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taxwonk 04-18-2009 08:28 PM

Re: A fashion board in which sometimes we'll remember to post spoiler warnings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 387485)
I believe you are the first, besides Wonk, to have pulled off the rare double whiff.
congrats?


You've done a double whiff on me at least twice.

Jack Manfred 04-18-2009 09:08 PM

Re: Okay, I need an explanation.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 387453)
I want the judge to look at our situation and say, "Here's what makes sense," not, "Well, you knew, as the high-wage earner marrying a low-wage earner, that you would get fucked if you ever got divorced when you entered into this marriage, so bend over." That's stupid.

Not as stupid as being the high-wage earner, knowing that half of marriages end on divorce, knowing that you would get fucked if you ever got a divorce, knowing that there was a document that could protect you from that fucking, and choosing not to have such a document drafted and signed.

If you have assets or are a high-wage earner and especially if you are a man, and you don't get a prenup, you shouldn't be surprised when courts follow the presumptions in the law that are not in your favor and act on the biases that are not to your benefit.

You want the judge to do "what makes sense." It's like you're not even a lawyer when you write things like that. People in Hell want ice water. Everyone wants the judge deciding their case to do "what makes sense." The problem is that both sides coming before a judge often have diametrically-opposed views about "what makes sense."

I want the judge to send the defendant to prison. That makes sense to me. The defense attorney wants the judge to grant probation, or to give a misdemeanor, or to grant a dismissal. Em thinks that makes sense. If only there was some way I could protect myself from a judge who doesn't make sensible rulings. If only I could make an agreement before going to court where I could set forth what I wanted, what I needed on a particular case.

A higher percentage of criminal cases end in pleas than marriages end in divorce, but the analogy still stands.

Shape Shifter 04-18-2009 10:26 PM

Re: A fashion board in which sometimes we'll remember to post spoiler warnings
 
Stop making sense.

LessinSF 04-18-2009 10:33 PM

Re: And your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 387493)
Less, do you see my point now?

No. I am thick as a brick.

Hank Chinaski 04-18-2009 10:53 PM

Re: A fashion board in which sometimes we'll remember to post spoiler warnings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 387495)
You've done a double whiff on me at least twice.

water

Hank Chinaski 04-18-2009 10:57 PM

Re: Okay, I need an explanation.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Manfred (Post 387496)
Not as stupid as being the high-wage earner, knowing that half of marriages end on divorce, knowing that you would get fucked if you ever got a divorce, knowing that there was a document that could protect you from that fucking, and choosing not to have such a document drafted and signed.

If you have assets or are a high-wage earner and especially if you are a man, and you don't get a prenup, you shouldn't be surprised when courts follow the presumptions in the law that are not in your favor and act on the biases that are not to your benefit.

You want the judge to do "what makes sense." It's like you're not even a lawyer when you write things like that. People in Hell want ice water. Everyone wants the judge deciding their case to do "what makes sense." The problem is that both sides coming before a judge often have diametrically-opposed views about "what makes sense."

I want the judge to send the defendant to prison. That makes sense to me. The defense attorney wants the judge to grant probation, or to give a misdemeanor, or to grant a dismissal. Em thinks that makes sense. If only there was some way I could protect myself from a judge who doesn't make sensible rulings. If only I could make an agreement before going to court where I could set forth what I wanted, what I needed on a particular case.

A higher percentage of criminal cases end in pleas than marriages end in divorce, but the analogy still stands.

A prenup? sure, I'll sign it.
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sunnybunny 04-20-2009 04:54 AM

I miss chris
 
just returned from a trip abroad (jetlag anyone) and have to say every european airport la parla boutique made me a little misty eyed missing chris's reverence for la perla and criticism of disco mitts.

Carry on

Fugee 04-20-2009 10:12 AM

Almost a candidate for a Darwin Award
 
Guy who pretends to fall from bridge actually falls from bridge

http://www.startribune.com/local/sou...nDaycUiacyKUUr

greatwhitenorthchick 04-20-2009 10:33 AM

Re: Okay, I need an explanation.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Manfred (Post 387496)
Not as stupid as being the high-wage earner, knowing that half of marriages end on divorce, knowing that you would get fucked if you ever got a divorce, knowing that there was a document that could protect you from that fucking, and choosing not to have such a document drafted and signed.

If you have assets or are a high-wage earner and especially if you are a man, and you don't get a prenup, you shouldn't be surprised when courts follow the presumptions in the law that are not in your favor and act on the biases that are not to your benefit.

You want the judge to do "what makes sense." It's like you're not even a lawyer when you write things like that. People in Hell want ice water. Everyone wants the judge deciding their case to do "what makes sense." The problem is that both sides coming before a judge often have diametrically-opposed views about "what makes sense."

I want the judge to send the defendant to prison. That makes sense to me. The defense attorney wants the judge to grant probation, or to give a misdemeanor, or to grant a dismissal. Em thinks that makes sense. If only there was some way I could protect myself from a judge who doesn't make sensible rulings. If only I could make an agreement before going to court where I could set forth what I wanted, what I needed on a particular case.

A higher percentage of criminal cases end in pleas than marriages end in divorce, but the analogy still stands.

I have not been keeping up with this interminable thread, but Jack's post makes sense.

Pretty Little Flower 04-20-2009 11:20 AM

Re: Okay, I need an explanation.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 387528)
I have not been keeping up with this interminable thread, but Jack's post makes sense.

Even the part where he says that it is like Thurgreed is not even a lawyer?

ThurgreedMarshall 04-20-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Okay, I need an explanation.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtb (Post 387466)
First of all, your second sentence is completely wrong and I have no idea why you would assert such a thing.

Good grief. Clearly I was exaggerating. You have to be kidding me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtb (Post 387466)
Second of all, those who have sacrificed their educational opportunities and/or careers, as a general rule, have done so for the sake of the entire family, not just the children. As Ty said, these are generally decisions made by mutual agreement, not fiat. So, once the high-wage earner has had enough, and the low-wage earner has foregone employment/educational opportunities, it's just "tough luck toots?" Nice.

I don't know where you're getting this from. I've already conceded (many times) the fact that if you have given up opportunities for the sake of the family, that should be taken into account. Again, what I'm focused on are the many situations where that isn't the case.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 04-20-2009 11:26 AM

Re: Okay, I need an explanation.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 387470)
No it's not. Children is one of the factors to consider for child support in New York.

Exactly, you dolt. No one is talking about child support. What board are you reading?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 387470)
Hey, I'm just suggesting a reason why the laws are they way they are. Maybe the legislators wish they had the bucks to trade in their old wives for a young model and want to punish the rich guys who can. :confused:

Right. Brilliant analysis.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 387470)
You missed my point. You had mentioned guys who know whose ex-wives see more of their paychecks than they do. Rather than assume those guys got hosed by the system and their ex-wives, I'm saying I'm skeptical and wondering how much of that money is for their kids and not the ex-wife. I haven't heard a real life specific example (other than the Mel Gibson divorce and we all know she's not going to get spousal support if she gets $450mm) to consider whether there really are as many unfair spousal support awards as you seem to think there are.**

Ohhhhh. That was your point--that I don't really know the situation my friends are in. Got it. Jesus.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 04-20-2009 11:27 AM

Re: A fashion board in which sometimes we'll remember to post spoiler warnings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 387476)
Having sworn I'd never wear Jos. A. Banks clothes, I see that they're selling suits 3-for-1 tomorrow. I could use a few new suits, and I'm not made of money. Can anyone recommend their suits, or is my gut right that that would just be a mistake?

Mistake.

TM

Did you just call me Coltrane? 04-20-2009 11:36 AM

Re: A fashion board in which sometimes we'll remember to post spoiler warnings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shape shifter (Post 387486)
their cheap suits wear like cheap suits. Their pricier suits are nice. You get what you pay for.

2.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-20-2009 11:36 AM

Sorry to interrupt...
 
In news wholly unrelated to divorces, scotch, Jethro Tull, or TM's lawyering ability, we got two new puppies this weekend.

They are robust, playful, and cute as hell.


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