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Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-07-2018 04:00 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 514984)
These people aren't rich. That pool has to be covered manually. Fake news.

I think that place looks great and I don't even like pools. Or, as we call them back home, ce-ment ponds.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-07-2018 04:00 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 514988)
People are more protective of their property values than almost anything else in their world. Even ridiculously rich people.

If you live in a city, however, part of the price for being close to everything you need, and all the other advantages of living in a city, is being part of the melting pot (in terms of both people around you and commercial and public property mixed very closely with residential).

The St. Louis people sound like they want to live in suburbs within the city.

(Why anyone would want to live anywhere in St. Louis is another story entirely...)

You just took race completely out of the equation. Did you mean to, or was it unconscious?

Hank Chinaski 05-07-2018 04:03 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 514980)
We all probably know this, but legend has it that the DC Metro does not go to Georgetown for this reason. Locally, a suburban city council numbskull said as much about an extension of our light rail too and certainly some of the riff raff thinks that way, but the main drivers that may prevent that getting done are a bit broader (i.e., trains cost too much and why should the metro area get all that money that I'm not going to admit comes from them anyway).

DC Metro was first tourist paths, and then expanded to where people (especially poor people) live. When i lived there lots of the higher end parts of NW had no subway, but i thought a lot of that had been corrected with the expansion. I guess I assumed GTown had something to do with the earth there? there is a reason Rosslyn has the longest escalator. But Foggy Bottom is a long way away.

ThurgreedMarshall 05-07-2018 04:04 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 514988)
(Why anyone would want to live anywhere in St. Louis is another story entirely...)

(Me either and I have family there.)

TM

sebastian_dangerfield 05-07-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 514983)
I am continually amazed more people aren't shocked by the stories out of Ferguson.

The President's porn star mistress just did the cold open for SNL this weekend.

A "Best of the Beheadings, 2010-2018" video compilation would run longer than Star Wars.

Spring no longer exists. (And I'm still not sure Syracuse won't get one more 6 inch snowfall before Summer.)

Ya think we're a little desensitized... to everything???

Hank Chinaski 05-07-2018 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 514984)
These people aren't rich. That pool has to be covered manually. Fake news.

Dude, you don't know from rich. Real rich have a pool boy, who would cover the pool. You can tell these folks don't have a pool boy by the robo-vacuum. Who will your trophy wife second wife cheat with if you don't have a pool boy? That's right, your best friend, and you don't want that.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-07-2018 04:11 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 514990)
You just took race completely out of the equation. Did you mean to, or was it unconscious?

Do you need me to say, explicitly, "To affluent whites, blacks = lower property value"?

This isn't White Club. I can say it. But did I need to? I mean, it's fucking St. Louis, for Christ's sake.

ETA: To "southern" affluent whites. But also a lot of northern affluent whites (just much less overtly). And a lot of otherwise tolerant ones. You'd be surprised how that surgeon you know who supports gay marriage feels about the non-white neighborhood encroaching on his place.

Hank Chinaski 05-07-2018 04:14 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 514988)
People are more protective of their property values than almost anything else in their world. Even ridiculously rich people.

The first one of my peers who became somewhat financially free (for at least a few years) bought an Alexandria home for a reasonably low price 5 years before the yellow/blue line expanded to King Street. his house was two blocks from the Braddock Road station- once it opened the house doubled in value. fighting subways near your house just confuses NY'ers, like T, or me, because "no subway anywhere near" means "much lower rent."

sebastian_dangerfield 05-07-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 514992)
(Me either and I have family there.)

TM

I don't do the Bible Belt. At all.

And I'm open about it. I don't think that culture is charming, the weather is awful, and I don't like any man over 50 who calls his father "Daddy." (That last category is stolen from Carlin.)

I also don't like being served. It creeps me out when people tell me about these freakshow resorts in the South where they get ridiculous "service." I don't need a guy to grind the mint for a julep at the table. I don't want the guy with my luggage to address me as Colonel. And I don't care about horse races.

Keep your antebellum "charms" to yourself.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-07-2018 04:41 PM

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcnIGsTW0AAqqBW.jpg

"Tell me about zoning."

Tyrone Slothrop 05-07-2018 04:43 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 514995)
Do you need me to say, explicitly, "To affluent whites, blacks = lower property value"?

This isn't White Club. I can say it. But did I need to? I mean, it's fucking St. Louis, for Christ's sake.

ETA: To "southern" affluent whites. But also a lot of northern affluent whites (just much less overtly). And a lot of otherwise tolerant ones. You'd be surprised how that surgeon you know who supports gay marriage feels about the non-white neighborhood encroaching on his place.

If you think that race comes into this only as a function of economics, you are Marxist, clueless, or both. I don't think you're either. I think you're telling a story that explains away some really ugly history by suggesting that it's only about property owners trying to preserve the value of their property. Sure, just like that is all that slavery was about.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-07-2018 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 514999)
If you think that race comes into this only as a function of economics, you are Marxist, clueless, or both. I don't think you're either. I think you're telling a story that explains away some really ugly history by suggesting that it's only about property owners trying to preserve the value of their property. Sure, just like that is all that slavery was about.

No I'm not. St. Louis is a racist city. But if you don't see how hating blacks and blaming them for lowering your property value fuel each other, and are inextricably intertwined, I'd have to say you're clueless.

Up here in Yankee territory, it's a little easier to separate the economics from the racism. The bigotry is convenient, as in, "My property value is dropping because of those Puerto Ricans... I'm not sure I like them very much anymore. I mean, I still like them in the abstract. But I don't like them when they cost me money. I now feel entitled to generalize about them."

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-07-2018 04:52 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 514989)
I think that place looks great and I don't even like pools. Or, as we call them back home, ce-ment ponds.

I prefer my pools with nihlists. They believe in nothing.

https://i.imgur.com/X6fqrHq.gif

Ah, that must exhausting.

Adder 05-07-2018 04:59 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 514986)
As I have posted here before, that is a myth.

There's a reason I said "legend."

I don't understand the second reason given in that blog post, about tunneling under private property, because they did that all over the place, but I don't care enough to go and read the actual book.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-07-2018 05:15 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 515002)
There's a reason I said "legend."

I don't understand the second reason given in that blog post, about tunneling under private property, because they did that all over the place, but I don't care enough to go and read the actual book.

The most common way to dig those tunnels has been to dig a big trench that you then cover over. See a more recent discussion of the issue here.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-07-2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 514998)

Khaled is a fool.

ThurgreedMarshall 05-07-2018 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 514987)
She's 21, the headquarters is just south of Times Square but she is going to be dispatched to job sites around the city (likely a lot of bridge work), and I think we're figuring it'll cost about 2K a month give or take, but are open to being told we're wrong.

$2k seems very low. The dorm route might work well.

Hell, even places a few stops away on the Metro North might be a good option.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 05-07-2018 05:55 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 514997)
I don't do the Bible Belt. At all.

And I'm open about it. I don't think that culture is charming, the weather is awful, and I don't like any man over 50 who calls his father "Daddy." (That last category is stolen from Carlin.)

I also don't like being served. It creeps me out when people tell me about these freakshow resorts in the South where they get ridiculous "service." I don't need a guy to grind the mint for a julep at the table. I don't want the guy with my luggage to address me as Colonel. And I don't care about horse races.

Keep your antebellum "charms" to yourself.

Missouri ain't what you're considering the Bible Belt. And St. Louis sure as hell isn't. Based on what you said, I had to look it up and I guess technically it qualifies. But it ain't reality. Missouri is just fucking crazy.

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-07-2018 05:57 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 515005)
$2k seems very low. The dorm route might work well.

Hell, even places a few stops away on the Metro North might be a good option.

TM

ok, raising expectation to 3K a month - so about 10K for the summer.

If it gets much beyond that, she may have to stay with a Trumpie family member in Jersey.

Hank Chinaski 05-07-2018 05:59 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515003)
The most common way to dig those tunnels has been to dig a big trench that you then cover over. See a more recent discussion of the issue here.

Am i on ignore?

Hank Chinaski 05-07-2018 06:02 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 515007)
ok, raising expectation to 3K a month - so about 10K for the summer.

If it gets much beyond that, she may have to stay with a Trumpie family member in Jersey.

There is a strange student dorm right at the Clark subway. It would actually be a great location- near Dumbo and many other cool Bk locations. IN the Heights, technically, but it seems on its own. I don't think it is tied to any one school.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-07-2018 06:44 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 515008)
Am i on ignore?

I guess so, because I don't recall what you said about this.

Hank Chinaski 05-07-2018 07:07 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515010)
I guess so, because I don't recall what you said about this.

QED DC Metro was first tourist paths, and then expanded to where people (especially poor people) live. When i lived there lots of the higher end parts of NW had no subway, but i thought a lot of that had been corrected with the expansion. I guess I assumed GTown had something to do with the earth there? there is a reason Rosslyn has the longest escalator. But Foggy Bottom is a long way away.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-07-2018 07:10 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 515011)
QED DC Metro was first tourist paths, and then expanded to where people (especially poor people) live. When i lived there lots of the higher end parts of NW had no subway, but i thought a lot of that had been corrected with the expansion. I guess I assumed GTown had something to do with the earth there? there is a reason Rosslyn has the longest escalator. But Foggy Bottom is a long way away.

Off my corner, ho.

Hank Chinaski 05-07-2018 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515012)

I was riding Metro when you was still sucking at your mamma's titty.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-07-2018 07:33 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 515013)
I was riding Metro when you was still sucking at your mamma's titty.

I am pretty sure I lived there before you ever did, and the post I just linked was before yours too.

Hank Chinaski 05-07-2018 07:33 PM

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Hank Chinaski 05-07-2018 08:27 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 514986)
As I have posted here before, that is a myth.

Has Mr. Alpert written much about Georgetown restaurants he likes?

Hank Chinaski 05-07-2018 08:28 PM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515014)
I am pretty sure I lived there before you ever did, and the post I just linked was before yours too.

I don't like to talk about it, but in 72 I was there to get a Medal of Honor from Nixon for some black ops I did in Cambodia.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-08-2018 08:44 AM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 515006)
Missouri ain't what you're considering the Bible Belt. And St. Louis sure as hell isn't. Based on what you said, I had to look it up and I guess technically it qualifies. But it ain't reality. Missouri is just fucking crazy.

TM

It's part of that continuum of backward, culturally and racially segregated states through the lower-mid-section of the country. Draw a line from SW Maryland to Little Rock, and include 500 miles north and south of it (including all of AL, MS, and the FL panhandle). I've no use for any of its "charms."

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-08-2018 09:55 AM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 515009)
There is a strange student dorm right at the Clark subway. It would actually be a great location- near Dumbo and many other cool Bk locations. IN the Heights, technically, but it seems on its own. I don't think it is tied to any one school.

That looks like an NYU dorm - it looks like she will likely stay in an NYU dorm, but it's not clear that one is among the ones that still have room left.

The tough thing is she's going to be doing site work, but won't find out her sites until she arrives. So she could end up working in Hudson Yards or she could end up on a project out near JFK.

ThurgreedMarshall 05-08-2018 10:37 AM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 515019)
That looks like an NYU dorm - it looks like she will likely stay in an NYU dorm, but it's not clear that one is among the ones that still have room left.

The tough thing is she's going to be doing site work, but won't find out her sites until she arrives. So she could end up working in Hudson Yards or she could end up on a project out near JFK.

http://www.pace.edu/housing/nyc/appl...summer-housing

http://housing.columbia.edu/intern-summer-housing

http://www.sva.edu/students/housing/...summer-housing

https://www.newschool.edu/student-housing/summer/

http://www.fitnyc.edu/residential-li...mmer/index.php

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-08-2018 10:54 AM

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Thanks!

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-08-2018 11:00 AM

Re: The wrong question
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 515017)
I don't like to talk about it, but in 72 I was there to get a Medal of Honor from Nixon for some black ops I did in Cambodia.

To be fair, if Georgetown were going to block a metro stop, they'd use black ops and their fingerprints would not be on it.

Not Bob 05-08-2018 11:36 AM

Show me the way to the next whiskey bar.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515018)
It's part of that continuum of backward, culturally and racially segregated states through the lower-mid-section of the country. Draw a line from SW Maryland to Little Rock, and include 500 miles north and south of it (including all of AL, MS, and the FL panhandle). I've no use for any of its "charms."

Bourbon.

ThurgreedMarshall 05-08-2018 11:55 AM

Iran
 
We have the dumbest possible person running this country. I would rather have my coffee cart guy as President. Trump is a complete moron who has absolutely no idea what he's doing. He's a joke. And by extension, so are we.

Jesus fucking Christ.

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-08-2018 12:03 PM

Re: Show me the way to the next whiskey bar.
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 515023)
Bourbon.

Scotch.

Not Bob 05-08-2018 12:24 PM

Re: Show me the way to the next whiskey bar.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 515025)
Scotch.

You may prefer Scotch to bourbon, but Scotch isn’t one of the charms of the South that Sebby has no use for.

Hank Chinaski 05-08-2018 12:32 PM

Re: Iran
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 515024)
We have the dumbest possible person running this country. I would rather have my coffee cart guy as President. Trump is a complete moron who has absolutely no idea what he's doing. He's a joke. And by extension, so are we.

Jesus fucking Christ.

TM

Next Board Motto! (although we might not be to the next 5000 before we get a new prez?)

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-08-2018 12:41 PM

Re: Show me the way to the next whiskey bar.
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 515026)
You may prefer Scotch to bourbon, but Scotch isn’t one of the charms of the South that Sebby has no use for.

Just pointing out bourbon is a second-rate charm.


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