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Penske_Account 08-08-2006 10:11 PM

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Penske_Account 08-08-2006 10:14 PM

Go Hank, go!
 
U.S. Representative, District 4 -GA
Democrat
35% of precincts reporting Votes Percentage

Henry C. "Hank" Johnson, Jr. 11,295 61.5%
Cynthia McKinney 7,073 38.5%

Tyrone Slothrop 08-08-2006 10:15 PM

Go Hank, go!
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
U.S. Representative, District 4 -GA
Democrat
35% of precincts reporting Votes Percentage

Henry C. "Hank" Johnson, Jr. 11,295 61.5%
Cynthia McKinney 7,073 38.5%
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Sidd Finch 08-08-2006 10:18 PM

Go Hank, go!
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
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Penske_Account 08-08-2006 10:20 PM

Go Hank, go!
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
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It's not even worth posting a link, trust me or go to Drudge, but a Mckinney staffer assaulted a television news cameraman today outside a polling place.

See Sidd, this is what I mean, the apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

Penske_Account 08-08-2006 10:24 PM

Say it ain't so, Joe
 
Well, looks like it will be about a 3% margin. Certainly, we can all agree which way it was trending, and who knows, maybe the shenanigans regarding the website cost Lieberman that 3%. If so, I hope Lamont is proud of his people and his ill gotten victoury. Although for a guy wiht a commie sympathiser for an Uncle, I am sure this a proud moment much as in the tradition of most of the elections in the communist world.

All I can say at this point is, let the games begin. I'm teeing up my absentee ballot for the "I" candidate, but who knows, the big winner here could be the Republicans. Either way it will be fun to watch the democrat party eat itself alive over this race for another 3 months.

Penske_Account 08-08-2006 10:27 PM

Keep prayin
 
U.S. Representative, District 4
Democrat
51% of precincts reporting Votes Percentage

Henry C. "Hank" Johnson, Jr. 17,947 58.1%
Cynthia McKinney 12,945 41.9%

Tyrone Slothrop 08-08-2006 10:33 PM

Say it ain't so, Joe
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Well, looks like it will be about a 3% margin. Certainly, we can all agree which way it was trending, and who knows, maybe the shenanigans regarding the website cost Lieberman that 3%.
That is the stupidest thing you've posted all day, and that's saying a lot.

There is speculation that Lieberman was setting up a "the hackers cost me the election" line to justify running as an independent.

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If so, I hope Lamont is proud of his people and his ill gotten victoury.
Cite, please.

Penske_Account 08-08-2006 10:41 PM

Say it ain't so, Joe
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
That is the stupidest thing you've posted all day, and that's saying a lot.

There is speculation that Lieberman was setting up a "the hackers cost me the election" line to justify running as an independent.
If my post is stupid, then your second sentence above is correspondingly stupid. You can't have it both ways. There is either some legitimacy to the claim or there's not. If professional campaigners are going to make the claim then I feel justified. They know more about the game than you or me. Who knows how important the website was to the election day GOTV. I don't know how those operations run, anymore, and my experience was from pre-interweb days. Do you know as a matter of fact, that the campaign was not using the website as a tool in its GOTV work?

If so, cite please.



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If so, I hope Lamont is proud of his people and his ill gotten victoury.
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Cite, please.
This makes no sense, you want a cite to my hope that is based on a conditional fact assumption, that by the "if" I used in my post, I am acknowledging may or may not be true?

Tyrone Slothrop 08-08-2006 10:48 PM

Say it ain't so, Joe
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
If my post is stupid, then your second sentence above is correspondingly stupid. You can't have it both ways. There is either some legitimacy to the claim or there's not. If professional campaigners are going to make the claim then I feel justified. They know more about the game than you or me. Who knows how important the website was to the election day GOTV. I don't know how those operations run, anymore, and my experience was from pre-interweb days. Do you know as a matter of fact, that the campaign was not using the website as a tool in its GOTV work?

If so, cite please.
As you know, I have a close relative who is working on a campaign. I am reliably informed that the website is not important to election day GOTV. E-mail, maybe moreso, but certainly not to the tune of 3%.

Since we're on the subject, I will add that you do not have to look very hard to find blogs questioning the web-hosting service that the Lieberman campaign chose. Low-end, and not likely able to handle the sort of traffic you would see in these circumstances. Also not likely to be able to tell the Lieberman folks what caused their problems today. Am happy to provide cites if you will promise to read them.

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This makes no sense, you want a cite to my hope that is based on a conditional fact assumption, that by the "if" I used in my post, I am acknowledging may or may not be true?
Cite for the notion that Lamont's victory is somehow ill-gotten. I took this as a suggestion on your part (again) that he had cheated, notwithstanding the admission today by the Lieberman folks that they had no evidence of this.

Penske_Account 08-08-2006 10:54 PM

Prediction time
 
Assume Lieberman loses the primary.

Also assume that he runs as an independent, which given the margin of loss tonight and the lack of any viable R candidate, he would nuts not to do, the seat is his to keep.

When he wins, who does he caucus with?

Based on (i) the continuing violence in the ME (ii) and relatredly, continued threats to Israel's existence from Hezbollah and Iran, (iii) and relatedly Iran's nukes that it has and tests (on August 22) and (iv) the continued flirtation of the democrat party with anti-Israel anti-semitic pro-Euro/ME terrorists' positions; I go out on a limb here and now and predict Joltin Joe will caucus with the Rs.

Who has the guts to go on record with me!?!?!

Also, of note, once Lieberman turns I, he is no longer a D, and thus the Senate will be 55-43-2. Ouch.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-08-2006 10:56 PM

Prediction time
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Assume Lieberman loses the primary.

Also assume that he runs as an independent, which given the margin of loss tonight and the lack of any viable R candidate, he would nuts not to do, the seat is his to keep.

When he wins, who does he caucus with?

Based on (i) the continuing violence in the ME (ii) and relatredly, continued threats to Israel's existence from Hezbollah and Iran, (iii) and relatedly Iran's nukes that it has and tests (on August 22) and (iv) the continued flirtation of the democrat party with anti-Israel anti-semitic pro-Euro/ME terrorists' positions; I go out on a limb here and now and predict Joltin Joe will caucus with the Rs.

Who has the guts to go on record with me!?!?!

Also, of note, once Lieberman turns I, he is no longer a D, and thus the Senate will be 55-43-2. Ouch.
If Lieberman loses the primary, there will be a lot of pressure on him from mainstream Democrats -- those who campaigned for him -- to drop out. Bill Clinton, e.g. His money may dry up. He'll look a lot worse coming off a loss. So I think it's presumptious to say that the race is his to lose. I would be surprised if he stays in, though stranger things have happened.

Penske_Account 08-08-2006 10:58 PM

Say it ain't so, Joe
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
As you know, I have a close relative who is working on a campaign. I am reliably informed that the website is not important to election day GOTV. E-mail, maybe moreso, but certainly not to the tune of 3%.

Since we're on the subject, I will add that you do not have to look very hard to find blogs questioning the web-hosting service that the Lieberman campaign chose. Low-end, and not likely able to handle the sort of traffic you would see in these circumstances. Also not likely to be able to tell the Lieberman folks what caused their problems today. Am happy to provide cites if you will promise to read them.

I am not conceding anything, but I do know your sources of campaign info are better, so I'll trust that your assertions are honestly made.

:D

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop


Cite for the notion that Lamont's victory is somehow ill-gotten. I took this as a suggestion on your part (again) that he had cheated, notwithstanding the admission today by the Lieberman folks that they had no evidence of this.

I said "if" he cheated, "if", then I hope he is happy with his ill gotten gains. If he didn't cheat, then g-d speed to him, but Lieberman still has the Joe-Mentum for the general election.

Penske_Account 08-08-2006 11:02 PM

Prediction time
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If Lieberman loses the primary, there will be a lot of pressure on him from mainstream Democrats -- those who campaigned for him -- to drop out. Bill Clinton, e.g. His money may dry up. He'll look a lot worse coming off a loss. So I think it's presumptious to say that the race is his to lose. I would be surprised if he stays in, though stranger things have happened.
Word on the street is that moderate/liberal Republican money is already lining up behind him. Remember this is the state of Lowell Weicker (and the current governor is closer to teh D side than naught, and I have some first hand experience on that score).

Penske_Account 08-08-2006 11:14 PM

Good news
 
U.S. Representative, District 4
Democrat

89% of precincts reporting Votes Percentage

Henry C. "Hank" Johnson, Jr. 36,853 58.9%
Cynthia McKinney 25,683 41.1%


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