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Adder 01-19-2022 10:23 AM
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 532192)
... you can lament the decline of craft on the part of the justices, and think things like, if only their analysis and regard for the facts were a little better -- that's the kind of reform we need. I have lost that faith, in the Court and in constitutional law. I think conservatives have corrupted the Court, and constitutional law.
Has it really been a decline or can we just see it because we're in the middle of it?

Hank Chinaski 01-19-2022 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 532193)
Hank apparently gets to make shit up, like the idea that her vote depended on that fact. Sotomayor is stupid, but he's a storyteller!
I just can't with you....

She started with the agency had provided a detailed a factual record to support, then took off on a flyer? I'm sure it was just chit-chat, making convo.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-19-2022 11:36 AM
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 532192)
I think what I'm trying to say to you (both) is that the loose handling of facts is a symptom, not a cause. Yes, the Court should be engaging in principled legal analysis, not outcome-oriented hackery. The vaccination decision was outcome-oriented hackery, a shitshow of purported statutory interpretation. The reason for that is *not* that the justices are incapable of factual (or historical) analysis. As it happens, that is not their forte, and it should surprise no one, because if you were designing an institution to do that stuff well, you wouldn't take nine geriatric lawyers, who get their jobs by being politically well-connected, and give them a staff of a few booksmart but utterly inexperienced law-school graduates. Would it be nice if they did a better job? Absolutely. But the much more fundamental problem is that the conservative movement has politicized the Court. The conservative majority just prevented the government from protecting workers from getting sick, because conservatives have decided to oppose vaccination out of opposition to seeing Biden succeed. (Find me a conservative who thinks that children with lice ought to be free to go to school and sit next to lice-free children because freedom.)

The vaccination decision totally pisses me off. In that context, it also pisses me off that someone could respond to it by saying that Sotomayor is stupid because she got a predicate fact wrong in a question in oral argument. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.

eta: And why is this worth arguing about? If you have a traditionalist's faith in the Court as an institution, and in constitutional law as a discipline, then you can lament the decline of craft on the part of the justices, and think things like, if only their analysis and regard for the facts were a little better -- that's the kind of reform we need. I have lost that faith, in the Court and in constitutional law. I think conservatives have corrupted the Court, and constitutional law. Both are, broadly speaking, mechanisms to sort out disagreements about how run things, and most conservatives are too afraid that they are losing to be willing to compromise about such things. Blinding oneself to what conservatives are doing, to the Court and to the country, is a form of naivety that is part of the problem, not the solution.
My suggestion was that we put some non-lawyers on the court, because lawyers are just wonderful at arguing forever based on their objective and very, very bad at reasoning to a solution based on evidence.

Reading what you have written, I am more convinced than ever. Indeed, let's fill a lot of judicial positions with non-lawyers. We need less "legal reasoning" (there's an oxymoron!) and more problem solving.

Hank Chinaski 01-19-2022 01:14 PM
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So my (non-scientific) observation is that Omicron has peaked around here and is falling off a bit. Each morning I drive by an Urgent Care that is a big rapid test place. A few weeks ago each morning there was a line of cars in the highway waiting to get into the parking. People had to wait until someone else pulled out to get a spot. This week there have been empty spots in the lot.

How about where you guys are?

Tyrone Slothrop 01-19-2022 02:09 PM
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 532194)
Has it really been a decline or can we just see it because we're in the middle of it?
Yes, good point.

Tyrone Slothrop 01-19-2022 02:11 PM
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 532195)
I just can't with you....

She started with the agency had provided a detailed a factual record to support, then took off on a flyer? I'm sure it was just chit-chat, making convo.
Cite, please. I found the transcript for you -- what are you talking about?

C'mon, Mr. My Firm Had A Case In The Supreme Court -- if you're going to talk the talk, walk the walk.

Tyrone Slothrop 01-19-2022 02:12 PM
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 532196)
My suggestion was that we put some non-lawyers on the court, because lawyers are just wonderful at arguing forever based on their objective and very, very bad at reasoning to a solution based on evidence.

Reading what you have written, I am more convinced than ever. Indeed, let's fill a lot of judicial positions with non-lawyers. We need less "legal reasoning" (there's an oxymoron!) and more problem solving.
The conservatives on the Court are solving problems. They just aren't the same problems you see, and you don't like their solutions.

Icky Thump 01-20-2022 08:30 AM
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 532197)
So my (non-scientific) observation is that Omicron has peaked around here and is falling off a bit. Each morning I drive by an Urgent Care that is a big rapid test place. A few weeks ago each morning there was a line of cars in the highway waiting to get into the parking. People had to wait until someone else pulled out to get a spot. This week there have been empty spots in the lot.

How about where you guys are?
I went into a Walgreens on 14th Street to buy cat litter at 5:00 PM and there were literally hundreds and hundreds of home Covid tests on the shelf, looking untouched.

Replaced_Texan 01-20-2022 01:47 PM
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 532197)
So my (non-scientific) observation is that Omicron has peaked around here and is falling off a bit. Each morning I drive by an Urgent Care that is a big rapid test place. A few weeks ago each morning there was a line of cars in the highway waiting to get into the parking. People had to wait until someone else pulled out to get a spot. This week there have been empty spots in the lot.

How about where you guys are?
Our numbers seem to have plateaued, both in daily positives and hospital admissions.

I wonder if the number is going down because everyone has had it now?

My brother, my sister, my 2-year-old niece, and my mother have it right now. My dad and my other sister do not. All triple vaccinated (except the niece), all living in the same house in the country until Friday, when my brother tested positive and they all separated to isolate. My 82 year old dad is at the highest risk, and he’s been with my mother the whole time. He’s been exposed for 5 days now and seems to be fine. Going theory is that his 45+ years working on respiratory issues in the ICUs exposed him to so many bugs he has a super heightened immune system. 2-year-old is happy she gets ice cream and can watch Nemo or Zootopia whenever she wants. Sister seems to have it the worst. Brother on the upswing. Mom holding steady.

Everyone thought it’d would be my husband or my sister’s who brought it to the family. Mine teaches in a yoga studio (he’s masked and doesn’t go near anyone, but it’s indoors and people are idiots). Hers teaches at Rice and went to South Africa and Malawi in the height of their Omicron outbreaks. (He was in Houston--aka Gomorrah to those living in the country for the last 22 months--when the ranch outbreak started, both working and getting ready for Sunday's marathon. He has stayed here while my sister and niece are isolated at the ranch.)

My brother and sister are flipping a house in the country, which is why they were there. Probably some close contact with a contractor or vendor was the source. No one out there really cares about any sort of protocols.

I just really don’t want to get it while I’m pregnant, no matter how mild this particular variant is. We are all back working from home full time until this passes, but I'll probably keep on staying here until the baby is born in early March even if the rest of the office goes back sometime in February.

We still have a ton of people out with Covid at work. The number of positives are still higher than they've been for the entire pandemic, but they're a little less than the week before and the week before that. Staffing has been an issue in some parts, but I suspect some of the work-from-home people are working while having it. It's on the clinical side we can't have people going in with it. I'm guessing we have another three or so weeks before we start seeing some definite declines.

Adder 01-20-2022 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 532202)
Probably some close contact with a contractor or vendor was the source. No one out there really cares about any sort of protocols.
We're getting our kitchen done and the contractors all seem to have gotten it in the last few weeks. Kid was also exposed two weeks ago at preschool, but we've have it invade the bubble.

I'm still going to the office part time, because there's no one here anyway and I'm in my office by myself, but would otherwise be working from home.

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the baby is born in early March
It's coming up fast!

Tyrone Slothrop 01-20-2022 08:04 PM
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 532202)
Our numbers seem to have plateaued, both in daily positives and hospital admissions.

I wonder if the number is going down because everyone has had it now?

My brother, my sister, my 2-year-old niece, and my mother have it right now. My dad and my other sister do not. All triple vaccinated (except the niece), all living in the same house in the country until Friday, when my brother tested positive and they all separated to isolate. My 82 year old dad is at the highest risk, and he’s been with my mother the whole time. He’s been exposed for 5 days now and seems to be fine. Going theory is that his 45+ years working on respiratory issues in the ICUs exposed him to so many bugs he has a super heightened immune system. 2-year-old is happy she gets ice cream and can watch Nemo or Zootopia whenever she wants. Sister seems to have it the worst. Brother on the upswing. Mom holding steady.

Everyone thought it’d would be my husband or my sister’s who brought it to the family. Mine teaches in a yoga studio (he’s masked and doesn’t go near anyone, but it’s indoors and people are idiots). Hers teaches at Rice and went to South Africa and Malawi in the height of their Omicron outbreaks. (He was in Houston--aka Gomorrah to those living in the country for the last 22 months--when the ranch outbreak started, both working and getting ready for Sunday's marathon. He has stayed here while my sister and niece are isolated at the ranch.)

My brother and sister are flipping a house in the country, which is why they were there. Probably some close contact with a contractor or vendor was the source. No one out there really cares about any sort of protocols.

I just really don’t want to get it while I’m pregnant, no matter how mild this particular variant is. We are all back working from home full time until this passes, but I'll probably keep on staying here until the baby is born in early March even if the rest of the office goes back sometime in February.

We still have a ton of people out with Covid at work. The number of positives are still higher than they've been for the entire pandemic, but they're a little less than the week before and the week before that. Staffing has been an issue in some parts, but I suspect some of the work-from-home people are working while having it. It's on the clinical side we can't have people going in with it. I'm guessing we have another three or so weeks before we start seeing some definite declines.
We had seven people in our house for Xmas, and four of them have had it since. My wife, the youngest Slothrop and I -- the three who live here -- are still uninfected. We are trying our damnedest to avoid it, for all the reasons but primarily because Ms. Slothrop is managing a short-staffed ICU, and if she has to stay home it'll be a clusterfuck.

Happily, around here it looks like R is down from 2.5 just before New Years to a little over .5.

Icky Thump 01-21-2022 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 532204)
We had seven people in our house for Xmas, and four of them have had it since. My wife, the youngest Slothrop and I -- the three who live here -- are still uninfected. We are trying our damnedest to avoid it, for all the reasons but primarily because Ms. Slothrop is managing a short-staffed ICU, and if she has to stay home it'll be a clusterfuck.

Happily, around here it looks like R is down from 2.5 just before New Years to a little over .5.
Something don't jive here, homey. Maybe read an article or two.

Icky Thump 01-21-2022 09:48 AM
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 532203)
We're getting our kitchen done and the contractors all seem to have gotten it in the last few weeks. Kid was also exposed two weeks ago at preschool, but we've have it invade the bubble.

I'm still going to the office part time, because there's no one here anyway and I'm in my office by myself, but would otherwise be working from home.



It's coming up fast!
Part time here too even though I was recently able to score a year's supply of Kn95s.

However, my office has very strict rules. You have to wear a mask if you get up from your open floor plan desk and take one step. But if you are sitting at your open floor plan desk you can take your mask off because the virus knows to stop if you are sitting working, making the bosses money.

Pretty Little Flower 01-21-2022 10:52 AM
What’s it gonna be, boy?
 
Though it’s cold and lonely in the deep dark night
I can see paradise by the dashboard light

Hank Chinaski 01-21-2022 02:06 PM
Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 532206)
Part time here too even though I was recently able to score a year's supply of Kn95s.

However, my office has very strict rules. You have to wear a mask if you get up from your open floor plan desk and take one step. But if you are sitting at your open floor plan desk you can take your mask off because the virus knows to stop if you are sitting working, making the bosses money.
"Why do you have to get up? Bathroom? Icky, I don't make money off your bathroom time!"



[The better joke is, "bathroom time is not billable in and of itself," but PI]


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