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Icky Thump 12-11-2014 03:24 PM

Re: A Friendly Correction for those Man-Haters who Delve to be Single
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 491898)
I'm sorry, but these people give lawyers everywhere a bad name. We're the people who can bullshit our way through anything - exam, court, negotiation - even if spent all day the day before at a protest and then stayed up all night drinking. If they can't think on their feet, they need to head to business school.

Am I on ignore. On the PB (now you know why I am never there) I understand but here?

ThurgreedMarshall 12-11-2014 05:20 PM

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notcasesensitive 12-12-2014 11:46 AM

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This guy has it all figured out.

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Icky Thump 12-13-2014 11:32 AM

Real-life law firm question
 
Am I right that if you have to let someone go this time of year, you do it after the holidays? After just Xmas? Or after Xmas and New Year's?

This was sold to us as an experienced para and the bill comes due 1/5. But when em took 5 hours to do a 2 sentence letter and got it wrong, and sent it the wrong way enuf's enuf.

Hank Chinaski 12-13-2014 12:13 PM

Re: Real-life law firm question
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 491972)
Am I right that if you have to let someone go this time of year, you do it after the holidays? After just Xmas? Or after Xmas and New Year's?

This was sold to us as an experienced para and the bill comes due 1/5. But when em took 5 hours to do a 2 sentence letter and got it wrong, and sent it the wrong way enuf's enuf.

does she have nice hair?

Icky Thump 12-13-2014 02:11 PM

Re: Real-life law firm question
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 491973)
does she have nice hair?

em is bald.

taxwonk 12-13-2014 04:05 PM

Re: Real-life law firm question
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 491972)
Am I right that if you have to let someone go this time of year, you do it after the holidays? After just Xmas? Or after Xmas and New Year's?

This was sold to us as an experienced para and the bill comes due 1/5. But when em took 5 hours to do a 2 sentence letter and got it wrong, and sent it the wrong way enuf's enuf.

If she's that bad, she knows she's getting fired and it's just a matter of time. Give her notice now that her last day will be 12/31.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 12-13-2014 04:42 PM

Re: Real-life law firm question
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 491972)
Am I right that if you have to let someone go this time of year, you do it after the holidays? After just Xmas? Or after Xmas and New Year's?

This was sold to us as an experienced para and the bill comes due 1/5. But when em took 5 hours to do a 2 sentence letter and got it wrong, and sent it the wrong way enuf's enuf.

Fire em in January, and you screwed em because em spent all their holiday money happy em had the job.

Fire em now, and you're just a fucking scrooge.

So, only real choice, let them know now that they are not working out, but you feel badly especially given the time of year, so you are going to give them one month notice instead of the two weeks you'd give em in January. Tell them not to show up for work. They will still hate you. But your other employees will think you are not bad for a boss as long as they hear you gave them the extra severance; the other employees want them gone as much as you do and believe you have unlimited funds to assuage your guilt and properly used them to do that.

Your only other real alternative is to suffer with them through February, in which case you may well be viewed as a too nice sap by your other employees.

Icky Thump 12-13-2014 06:42 PM

Re: Real-life law firm question
 
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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 491978)
If she's that bad, she knows she's getting fired and it's just a matter of time. Give her notice now that her last day will be 12/31.

Thanks for the input.

I can't keep em 'til February as there's some kind of probation period that expires in January.

I don't think this person realizes despite numerous conversations.

How about let 'em go 12/26 (we're open) with an extra 2 weeks?

Hank Chinaski 12-13-2014 07:44 PM

Re: Real-life law firm question
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 491981)
Thanks for the input.

I can't keep em 'til February as there's some kind of probation period that expires in January.

I don't think this person realizes despite numerous conversations.

How about let 'em go 12/26 (we're open) with an extra 2 weeks?

You're open the Friday after Xmas? My gawd, you can't make her come in just to get fired. Do it this Monday. Paid through 12/31.

Icky Thump 12-14-2014 06:19 AM

Re: Real-life law firm question
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 491982)
You're open the Friday after Xmas? My gawd, you can't make her come in just to get fired. Do it this Monday. Paid through 12/31.

We are open and it is a payday. Trying to avoid firing someone before xmas.

taxwonk 12-14-2014 01:33 PM

Re: Real-life law firm question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 491981)
Thanks for the input.

I can't keep em 'til February as there's some kind of probation period that expires in January.

I don't think this person realizes despite numerous conversations.

How about let 'em go 12/26 (we're open) with an extra 2 weeks?

That sounds pretty reasonable.

Not Bob 12-14-2014 03:50 PM

You're a good man, Icky Thump.
 
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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 491986)
That sounds pretty reasonable.

Agreed. Underneath that crusty exterior, you're a Not Bad dude. Kind of like a LT version of Donald Brashear.

Hank Chinaski 12-14-2014 03:51 PM

Re: Real-life law firm question
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 491985)
We are open and it is a payday. Trying to avoid firing someone before xmas.

I know you are open. I also know every staff member and associate thinks it is fucked up you are. If em drags em's ass into the city that day, when em's entire family has the day off and is wanting to go somewhere, only to have you Fire em, em's going to be pissed off.


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