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At last, the formula for success with woman!

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Originally posted by Spanky
Some people are just plain ugly. By anyones standard. My friend that is married to the fashion model is just plain ugly. It just looks like a mutant. He knew her for years. She went out with a bunch of jerks (mainly male models) before him and he was always there for her. I think he was twenty seven when they got together and he was still a virgin. One day they hooked up and they got married. They have been married for fifteen years now. Some people might think that she settled for him. But she acts like she is really into him and brags about the great sex.

This is the Seal Effect, no? You may keep the Quasimodo Modelizers on your planet.

I understand this is your justification for going after models who seem uninterested in you (or generically for thinking you should be able to date out of your league), but his personality might be better than yours?

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Originally posted by Spanky
I said: My experience with relationships has been that those that are easy to get ain't worth having.

I am having trouble figuring out the relationship between these two posts. I have a sense that your response was an attempt at an insult. Does that mean you felt I had insulted you in my statement? And your response was a tit for tat? Why did you feel that my first statement was directed at you?

If your post was an attempt to dispute my statement where you questioning the veracity of my statement, or were you saying that eventhough that had been my experience, that in general relationships that are easy to obtain are better?

I was just riffing on your "in my experience" starting line. I left out desperate, by the way. That is another opition for the show up at work scenario. Creepy, desperate or stalkerish. So, maybe not so bad?

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If you're trying to break the news that NFH and i are dating- NEWS FLASH I am already talking about it.

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Originally posted by Spanky
My experience with relationships has been that those that are easy to get ain't worth having.

And my experience has been that those that are too hard to get aren't worth the trouble.

There has to be some mutuality or it doesn't ever really work.

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen

There has to be some mutuality or it doesn't ever really work.

Is the oral thing again or are you talking generally?

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I was just riffing on your "in my experience" starting line. I left out desperate, by the way. That is another opition for the show up at work scenario. Creepy, desperate or stalkerish. So, maybe not so bad?

What happen to you in your life that has made you so bitter and angry.

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Originally posted by Spanky
What happen to you in your life that has made you so bitter and angry.

Co-signing loans. Duh.

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Originally posted by Spanky
What happen to you in your life that has made you so bitter and angry.

Seriously, I am telling you what your so-called friends should have. I'm aware you don't want to hear it.

It is well and good to joke about this stuff, but you should think about the way your actions may be perceived.

I am neither bitter nor angry. But I understand the shoot the messenger thing.

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Seriously, I am telling you what your so-called friends should have. I'm aware you don't want to hear it.

It is well and good to joke about this stuff, but you should think about the way your actions may be perceived.

I am neither bitter nor angry. But I understand the shoot the messenger thing.

NCS, you know I did once crush you, platonically, but seriously, I see Spanky's effourts as nothing more than charm infused boyishly innocent courting. Back in the day I did much the same thing. In some cases the chemistry just wasn't there, but you never know unless you tri.

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
NCS, you know I did once crush you, platonically, but seriously, I see Spanky's effourts as nothing more than charm infused boyishly innocent courting. Back in the day I did much the same thing. In some cases the chemistry just wasn't there, but you never know unless you tri.

How'd that crush work out? Requited? Ever consider showing up at my work to discuss it?

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
How'd that crush work out? Requited?

NCS, techically I am over it, but my official life-policy, if you will, so to speak, is "Never say never." I may have invented that phrase.

Let me know tell you a story of perservance. Many years ago I set a goal, it doesn't matter what it was, other than it was quantifiable. One of my early attempts at the goal resulted in failure. I missed the goal by .37 of one percent. 0.37% if you scoring at home.

I told myself things could never get worse than they were at that moment. I wept. Like the babyjesus in that biblical story, only I suspect harder. npi. But I rededicated myself to the effourt. I spent a year and countless hours during that year pursuing the goal, certain that such dedication and single minded focus would not let me down again.

The result you ask?

Failure. Again. By .27 of one percent. 0.27% if you are scoring at home.

The follow up: I kept trying. And I pray Spanky does the same.

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Ever consider showing up at my work to discuss it?

You may not realize it, but I am using the Cyranno d'Bergerac approach to slowly wear you down.

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This is just ridiculous:

I give you two little snippets of what has exchanged between me and the Serbian and you are absolutely sure you know what is going on. You never got to see mannerisms, facial expressions etc. but you know what you are talking about.

And you are doing me a favor by telling me that I should just give up and this has nothing to do with your own internal issues but is just an altruist effort to save me from further humiliation of rejection. Which is a favor that my fake friends don't be seem to willing to grant.

Please.

If you are correct what is the down side of me keeping up the chase. What is the worst that can happen to me? I get turned down again. Oh no the horror?

I was just looking for some intelligent input and I just get these bitter harangue and knee jerk conclusions. No one, on the evidence you have received, can draw a final conclusion.

Do you not think I was aware of the fact that showing up at her work could be perceived as scary? I showed up and waited until she had some free time, I apologised for showing up but I said that it seemed the best thing to do. But if I was making her feel uncormfortable or causing trouble I could leave right away. When I told her I could just walk out of her life, I made it very clear that she would never hear form me again and I totally understand. No harm done. I was really polite about it, not threatening and made it clear I did not want to cause her any consternation.

An intelligent response would be:

Here are some possibilities.

1) She is so conflict averse that she really doesn't want you around but just can't even bring herself to hint at it. And that is why the mixed signals.

2) She is not sure if she can trust. She is slightly interested but at this point isn't quite sure if going out with me would be considered a stupid risk in this day and age.

3) She does like me but wants to make sure I am really interested and not out for a good time.

4) She is interested and doesn't think she has done anything to hint otherwise. She didn't call me because she didn't want to be too forward, but that is natural.

5) She has no idea what she is thinking and just lives purely in the moment.

6) She is not balances and her moods and feelings change constantly.

I think your response for my quest for intelligent input sheds a great deal more light on your personal issues than it does on my relationship with the Serbian. Although from other peoples responses, it seems people have been trying to warn me about this.

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Originally posted by Spanky
I think your response for my quest for intelligent input sheds a great deal more light on your personal issues than it does on my relationship with the Serbian. Although from other peoples responses, it seems people have been trying to warn me about this.

I thought you didn't want input from Woman? Woman doesn't know what she wants.

I love your theories on my personal issues. I wasn't really trying to help you. More to help the Serbian. I'm sure she'll stop by here at some point and thank me.

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Originally posted by Spanky

If you are correct what is the down side of me keeping up the chase. What is the worst that can happen to me? I get turned down again. Oh no the horror?

did you read my post? You could come .1 of one percent closer but still fail. But there is honour in such failure. Imagine if Reagan had given up after 1976.......we'd all be speaking Russian now (although, ironically, the Serbian would probably also be speaking Russian and maybe that would help your chances). Nyet! eye of the tiger!!!

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
This is the Seal Effect, no? You may keep the Quasimodo Modelizers on your planet.

I understand this is your justification for going after models who seem uninterested in you (or generically for thinking you should be able to date out of your league), but his personality might be better than yours?

If you're talking about Seal the singer, I really don't get this. Besides the scarring, the man is the most perfectly proportioned, dreamiest, sexiest man alive. He is beyond hot. See below.

As for women only changing their mind if the physical attraction is there instantly, there are definitely exceptions. Especially for guys that appear a little geeky at first. I remember a guy in college who was asking me out. He was a little on the skinny side and seemed gawky/geeky and I dissed him. Then he showed up at my sorority dance with the hottest girl in my sorority. He looked hot in his tux and I finally saw him as the hot guy he was. It's a Clark Kent thing where you can't imagine him without the glasses but then he transforms in your mind and you end up thinking he's hot. Happens.

http://www.seal.com/photos/images/seal4_2.jpg http://www.seal.com/photos/images/seal4_10.jpg http://www.seal.com/global_images/albums/ACF6082.jpg
http://www.seal.com/global_images/albums/DSC001891.JPG