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sebastian_dangerfield 05-18-2018 08:56 AM

Re: Michael Avenatti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 515179)
Either you didn’t look at the link that Less provided, or multi-million dollar verdicts (non-PI) don’t give you an idea what the paisan can do.

Avenatti has also served as lead counsel on a number of historically large cases, including an April 2017 $454 million verdict after a jury trial in Federal Court in Los Angeles in a fraud case against Kimberly-Clark and Halyard Health,[30] later reduced to a $21.7 million dollar verdict upon appeal,[31] an $80.5 million class-action settlement against Service Corporation International,[32] a $41 million jury verdict against KPMG,[33] and a $39 million malicious prosecution settlement.[34]

Doesn’t mean he’ll recover for Stormy (Popehat thinks his defamation claims are weak), but it seems to me that he’s more than just a guy who likes to see himself on the teeveee

He's a Gloria Allred with actual chops. Those two skill sets don't overlap much, but in this case, they've congealed into a formidable advocate/technician.

Hank Chinaski 05-18-2018 09:04 AM

Re: Michael Avenatti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 515179)
Either you didn’t look at the link that Less provided, or multi-million dollar verdicts (non-PI) don’t give you an idea what the paisan can do.

Avenatti has also served as lead counsel on a number of historically large cases, including an April 2017 $454 million verdict after a jury trial in Federal Court in Los Angeles in a fraud case against Kimberly-Clark and Halyard Health,[30] later reduced to a $21.7 million dollar verdict upon appeal,[31] an $80.5 million class-action settlement against Service Corporation International,[32] a $41 million jury verdict against KPMG,[33] and a $39 million malicious prosecution settlement.[34]

Doesn’t mean he’ll recover for Stormy (Popehat thinks his defamation claims are weak), but it seems to me that he’s more than just a guy who likes to see himself on the teeveee

Ehh, people aren't propping him up because of that, they just like he talks big about Trump. Big verdicts sometimes just mean very guilty D's. We will see if/when he does something.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-18-2018 09:05 AM

Re: You sell yourself as a man to save.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515171)
Speaking of Wolfe and notes, see this tweet specifically and the rest of the thread.

I like that, and like the author, I'll refrain from checking the veracity of it. Believing the next great American book could just be a pair of jeans away gives me hope.

(I met Wolfe once. After thanking him for providing me with considerable entertainment over the years, he started in on a conversation about cars, a subject on which I'm weak. He then pivoted to my wife, who's much easier on the eyes. I went back to the bar and wound up talking to Geraldo Rivera.

That was a strange room.)

sebastian_dangerfield 05-18-2018 09:10 AM

Re: Michael Avenatti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 515182)
Ehh, people aren't propping him up because of that, they just like he talks big about Trump. Big verdicts sometimes just mean very guilty D's. We will see if/when he does something.

You only acquire cases with very guilty Ds by demonstrating ability to "ring the bell" to referral sources. It's true some big PI guys are middling lawyers who got lucky. But this guy is enjoying a pretty solid snowball effect, and keeping it going. That usually indicates exceptional skills.

Hank Chinaski 05-18-2018 09:46 AM

Re: Michael Avenatti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515184)
You only acquire cases with very guilty Ds by demonstrating ability to "ring the bell" to referral sources. It's true some big PI guys are middling lawyers who got lucky. But this guy is enjoying a pretty solid snowball effect, and keeping it going. That usually indicates exceptional skills.

Disagree. Seen too many hacks who are the "crowd's choice."

Adder 05-18-2018 10:18 AM

Re: Michael Avenatti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 515179)

Doesn’t mean he’ll recover for Stormy (Popehat thinks his defamation claims are weak), but it seems to me that he’s more than just a guy who likes to see himself on the teeveee

I'm not sure the goal is to recover damages for Stormy. Dude also has a history as a political operative.

Adder 05-18-2018 10:18 AM

Re: Michael Avenatti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 515177)
oh shit, the "speak English" guy was GW?

Yup. And he has a history too.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-18-2018 10:36 AM

Fake Everything (Or Why I Gave Up Believing Anything and Learned to Just Surf Chance)
 
This classic needed a dust-off for the current age: http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicin...l.pmed.0020124

Applies to almost any data.

ETA: Doing Evil - Much Evil, or Why I Never Search While Logged in to Google, Have No Facebook Page, and Share All of My Computers: https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/17/1...o-data-privacy

Adder 05-18-2018 11:02 AM

Re: Fake Everything (Or Why I Gave Up Believing Anything and Learned to Just Surf Cha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515188)
This classic needed a dust-off for the current age: http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicin...l.pmed.0020124

Applies to almost any data.

No, applies to individual studies. Which is why scientific consensus is never based on one study.

ferrets_bueller 05-18-2018 11:40 AM

Re: What ever happened to Tucker Max?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515180)
I don't do pinot noir.

1. You should. Aside from Granache, it is as marvelous a grape as we have on the planet.

2. Concerning your comments about Martinis, I believe you are, intentionally or unintentionally, channeling Dorothy Parker. To paraphrase her: One martini, two at the most. Three I'm under the table, four, I'm under the host.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-18-2018 11:57 AM

Re: Fake Everything (Or Why I Gave Up Believing Anything and Learned to Just Surf Cha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 515189)
No, applies to individual studies. Which is why scientific consensus is never based on one study.

I'll skip to where you're going: I was not offering this to challenge climate change. Consensus there is unassailable. Stop reading into everything as an adversarial snipe.

And I meant "any type of data," Timmy, which should have been obvious.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-18-2018 12:01 PM

Re: What ever happened to Tucker Max?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller (Post 515190)
1. You should. Aside from Granache, it is as marvelous a grape as we have on the planet.

2. Concerning your comments about Martinis, I believe you are, intentionally or unintentionally, channeling Dorothy Parker. To paraphrase her: One martini, two at the most. Three I'm under the table, four, I'm under the host.

1. I stand corrected. I have enjoyed Meiomi.

2. I have a Dorothy Parker book somewhere in the shelves. Someone gifted it to me. Not read it yet, but obviously I'm a fan of her signature line, "If you can't anything nice about anyone, sit next to me" (also paraphrased).

Hank Chinaski 05-18-2018 12:59 PM

Re: What ever happened to Tucker Max?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515192)
2. I have a Dorothy Parker book somewhere in the shelves. Someone gifted it to me. Not read it yet, but obviously I'm a fan of her signature line, "If you can't anything nice about anyone, sit next to me" (also paraphrased).

We i met Paigow she insisted on the bar at the Algonquin that had housed the round table. Ironweed was supposed to meet us. So you can see where P's conceits were, at least back then.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-18-2018 01:52 PM

Re: Michael Avenatti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 515187)
Yup. And he has a history too.

Do tell.

Adder 05-18-2018 02:45 PM

Re: Michael Avenatti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515194)
Do tell.

There's another video of him harassing someone on the street he assumed was foreign (but wasn't). I don't know anything that's not floating around the media.

LessinSF 05-18-2018 04:12 PM

Erwin Chemerinsky and Jones Day
 
must feel warm all over -
https://twitter.com/BrianWToth/statu...11264844816384

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 05-18-2018 04:41 PM

Re: What ever happened to Tucker Max?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515180)
I don't do pinot noir.

You'll never score with Mrs. Coltrane with an attitude like that.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-18-2018 05:17 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
For Hank.

Quote:

Yes, anti-Semitism is alive and well, and increasingly it masquerades as criticism of Israel. But as the executive director of T’ruah, a Jewish organization dedicated to protecting human rights here, in Israel and in the occupied Palestinian territories, I know it’s possible to criticize Israel without veering into anti-Semitism. I do it every day.

Hank Chinaski 05-18-2018 06:41 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515198)

Read it. I could have written this years ago. Hopefully your posts will evolve, or stop?

Tyrone Slothrop 05-18-2018 06:57 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 515199)
Read it. I could have written this years ago. Hopefully your posts will evolve, or stop?

Thanks for reading it. Baby steps.

Hank Chinaski 05-18-2018 08:09 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515200)
Thanks for reading it. Baby steps.

Well sure. No one expects you to come fully around to seeing reality, frankly, on any topic. But we just are glad you shared this apology/ mea culpa. I've been hoping for as much, kine hara!

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-21-2018 01:21 PM

Whew
 
I was part of a trial team that lost a jury trial - $200+M verdict for the plaintiffs.

We should have never tried the case - should have won on SJ. Thankfully, the appellate court agreed and the state supreme court declined it.

Lawyers talking law!

Tyrone Slothrop 05-21-2018 02:21 PM

Re: Whew
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 515203)
I was part of a trial team that lost a jury trial - $200+M verdict for the plaintiffs.

We should have never tried the case - should have won on SJ. Thankfully, the appellate court agreed and the state supreme court declined it.

Lawyers talking law!

I did that to the tune of $800 m once, except it was a bench trial before a particularly dim judge. Trying cases is fun, but it was very frustrating to invest so much time on something to be decided by the dullest knife in the drawer.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-21-2018 03:24 PM

Re: Whew
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515206)
I did that to the tune of $800 m once, except it was a bench trial before a particularly dim judge. Trying cases is fun, but it was very frustrating to invest so much time on something to be decided by the dullest knife in the drawer.

One-upper!

The one benefit from that trial was a whole lot of Marriott points.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-21-2018 03:58 PM

Re: Whew
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 515203)
I was part of a trial team that lost a jury trial - $200+M verdict for the plaintiffs.

We should have never tried the case - should have won on SJ. Thankfully, the appellate court agreed and the state supreme court declined it.

Lawyers talking law!

Congratulations!!

Of course, had you won on SJ the firm would not have had as good a year, right?

sebastian_dangerfield 05-21-2018 04:50 PM

Re: What ever happened to Tucker Max?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 515197)
You'll never score with Mrs. Coltrane with an attitude like that.

“How you doin’? You know... I win all of my trials.

Buy you a nice meaty merlot?”

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-21-2018 05:12 PM

Re: Whew
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 515209)
Congratulations!!

Of course, had you won on SJ the firm would not have had as good a year, right?

No doubt. Someone had a great year.

Hank Chinaski 05-21-2018 05:17 PM

Re: Whew
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 515209)
Congratulations!!

Of course, had you won on SJ the firm would not have had as good a year, right?

going out on a limb, the appeal went elsewhere?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-21-2018 05:18 PM

Re: Whew
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 515219)
going out on a limb, the appeal went elsewhere?

No. I did.






Wait a second. With me: lose trial. Without me: win appeal. Damnitall!!

sebastian_dangerfield 05-22-2018 11:12 AM

Re: Whew
 
Mark Penn, Clintonista, on Mueller: http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary...protect-us-all

Tyrone Slothrop 05-22-2018 11:30 AM

Re: Whew
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515228)
Mark Penn, Clintonista, on Mueller: http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary...protect-us-all

He's like Dick Morris all over again. Why does anyone find anything he says interesting?

ferrets_bueller 05-22-2018 01:41 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Several threads ago there was a discussion between urbanites and suburbanites about the respective merits of the dwelling locales. As a defender of the suburban, I would note that the finest argument for the urban dwellers is: Last Sunday's New York Times Arts and Leisure section.


There were endless lists of what to do in the city this summer. Music festivals, theater, other performing arts. Sure, there were ads for Jones Beach Theater, etc., but from Coney Island to the Bronx, the city looks like the place to be if you don't have a close personal friend on Dune Road in the Hamptons.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-22-2018 01:55 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller (Post 515230)
Several threads ago there was a discussion between urbanites and suburbanites about the respective merits of the dwelling locales. As a defender of the suburban, I would note that the finest argument for the urban dwellers is: Last Sunday's New York Times Arts and Leisure section.


There were endless lists of what to do in the city this summer. Music festivals, theater, other performing arts. Sure, there were ads for Jones Beach Theater, etc., but from Coney Island to the Bronx, the city looks like the place to be if you don't have a close personal friend on Dune Road in the Hamptons.

I went to Santa Cruz on Saturday and San Francisco on Sunday, and I don't live in either one!

ferrets_bueller 05-22-2018 02:33 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515231)
I went to Santa Cruz on Saturday and San Francisco on Sunday, and I don't live in either one!

Is The Catalyst still a great music venue in Santa Cruz?

Tyrone Slothrop 05-22-2018 03:24 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller (Post 515232)
Is The Catalyst still a great music venue in Santa Cruz?

Haven't been there in a few years, but I think so. I was there for a wretched youth soccer game, and then we bought our weight in succulents and carnivorous plants.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-22-2018 04:07 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Is the frozen concentrated orange juice in Trading Places a reference to a key event in the life of Richard M. Nixon? If so, how did I not know this? If not, never mind.

ThurgreedMarshall 05-22-2018 04:18 PM

Re: Whew
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515228)
Mark Penn, Clintonista, on Mueller: http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary...protect-us-all

I tried to read this stupid shit the other day. It's absolutely unreadable.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 05-22-2018 04:22 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515234)
Is the frozen concentrated orange juice in Trading Places a reference to a key event in the life of Richard M. Nixon? If so, how did I not know this? If not, never mind.

If it's a wink and a nod, it's pretty clever. But based on his connection to fcoj, it looks like a coincidence.

I wish it were a Trading Places insider fact, though. I'm always up for those.
__________
10. Nixon ran a failed orange juice business.

In 1938, Nixon and several investors attempted to strike it rich making California orange juice, but Richard had no more luck than his father in the citrus business. The future president was not just the president of the Citra-Frost Company, which attempted to produce and sell frozen orange juice, but he even performed the menial work of cutting and squeezing oranges. Citra-Frost’s misguided attempt to freeze the juice itself, rather than the concentrate, doomed it to bankruptcy after just 18 months.

https://www.history.com/news/10-thin...-richard-nixon

TM

sebastian_dangerfield 05-22-2018 05:50 PM

Re: Michael Avenatti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 515172)
I have a lawyer crush on this guy. He waited until Trump filed his ethics (referencing the $130,000 hush money paid through his cut out Cohen) disclosure "in the interest of transparency" before revealing he likely has two other clients to whom Trump paid hush money, which was not disclosed. http://www.newsweek.com/michael-aven...n-trump-931194

Plus, he's a stud. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Avenatti

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...522-story.html

Icky Thump 05-22-2018 07:05 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller (Post 515230)
Several threads ago there was a discussion between urbanites and suburbanites about the respective merits of the dwelling locales. As a defender of the suburban, I would note that the finest argument for the urban dwellers is: Last Sunday's New York Times Arts and Leisure section.


There were endless lists of what to do in the city this summer. Music festivals, theater, other performing arts. Sure, there were ads for Jones Beach Theater, etc., but from Coney Island to the Bronx, the city looks like the place to be if you don't have a close personal friend on Dune Road in the Hamptons.

So I can be in NYC in 40 min and the only fuckers I have shitting on my doorstep shit little pellets.


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