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Hank Chinaski 06-02-2005 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I don't get it.
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ThurgreedMarshall 06-02-2005 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
My son has a friend who is constantly making vaguely anti-black racist statements. Once he leaves I try and point out to my son that the things the kid says are wrong, but my kid sees them as more innocent. kids are tough to raise. maybe I should call the kid on them......
Are you serious? "Maybe?" Am I whiffing or something?

You should announce to that little brat that racism and comments like these about any race won't be permitted in your house and if he can't control himself, you will usher him out with a foot in the ass delivered with all deliberate speed.

Then you should school your kid on the definition of "innocent."

TM

mmm3587 06-02-2005 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Does anyone actually know anyone who makes disability jokes? Or is it just too shameful and embarrassing to pull off in real life?
Assuming that this is a serious question, I think it's pretty common. How often do you hear people say "what a retard!" or "I just had an alzheimer's moment!"? A lot more often that you hear people say "Kike!" or "Faggot!" these days.

At the very least, it's among the most common -ism in a professional environment where no one makes that many racist, sexist or homophobic comments anymore.

ltl/fb 06-02-2005 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by mmm3587 no one makes that many racist, sexist or homophobic comments anymore.
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mmm3587 06-02-2005 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
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You are such a one-trick prole. What don't you understand about "that many" meaning less than there used to be in a professional setting? Or do you really think that things are the way that they were, say, even in the early 90s when it comes to, for example, comments about "homos fucking each other up the ass" and "catching AIDS"? Law's always been touchy-feely; ask dtb what the (straight, white, conservative) boys on the desk are like even today.

Replaced_Texan 06-02-2005 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by mmm3587
You are such a one-trick prole. What don't you understand about "that many" meaning less than there used to be in a professional setting? Or do you really think that things are the way that they were, say, even in the early 90s when it comes to, for example, comments about "homos fucking each other up the ass" and "catching AIDS"? Law's always been touchy-feely; ask dtb what the (straight, white, conservative) boys on the desk are like even today.
I'm pretty sure they were saying shit like that on the floor of the Texas State Legislature earlier this session.

notcasesensitive 06-02-2005 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by mmm3587
You are such a one-trick prole. What don't you understand about "that many" meaning less than there used to be in a professional setting? Or do you really think that things are the way that they were, say, even in the early 90s when it comes to, for example, comments about "homos fucking each other up the ass" and "catching AIDS"? Law's always been touchy-feely; ask dtb what the (straight, white, conservative) boys on the desk are like even today.
Yeah. Umm. In some parts of the country, the homo jokes are quite prevalent. Even among the enlightened associate types.

str8outavannuys 06-02-2005 03:09 AM

This post is not about homos or kikes
 
If you're going to listen to one str8 rec'mendation this year, this is the one.

Tomorrow night on Bravo, 11 p.m. (set your Tivos), it's THE DAN BAND in a concert movie directed by Steven Spielberg, or maybe he's producing it, I don't know exactly. What I do know is that I've seen them in concert a bunch and they're a blast.

By the way, these are the guys who were the wedding band in Old School ("Turn around, every now and then I get a little bit terrified/I see that fuckin' look in your eyes") and the Bar Mitzvah band in Starsky and Hutch.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-02-2005 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I do the same thing with idiots who tell gay jokes. And don't get me started on Aristocratic Mexicans.
How aristocratic are they?

TM

Hank Chinaski 06-02-2005 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Are you serious? "Maybe?" Am I whiffing or something?

You should announce to that little brat that racism and comments like these about any race won't be permitted in your house and if he can't control himself, you will usher him out with a foot in the ass delivered with all deliberate speed.

Then you should school your kid on the definition of "innocent."

TM
Not a whiff, the question was poorly stated but serious. The operative word in my post was "vaguely". The kid doesn't say overtly racist things, it's more like things where any one of them might seem not much, but once you hear a half dozen you start thinking something is up with him.

Like kids make fun of other kids. When he talks about other kids that are black the way he makes fun of them is a little different than if he was dogging a white kid, but it is something you don't really catch at first.

My kid would reject the overtly racist (I'm confident) I worry more about the understated.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-02-2005 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Not a whiff, the question was poorly stated but serious. The operative word in my post was "vaguely". The kid doesn't say overtly racist things, it's more like things where any one of them might seem not much, but once you hear a half dozen you start thinking something is up with him.

Like kids make fun of other kids. When he talks about other kids that are black the way he makes fun of them is a little different than if he was dogging a white kid, but it is something you don't really catch at first.

My kid would reject the overtly racist (I'm confident) I worry more about the understated.
Understood.

That's tough. If I were you, I would talk to my kid, quite seriously about his friend's attitude. If you sit him down and point out your concerns, using examples and say something like, "He's your friend, I'm not going to tell you how to deal with him, but I think you should keep your eye open for behavior that doesn't fit with how I know you deal with people who are different than you," you empower your kid and I bet he would take it upon himself to straighten shit out on his own or at least be better equipped to define what is actually 'innocent' and what isn't. It ain't a black-or-white world (so to speak) and developing an ear for that kind of stuff, even though it would seem obvious to adults, is difficult. Good luck.

On another note, is anyone else watching 'Bullshit' with Penn and Teller on HBO? It's shot to the top of my list with a bullet.

TM

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-02-2005 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I pointed out that members of my family are black. I guess I just felt that would personalize the point for him, but I felt like a pussy for doing it. Like if members of my family weren't black, I wouldn't care. Anyhoo, it shut him up, so I suppose that is good.
2. Usually works.

It's different with the 70 and older crowd. They don't realize they're being offensive, so I just let them be. Old dog, new tricks and such.

Hank Chinaski 06-02-2005 11:09 AM

This post is not about homos or kikes
 
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Originally posted by str8outavannuys
If you're going to listen to one str8 rec'mendation this year, this is the one.

Tomorrow night on Bravo, 11 p.m. (set your Tivos), it's THE DAN BAND in a concert movie directed by Steven Spielberg, or maybe he's producing it, I don't know exactly. What I do know is that I've seen them in concert a bunch and they're a blast.

By the way, these are the guys who were the wedding band in Old School ("Turn around, every now and then I get a little bit terrified/I see that fuckin' look in your eyes") and the Bar Mitzvah band in Starsky and Hutch.
My ex-aunt is in Degrassi- Next Generation.

Not Bob 06-02-2005 11:32 AM

Eureka!
 
From overheard in new york:

Guy on cell: She is worse than blow, man...I can never have sex with anyone else ever again now that I've had a taste of paradise.

--Starbucks, 43rd & 3rd

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-02-2005 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
On another note, is anyone else watching 'Bullshit' with Penn and Teller on HBO? It's shot to the top of my list with a bullet.

TM
I love this show. It's on Showtime, though. (Mondays at 10!)

spoiler?

The one on gay marriage/families was particularly great, not least because the addressed one of my longstanding questions: How the hell do they get these assholes to say such rEdiculous stuff on camera? Answer: apparently, they think they're bullet proof. I guess this doesn't surprise me.

I was somewhat disappointed with their supposed disembowelment of Mother Theresa, Ghandi and the Dalai Lama. While I always adore seeing Christopher Hitchens (who will ever be in my heart for coining the phrase "a simpering bambi narcisisst and a theiving Albanian dwarf" to describe the princess of wales and Mother T.), I mean, damn, I could have given them better dirt (and backed it up) on Mother Theresa than they used. And the best dirt on Ghandi they can come up with is "he liked to lie around naked with girls"? WTF? Who cares? They do this themselves in half of their episodes. Enemas? Someone send them a netti. They should have focused more - a whole ep on MT would have been better.

BR(The description of Richard Gere as the only person the DL could find more stupid and gullible than the CIA was pretty good, though)C


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