, i believe if it is "news" it attracts an exception, but what I read about here is a simple history flick anyway. why the controversy?

Hank Chinaski 10-11-2004 10:18 PM

The October Surprise
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Should Forrest Gump appear seated next to the young John Kerry while testifying before the Senate, then I think some scrutiny will be in order.

Otherwise, as they say, the thing "should speak for itself."
i believe it, unless the film has some fingerprints of a digital recorder.

Gattigap 10-11-2004 10:23 PM

The October Surprise
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
ETA: Incidently, I've heard good things about Veronica Mars
Oh, OK. Amish in the City, then.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-11-2004 10:31 PM

Sa-Prize, Sa-Prize, Sa-Prize!
 
Sorry to interupt this love-fest for a movie no one's seen yet, but I'm sure at least some here will be interested that RealClearPolitics is now tracking the odds .

With "markets" all in one place, you guys should now have more time for posting paeons to the lastest Leni Riefenstahl epic. Have at it.

Hank Chinaski 10-11-2004 10:35 PM

Sa-Prize, Sa-Prize, Sa-Prize!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Sorry to interupt this love-fest for a movie no one's seen yet,
"movie" implies fiction. this is a documentary, you know like Mike makes.


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