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tmdiva 04-08-2003 02:58 AM

Another grrrrr moment
 
In Fast Food Nation, Eric Schlosser repeatedly (okay, twice in two pages) refers to E.Coli @#$%^ (whichever strain it is that kills people--I don't feel like looking it up at the moment) as "hearty" or "heartier."

This is not the first time I've seen this error. It's right up there with "diffuse" instead of "defuse" and "loathe" instead of "loath."

Ugh.

tm
timmier than thou

Allytigator 04-08-2003 03:20 PM

Ouch!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pretermitted_child
Why, thank you.

I suppose groveling, then, would make me positively irresistable. ;)

-pc


Or irresistible, such as the case may be.

[TM Diva's not the only spelling timmy!]

Allytigator ;)

pretermitted_child 04-08-2003 05:24 PM

Ouch! Ouch!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Allytigator
Or irresistible, such as the case may be.

[TM Diva's not the only spelling timmy!]

Allytigator ;)
It seems as if I have a knack for bringing out everyone's inner timmy. :eek:

I'll change my title. :bow:

The score is now:

timmys (or is it timmies?): 2
pretermitted_child: 0

pretermitted(where's the spellcheck button?)child

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-08-2003 05:34 PM

Ouch! Ouch!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pretermitted_child
timmys (or is it timmies?)

I think the current preferred spelling is timmy's

tmdiva 04-08-2003 06:10 PM

Ouch! Ouch!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I think the current preferred spelling is timmy's
Lord help me, that made me laugh out loud.

tm

tmdiva 04-09-2003 03:21 AM

I am the most timmy
 
Or at least I'm having serial annoyances.

In a forwarded e-mail message today: "froth" when he meant "fraught."

tm

pretermitted_child 04-10-2003 02:15 AM

U.S. to host oppoition meeting in Iraq

cnn.com's headline ticker (at 10:06pm PST on April 9, 2003).

robustpuppy 04-10-2003 04:11 PM

I am the most timmy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tmdiva
Or at least I'm having serial annoyances.

In a forwarded e-mail message today: "froth" when he meant "fraught."

tm
Does the sender pronounce height as "heighth," too?

Atticus Grinch 04-11-2003 02:39 PM

Inure
 
Thanks to Dictionary.com's Word of the Day, I'm starting to wonder whether I and every lawyer I've ever met have been using "inure" incorrectly. Of course, it never gets used except in the phrase "inures to the detriment of the plaintiff," in which phrase it's pretty meaningless anyway. When you file a complaint, the average reader will safely assume that you're complaining that something or someone is giving you some cause to complain.

[Edit: typo]

AngryMulletMan 04-11-2003 03:04 PM

Inure
 
In transactional practice, a thing inures to a person when it benefits that person or or that person fixes his interest in it.

What I am wondering is why "X inures to the benefit of Y" is the drafting standard. It seems redundant.

Any Edwin Newman types out there?

AngryMulletMan 04-11-2003 03:06 PM

Or or
 
Flame away!

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-11-2003 03:20 PM

Inure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Thanks to Dictionary.com's Word of the Day, I'm starting to wonder whether I and every lawyer I've ever met have been using "inure" incorrectly. Of course, it never gets used except in the phrase "inures to the detriment of the plaintiff," in which phrase it's pretty meaningless anyway. When you file a complaint, the average reader will safely assume that you're complaining that something or someone is giving you some cause to complain.

[Edit: typo]
They must be repeating themselves:

Dec. 20, 1999, WOTD

It does seem incorrectly used. In an "obviates the need for" kind of way.

pretermitted_child 04-13-2003 02:23 AM

cnn.com does it again
 
CNN's Brent Sadler: Tikrit quite, looks like ghost town

location: http://www.cnn.com, first bullet point under very big "Tikrit Abandoned" headline (at 22:21 PST on April 13, 2003)

NOTE: The mistake was corrected within three minutes of my post.

coup_d'skek 04-13-2003 08:36 PM

Inure
 
Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Quote:

Thanks to Dictionary.com's Word of the Day, I'm starting to wonder whether I and every lawyer I've ever met have been using "inure" incorrectly. Of course, it never gets used except in the phrase "inures to the detriment of the plaintiff," in which phrase it's pretty meaningless anyway.
You haven't seen a lawyer use the word "inure" in the transitive sense? One would've thought you moved in better circles.

In any event, Dictionary.com's definition of "inure"'s intrasitive sense is incomplete. It's used in two ways: (i) come into effect, take or have effect, be applied &c , or (ii) to serve to the use or benefit of (e.g., the donation inured to the benefit of the charity).

Other dictionaries, perhaps even yours, include a broader definition of the intransitive sense.

Atticus Grinch 04-15-2003 03:43 PM

Inure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by coup_d'skek
In any event, Dictionary.com's definition of "inure"'s intrasitive sense is incomplete. It's used in two ways: (i) come into effect, take or have effect, be applied &c , or (ii) to serve to the use or benefit of (e.g., the donation inured to the benefit of the charity).
What a relief! My cheap-ass firm doesn't have one of those better dictionaries upon which you rely. Is your firm accepting resumes? Because I really hope we can be cubicle-mates and share a copy of the OED and perhaps much more.

SlaveNoMore 04-15-2003 03:55 PM

A roomful of wannabe Safires
 
My god, who started this room?

My god, no wonder I hated law school so much.


not7yS(hoot me)

pretermitted_child 04-15-2003 06:21 PM

A roomful of wannabe Safires
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
My god, who started this room?
Mistress Eaze so graciously
conjured this room with alacrity
upon a silly request from me
so the FB remains timmy-free


pretermitted(with a flourish, em doffs em's feathered cap and bows deeply)child

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-15-2003 08:54 PM

Inure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by coup_d'skek
Originally posted by Atticus Grinch


You haven't seen a lawyer use the word "inure" in the transitive sense? One would've thought you moved in better circles.

In any event, Dictionary.com's definition of "inure"'s intrasitive sense is incomplete. It's used in two ways: (i) come into effect, take or have effect, be applied &c , or (ii) to serve to the use or benefit of (e.g., the donation inured to the benefit of the charity).

Other dictionaries, perhaps even yours, include a broader definition of the intransitive sense.
All these lawyers and no one has noted that inure is a term of art, set out in section 501(c)(3) of the tax code (no part of the net earnings of a charity may inure to a private individual) and defined in the regulations as well as various rulings and cases?!?!!

Class, please, remember that dictionaries constitute neither statutes nor caselaw, and thus have no precedential value unless cited by said statutes or caselaw. The legal term of art is not subject to amendment by the rabble, even when the rabble have JDs.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-15-2003 08:57 PM

A roomful of wannabe Safires
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pretermitted_child
Mistress Eaze so graciously
conjured this room with alacrity
upon a silly request from me
so the FB remains timmy-free


pretermitted(with a flourish, em doffs em's feathered cap and bows deeply)child

HERE HERE!!

Good Post, but must the FB be truly timmifry?

pretermitted_child 04-15-2003 11:13 PM

and this is the Delicious Dish on National Public Radio . . .
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
HERE HERE!!

Good Post, but must the FB be truly timmifry?
timmifry? Is this some new dish?

pretermitted(I can't cook)child

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-16-2003 11:20 AM

Timmifry
 
Recipe:

Take the timmies, let them stew in their own juices, keep them away from all other foodstuffs. When reduced to a pulp, throw them out. Now you are free of your timmies.

tmdiva 04-17-2003 02:37 AM

A roomful of wannabe Safires
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
HERE HERE!!

Good Post, but must the FB be truly timmifry?
Dude, are you aspiring to Timmy-hood? Or are you just a poseur? I say the latter, because otherwise you would know it should be "HEAR HEAR."

t(i)m(my)

somewhat anon 04-17-2003 02:01 PM

Inure
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy, Greedy, Greedy
Quote:

All these lawyers and no one has noted that inure is a term of art...
The unfamiliarity with the term is the reason that we in this area of gov have no shortage of people to prosecute for private inurement.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-17-2003 02:43 PM

A roomful of wannabe Safires
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tmdiva
Dude, are you aspiring to Timmy-hood? Or are you just a poseur? I say the latter, because otherwise you would know it should be "HEAR HEAR."

t(i)m(my)
Oh, this is a dangerous board to post on. :flag:

How about alternative three: I'm someone amused by the timmies. :wink:

pretermitted_child 04-20-2003 06:43 PM

Our Motto
 
At the bottom of this page, you will encounter the following site motto conjured up by our esteemed Mistress Eaze:

The place for greedy, and not so greedy associates, partners, legal professionals and law students to come and chat about, well, everything.

Once again, the humble serial comma has not been invited to the party.

-p(I hope I'm not the only one who finds the following book dedication as speaking to something quite remarkable: To my parents, Ayn Rand and God.)c

pretermitted_child 04-20-2003 07:10 PM

A roomful of wannabe Safires
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Oh, this is a dangerous board to post on.
Conveniently, there is no spell-check function, which makes this board prone to Timmy-infestations.

Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

:flag:

This smiley is labeled as "flag." For a while, I thought the strange white triangle bore a close resemblance to a folded dinner napkin that was being used as a bib of some kind, rather than a flag. However, the dinner-napkin-as-bib theory didn't seem to quite work as it would appear that the smiley was wearing it on its head. So unless it is stipulated that the smiley has spatial coordination problems, my latest theory is that the white triangle is actually a dunce cap.

Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
How about alternative three: I'm someone amused by the timmies. :wink:
Bring out the dancing timmies! *clap* *clap*

-pc

pretermitted_child 04-21-2003 03:22 AM

Our Motto
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
And I hate you for dragging me into your Timmyesque world.
If you had a theme song, I suppose it would go something like this (sung to the tune of "Barbie Girl" by Aqua):

I'm a timmy girl, in a timmy world
They're bombastic, too scholastic!
They will stop and stare, spot errors everywhere
In punctuation, spelling, and citation
Come on timmy, let's go party!

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
By the by, one does not tend to wave a duncecap on a stick. It is called flag because the smiley in question is waving the white flag of surrender.
I'm sorry, Mistress Eaze, but I am not convinced. First of all, I do not see the "stick" to which the "flag" is attached. Even if the existence of the "stick" were to be established somehow, I cannot see how the smiley would be waving the "flag" since it doesn't have any arms. A good example of a smiley having arms and holding a stick is :wtf: . Thus, the "dunce cap" smiley simply does not possess the essential flag-bearing features to "surrender."

-pc

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-21-2003 03:30 PM

Our Motto
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pretermitted_child

I'm sorry, Mistress Eaze, but I am not convinced. First of all, I do not see the "stick" to which the "flag" is attached. Even if the existence of the "stick" were to be established somehow, I cannot see how the smiley would be waving the "flag" since it doesn't have any arms. A good example of a smiley having arms and holding a stick is :wtf: . Thus, the "dunce cap" smiley simply does not possess the essential flag-bearing features to "surrender."

-pc
So you're a smilie timmy too? Good lord, they have no legs or bodies, as well as rubberized jaws, and the ability to ejaculate from their chins, why would you expect them to have arms?

tmdiva 04-21-2003 04:31 PM

Our Motto
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pretermitted_child
The place for greedy, and not so greedy associates, partners, legal professionals and law students to come and chat about, well, everything.

Once again, the humble serial comma has not been invited to the party.
I'm much more concerned about the missing comma after the second "greedy" than the one that could theoretically go after "professionals."

tm

Atticus Grinch 04-21-2003 08:39 PM

"Juris Doctorate"
 
Is there such a thing as a "Juris Doctorate"? I thought that because the degree of "Juris Doctor" isn't a true doctoral degree, the use of "doctorate" was inappropriate, and is just a way to add syllables and therefore pretense. Is my memory playing tricks on me?

coup_d'skek 04-22-2003 01:44 AM

"Juris Doctorate"
 
Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Quote:

Is there such a thing as a "Juris Doctorate"?Is my memory playing tricks on me?
Yes, the terminal degree is called an SJD or JSD (doctor of juridical science or doctor of the science of law).

Quote:

Is my memory playing tricks on me?
If you have a weakness, it's economics, not memory.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-22-2003 10:07 AM

"Juris Doctorate"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Is there such a thing as a "Juris Doctorate"? I thought that because the degree of "Juris Doctor" isn't a true doctoral degree, the use of "doctorate" was inappropriate, and is just a way to add syllables and therefore pretense. Is my memory playing tricks on me?
It's a malapropism. The degree is Juris Doctor. And it's not a doctoral degree. It's a bachelor degree that someone had the idea of fluffing up into a "doctorate" some years ago.

A family friend, when given the option by Harvard to convert his Ll.B. into a J.D., with a new diploma and everything, declined on principle. He tells me he's one of the few people still living who can legitimately claim to have an Ll.B. from Harvard. Not an interesting story, except for a timmy board, I guess.

Allytigator 04-22-2003 05:39 PM

"Juris Doctorate"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
It's a malapropism. The degree is Juris Doctor. And it's not a doctoral degree. It's a bachelor degree that someone had the idea of fluffing up into a "doctorate" some years ago.

A family friend, when given the option by Harvard to convert his Ll.B. into a J.D., with a new diploma and everything, declined on principle. He tells me he's one of the few people still living who can legitimately claim to have an Ll.B. from Harvard. Not an interesting story, except for a timmy board, I guess.

Yup, it's not a real doctorate, although my law school went as far as having us wear the purple hoods (properly reserved for doctoral candidates) with our gowns for the commencement ceremony.

It's kind of like size inflation in women's clothing: a silly thing done to appease people who should know better, but someone decided it was a good idea and got others to buy it.

"Dr." Allytigator - ha!

pretermitted_child 04-23-2003 06:50 PM

Why I disable Grammar Check
 
http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev...ammarcheck.jpg

This is further proof that Microsoft hires semi-literate programmers whose treatment of the English language can, at best, be charitably characterized as "creative." Every year, Microsoft hires a boatload of geeks from my undergrad college, which unsurprisingly, does not offer English as a major.

-pc

(Ok, the image should appear now. Thanks, Leagl!)

Tyrone Slothrop 04-23-2003 08:36 PM

Why I disable Grammar Check
 
Here's that image:

[I removed the link to save some schlub's bandwidth]

Huh. I can't make it work.

Atticus Grinch 04-24-2003 03:13 PM

res·tau·ra·teur
 
I have just discovered, to my eternal shame, that restauraNteur is a disfavored alternative spelling to the more proper restaurateur. I have never noticed the spelling sans N. That's what I get for not taking French in H.S. --- I have been pronouncing it with an N all these years.

The AHD says the N is an "also" spelling. Anyone with access to the OED care to tell me whether the N is just the AHD's conformance to inevitable American butchery, and therefore to be shunned absolutely? CdS?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-24-2003 03:21 PM

res·tau·ra·teur
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch

The AHD says the N is an "also" spelling.
Isn't an "also" spelling simply a euphemism for "wrong spelling that's apparently acceptable since so many people make the error"?

Speaking of such, a headline in the NY Times last week used the word "Till" as in "until" or " 'til " I forget the exact headline, but it was something like US Army to stay in Iraq Till the Cows Come Home.

Has "Till" become a formal variant of "until"? And God help us if it has. What's next, "thru" and "nite"?

Misc Anon 04-25-2003 10:20 PM

Report: Uh, it's like student writing is bad
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
An article from CNN on a report about student writing:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/04....ap/index.html
Apparently, student writing remains a problem even during law school.

In an email to em's peons, the Editor-In-Chief of a high-profile, student-edited law journal (at a top 10 law school) writes:

So, with no further adieu:



It's amazing how student-edited law reviews/journals have survived for so long . . .

robustpuppy 04-28-2003 12:20 PM

Report: Uh, it's like student writing is bad
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
An article from CNN on a report about student writing:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/04....ap/index.html
Was anybody else amused by the quote from the man who is lamenting the sorry state of written expression?

"We're trying to say: 'Hey, ladies and gentlemen, this is a very serious matter for our society'," said C. Peter Magrath, commission chairman and president of the National Association of State Universities and Land-Grant Colleges.

What an opening. CNN chose to put this quote in a box on the page. Those editors -- what imps!

r(Hey, ladies and gentlemen? Who says that?)p

pretermitted_child 05-03-2003 09:36 PM

Every parent should have one.
 
It's The English-to-12-Year-Old-AOLer Translator!

Just look at how easily it parses and digests serious-looking text into a form that any 12-year-old can understand!

I translated item #13 of this site's TOS:

Leagl Sounding All Serious and Grown-Up:

13. TERMINATION

You agree that the Site may, under certain circumstances and without prior notice, immediately terminate your Site account, any associated email and private mail address, and access to the Service. Cause for such termination shall include, but not be limited to, (a) breaches or violations of the TOS or other incorporated agreements or guidelines, (b) requests by law enforcement or other government agencies, (c) a request by you (self-initiated account deletions), (d) discontinuance or material modification to the Service (or any part thereof), (e) unexpected technical issues or problems, and (f) extended periods of inactivity. Termination of your Site account includes (a) removal of access to all offerings within the Service, (b) deletion of your password and all related information, files and content associated with or inside your account (or any part thereof), and (c) barring further use of the Service. Further, you agree that all terminations for cause shall be made in the Site's sole discretion and that the Site shall not be liable to you or any third-party for any termination of your account, any associated email or private mail address, or access to the Service.



Translated into 12-Year-Old-AOLese:

13!!!!!!1! OMG WTF TERMINATION

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