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Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-25-2018 05:05 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 517950)
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Just so awful.

Every time we hear what a great character this dude has, let's just respond "Ask Renate"

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-25-2018 05:10 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
By the way, if this Supreme court thing doesn't work out, look like Kavanaugh could go into biotech. This ability to restore lost virginity could be a gold mine.

Replaced_Texan 09-25-2018 06:07 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 517953)
By the way, if this Supreme court thing doesn't work out, look like Kavanaugh could go into biotech. This ability to restore lost virginity could be a gold mine.

I keep waiting for someone to testify to the status of his hymen in 1983

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-25-2018 08:17 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 517954)
I keep waiting for someone to testify to the status of his hymen in 1983

I believe that issue is in play now.

Not Bob 09-25-2018 09:13 PM

Catholic boys start much too late.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 517954)
I keep waiting for someone to testify to the status of his hymen in 1983

This from Slate points out that his alleged chastity is Not Relevant.

I knew he was a lace-curtain prick. I may have been a shitty dude in 1983, but I never groped the Punk Rock Girl when she was blotto, no matter how blotto I was.

And a shanty Irish grown up wouldn’t pretend that the “alumni association” crack was anything other than, at best, a mean joke. “Went to a single school function” and “admired her then and now,” my ass.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-26-2018 09:11 AM

Re: Catholic boys start much too late.
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 517956)
This from Slate points out that his alleged chastity is Not Relevant.

I knew he was a lace-curtain prick. I may have been a shitty dude in 1983, but I never groped the Punk Rock Girl when she was blotto, no matter how blotto I was.

And a shanty Irish grown up wouldn’t pretend that the “alumni association” crack was anything other than, at best, a mean joke. “Went to a single school function” and “admired her then and now,” my ass.

Beyond outing a high school sex partner (or not) being loathsome, it’s dumb as all fuck, and selfish to society generally

Congrats, dumbass, by enforcing the double standard, not only you, but the rest of us, have fewer opportunities, as women are concerned about reputation. Women lose out, men lose out, our culture develops more hang-ups about a positive thing.

And while I’m at it, there’s a special ring in hell for women who call other women promiscuous. They should wind up married to Bretts.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-26-2018 09:23 AM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 517955)
I believe that issue is in play now.

I’ve actually spent a few weekends with folks from that school. The Dead Kennedys’ “Too Drunk to Fuck” could be a soundtrack.

Beer drinkers. JV.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-26-2018 09:42 AM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 517949)
Right now the person I feel worse for is Renate.

This accrues from sex bonding culture. Sexes naturally bond together, but when they do it drunk between junior high and grad school, it’s bad. Particularly when they’re whitebread sheltered kids.

This isn’t an exclusively guy thing. Have you ever spent time in an all female dorm or a house occupied by numerous girls? I’d sleep there with girlfriends and hear the most insane intimate details of my male friends’ anatomy. I knew which way half the frat house’s dicks leaned. Really graphic shit. Body odor, who couldn’t get it up... you name it.

My wife just told me an untrue and embarrassing story an ex passed around about me after we broke up. Thing circulated for years. (I probably deserved it because I ghosted her instead of breaking up honorably... but that’s beyond the point.)

Point being, “guys’ guys” are fucking weird. So are girly girls. If you enjoy hanging with your own sex exclusively more than hanging with both, I don’t want to drink with you.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-26-2018 10:20 AM

Re: Catholic boys start much too late.
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 517956)
This from Slate points out that his alleged chastity is Not Relevant.

I knew he was a lace-curtain prick. I may have been a shitty dude in 1983, but I never groped the Punk Rock Girl when she was blotto, no matter how blotto I was.

And a shanty Irish grown up wouldn’t pretend that the “alumni association” crack was anything other than, at best, a mean joke. “Went to a single school function” and “admired her then and now,” my ass.

My conclusion from all of this is that there are two things that are indisputable:

(i) he was a drunken asshole during high school and college; that's not a crime, and there were even a couple drunken assholes I knew back then I thought were amusing, but most of them were just drunken assholes.

(ii) he's a liar today. He lies about small things, ranging from what the drinking age was when he was 17 (relevance?), to how much he drank back then, to what his sexual relationships were.

Number (ii) means that if this is just he-said, she-said, he loses. Number (i) isn't really relevant - while it may be more likely a drunken asshole will assault someone, there are plenty of drunken assholes who don't. But (i) does mean I will not feel guilty about any schadenfreude I may express about the situation, so there is that.

Hank Chinaski 09-26-2018 10:23 AM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 517959)
This accrues from sex bonding culture. Sexes naturally bond together, but when they do it drunk between junior high and grad school, it’s bad. Particularly when they’re whitebread sheltered kids.

This isn’t an exclusively guy thing. Have you ever spent time in an all female dorm or a house occupied by numerous girls? I’d sleep there with girlfriends and hear the most insane intimate details of my male friends’ anatomy. I knew which way half the frat house’s dicks leaned. Really graphic shit. Body odor, who couldn’t get it up... you name it.

My wife just told me an untrue and embarrassing story an ex passed around about me after we broke up. Thing circulated for years. (I probably deserved it because I ghosted her instead of breaking up honorably... but that’s beyond the point.)

Point being, “guys’ guys” are fucking weird. So are girly girls. If you enjoy hanging with your own sex exclusively more than hanging with both, I don’t want to drink with you.

That 8 football players from Georgetown Prep all claimed to have had sex with her is one thing. That she might have heard it at the time, and been in a situation where her perhaps healthy activities were being used in an attempt to make her feel lesser is another thing.

But 30 years later to be the subject of national news, and the example of how shitty rich boys can be to someone who thought she was their friend, is pretty fucked up. Icing: a few weeks ago she signed a paper saying Kav was a good guy.

i wonder if enrollment will be down at G-Town Prep next year.

Hank Chinaski 09-26-2018 10:28 AM

Re: Catholic boys start much too late.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 517960)
My conclusion from all of this is that there are two things that are indisputable:

(i) he was a drunken asshole during high school and college; that's not a crime, and there were even a couple drunken assholes I knew back then I thought were amusing, but most of them were just drunken assholes.

So you feel Senator Blutarsky shouldn't have been seated?

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(ii) he's a liar today. He lies about small things, ranging from what the drinking age was when he was 17 (relevance?), to how much he drank back then, to what his sexual relationships were.
I went back and read what my state's Bar Character and Fitness looked at- would an allegation like this bar me from being a lawyer? The answer was it isn't clear- BUT over and over the materials emphasized being truthful now is taken as way more important than what shit you might have done then. Oh, and "ties" go to you don't get the ticket. You've a burden to prove you'll be okay.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-26-2018 10:44 AM

Re: Catholic boys start much too late.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 517962)
So you feel Senator Blutarsky shouldn't have been seated?

I supported Ted Kennedy for President in 1980, so back when he was in high school I was supporting a drunken asshole for President. (Yes, this is one of the things I now regret).

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I went back and read what my state's Bar Character and Fitness looked at- would an allegation like this bar me from being a lawyer? The answer was it isn't clear- BUT over and over the materials emphasized being truthful now is taken as way more important than what shit you might have done then. Oh, and "ties" go to you don't get the ticket. You've a burden to prove you'll be okay.
Lying today is the thing. He should know this.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-26-2018 11:21 AM

Re: Catholic boys start much too late.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 517963)
I supported Ted Kennedy for President in 1980, so back when he was in high school I was supporting a drunken asshole for President. (Yes, this is one of the things I now regret).

Lying today is the thing. He should know this.

Um, the past looks like it’s going to be front and center: https://www.democraticunderground.org/100211183107

sebastian_dangerfield 09-26-2018 11:25 AM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 517961)
That 8 football players from Georgetown Prep all claimed to have had sex with her is one thing. That she might have heard it at the time, and been in a situation where her perhaps healthy activities were being used in an attempt to make her feel lesser is another thing.

But 30 years later to be the subject of national news, and the example of how shitty rich boys can be to someone who thought she was their friend, is pretty fucked up. Icing: a few weeks ago she signed a paper saying Kav was a good guy.

i wonder if enrollment will be down at G-Town Prep next year.

The media didn’t need to name her. It could’ve run that without doing so.

Tom Wolfe left too early. This is the mother of all Big Books.

Replaced_Texan 09-26-2018 11:52 AM

Re: Catholic boys start much too late.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 517964)
Um, the past looks like it’s going to be front and center: https://www.democraticunderground.org/100211183107

This is just horrible. And those assholes in the Senate don't give a flying fuck.


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