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Originally posted by NotFromHere
Totally. I'm going to sue my orthopedic guy. When I asked him what I should do for my knee injury - he said "well, you could lose some weight." I said, "dude. seriously? I weigh like 114."

Per leg? or do you mean total. If you weigh 114 total you've no business calling other guys "girly."

ThurgreedMarshall

08-24-2005 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
It's not borderline. And the woman isn't the only ridiculous party. The board should have nipped this complaint in the bud rather than recommended a referral to the AG. They shouldn't even have sent the bullshit letter of concern, but that would at least have covered their pansy asses.

Maybe she controls the chocolate in their jurisdiction. You gotta read between the lines.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall

08-24-2005 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
What makes it more absurd is that this is part of the standard battery of advice doctors give. A couple of years ago my doctor told me to lose some weight based on my having a BMI of about 29, classified as obese. A lay person looking at me then would never have thought to call me fat, so it was a bit of a shock to be called not just overweight but obese. I didn't take offense. I lost the weight (current BMI less than 24. Yay!).

BMI doesn't mean shit. It's gotta be percentage of body fat that is meaningful. My BMI is 24.8 and I ain't fat or overweight.*

TM

*Shut up, Ironweed.

Replaced_Texan

08-24-2005 03:01 PM

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God fucking damnit. Crap like this pisses me off no end. It's a waste of Medical Board resources to follow up customer service related complaints. If the physician was competent in his evaluation and treatment of the patient, then there's no basis of complaint at all. Not being nice isn't reason to investigate. I've defended physicians in front of medical boards for pretty pissant stuff, but at least there was some medical basis for complaint in those cases.

sebastian_dangerfield

08-24-2005 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
BMI doesn't mean shit. It's gotta be percentage of body fat that is meaningful. My BMI is 24.8 and I ain't fat or overweight.*

TM

*Shut up, Ironweed.

Sure it doesn't.

Remember, males are barred from posting breasticles. Hank would never recover were he to discover he tcbed to your man boobs in a whiskey haze.

baltassoc

08-24-2005 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
BMI doesn't mean shit. It's gotta be percentage of body fat that is meaningful. My BMI is 24.8 and I ain't fat or overweight.*

TM

*Shut up, Ironweed.

BMI has a lot of problems, not the least of which is that it breaks down on the edges (it's not very accurate for short, and particularly, very tall people). It also fails to account for high muscle mass in people who are in very, very good shape.

It's easier to calculate than bodyfat percentage, however.

Regardless, the doctor was right, I needed to drop the weight. My point in citing the BMI was that I wasn't off the charts heavy when my doctor lectured me. At my size, the difference between "normal" and "obese" is only about 35 pounds, and the vast majority of people in the world would have even less leeway.

Pretty Little Flower

08-24-2005 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
BMI doesn't mean shit. It's gotta be percentage of body fat that is meaningful. My BMI is 24.8 and I ain't fat or overweight.*

TM

*Shut up, Ironweed.

Yeah, shut the fuck up Ironweak, you stupid little motherfucking piece of shit. Always running off at the motherfucking mouth, spouting some motherfucking shit. God motherfucking damn it, you really piss me off sometimes.

sebastian_dangerfield

08-24-2005 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
God fucking damnit. Crap like this pisses me off no end. It's a waste of Medical Board resources to follow up customer service related complaints. If the physician was competent in his evaluation and treatment of the patient, then there's no basis of complaint at all. Not being nice isn't reason to investigate. I've defended physicians in front of medical boards for pretty pissant stuff, but at least there was some medical basis for complaint in those cases.

As it is in defamation cases, truth should be an absolute defense against charges of unnecessarily harsh criticism.

“Dear _____:

It appears that you are obese, and therefore, Dr. _____’s statement was merely diagnostic No punitive action is warranted.

If you wish to appeal this board’s finding, please consult
www.amihotornot.com. A score above 7.0 will be considered a grant of appeal.”

futbol fan

08-24-2005 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Sure it doesn't.

Remember, males are barred from posting breasticles. Hank would never recover were he to discover he tcbed to your man boobs in a whiskey haze.

And we know Hank's into the sistahs.

I was told by one of my wife's co-workers that some cracker-ass cracker actually tried to pick her up in the Staten Island ferry terminal(!) by letting her know, about three sentences into their entirely one-sided conversation, that he was "you know, really into the sistahs and everything." I definitely plan to hit Halle with that line the next time I see her on the subway platform.

Pretty Little Flower

08-24-2005 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
BMI has a lot of problems, not the least of which is that it breaks down on the edges (it's not very accurate for short, and particularly, very tall people). It also fails to account for high muscle mass in people who are in very, very good shape.

It's easier to calculate than bodyfat percentage, however.

Regardless, the doctor was right, I needed to drop the weight. My point in citing the BMI was that I wasn't off the charts heavy when my doctor lectured me. At my size, the difference between "normal" and "obese" is only about 35 pounds, and the vast majority of people in the world would have even less leeway.

At my internet height of 6'4", I could be 152 pounds and still be on the lower end of the normal scale. If I weighed 152 pounds, they would put me on an IV.

pony_trekker

08-24-2005 03:18 PM

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Great, now another round of "frivolous lawsuit" fodder for the insurance companies to use when we are trying to pick a jury in a wrongful death case.

And NH has some of the fattest motherfuckers I ever did see.

pony_trekker

08-24-2005 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
I don't get the referral to the AG. For what? What the hell is she going to investigate? The doctor admitted what he said. The woman is either obese or not. What else needs to be investigated? And to what end?

What makes it more absurd is that this is part of the standard battery of advice doctors give. A couple of years ago my doctor told me to lose some weight based on my having a BMI of about 29, classified as obese. A lay person looking at me then would never have thought to call me fat, so it was a bit of a shock to be called not just overweight but obese. I didn't take offense. I lost the weight (current BMI less than 24. Yay!).

Couldn't he have qualified it with "You need to lose weight only if you want to be able to reach to wipe your butt."

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sebastian_dangerfield

08-24-2005 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
At my internet height of 6'4", I could be 152 pounds and still be on the lower end of the normal scale. If I weighed 152 pounds, they would put me on an IV.

Now I understand why Ironweed needs a stepstool to “tap that ass.”

Replaced_Texan

08-24-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
As it is in defamation cases, truth should be an absolute defense against charges of unnecessarily harsh criticism.

“Dear _____:

It appears that you are obese, and therefore, Dr. _____’s statement was merely diagnostic No punitive action is warranted.

If you wish to appeal this board’s finding, please consult
www.amihotornot.com. A score above 7.0 will be considered a grant of appeal.”

Friend of mine was described by another friend of mine as being "obese with pendulant breasts." In writing, no less!

She was partially offended, but really couldn't complain too much because it was a description in her medical record by her cardiologist right before (or after, I can't remember when he wrote it) she had a heart valve replaced. It was an accurate statement that was relevant to her diagnosis and treatment.

I do HIPAA lectures from time to time for healthcare professionals, and under HIPAA, patients have a right to request an amendment to their medical record. I use this anecdote all the time as an example of when health professionals can politely tell patients to fuck off on the amendment request. The patient is more than welcome to put a statement disputing the record, but the record is going to continue to say that she is "obese with pendulant breasts."

Pretty Little Flower

08-24-2005 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
And we know Hank's into the sistahs.

I was told by one of my wife's co-workers that some cracker-ass cracker actually tried to pick her up in the Staten Island ferry terminal(!) by letting her know . . . .

Now this is some helpful punctuation. In case I could not figure it out on my own, reading this left no doubt in my mind that I am to respond: "No way! He tried to pick her up in the SI ferry terminal!?!?!?!"

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