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Originally posted by Spanky
There are Gold Diggers but woman are not into money as most women think. When I was living in Tokyo it was a modeling center and a financial center, much like New York city. In the VIP section of most the clubs you would find many modles and many fixed income and equity traders. Most of these guys were in their twenties and they averaged million dollar bonuses. In Japan there were also many hostesses. These were girls from all over the world that were brought to Japan and were paid just to hang out in bars. Neither the models or the hostesses were interested in Japanese men, so the ods were pretty good. But these bond and equity traders could never get these girls to go out with them. Even with all their money. There were also lots of musicians and other entertainers that couldn't make it in the states and came over to Japan. These guys had very little money. Many of the clubs hired western men to be the hosts, bartenders and waiters because it was chic to have western men in these jobs. The entertainers and the bartenders etc. hooked up with the models and the hostesses but the rich equity and bond traders were left high and dry. The same was true of the foreign lawyers like me. We generally were making pretty good money but most it was difficult for most of my collegues to get these girls to date them.

You make a good point. Sometimes complete odiousness can overcome even Gold Digger woman's desire for cash.

ltl/fb

08-05-2005 04:29 PM

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*sigh* I'm not saying you can get a really high-quality, hot woman this way -- I was saying this is your best bet.

I'm basing this on listening to groups of women in restaurants bragging and trying to top each others' stories of what all they got a guy to buy them, and at what stage of the relationship. Specifically, this is based on a guy who one met at a cafe during the day and *that very afternoon* he took her to Highland Park Village and got her an outfit at Chanel. I think she won. It was riveting. Also, it's fun when they talk about combining the "help" from a few boyfriends to fund the boob job.

sebastian_dangerfield

08-05-2005 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
You are out of your element, Donnie.

Bottom line is she is into you bc you were al older wealthy american man when you met, but somehow that image went away on the phone. or she met someone hotter, younger and richer later on. She still wants your money and citizen status though. Send her some jewelry or an expensive token of your interset. That will do it.

If you run the numbers, its much more cost effective to just become a lifelong John.

paigowprincess

08-05-2005 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Honey, I am a woman, and it's true of me.

She has the failed marriage to prove it , which underscores your point about women who marry men they werent into. Many do it bc of social conventions taht marriage is the norm and this is what they ended up with by T. Or they are not able to support themselves economically or really want to have kids or move to a house in Palo Alto Hills and attend the Mayflower Ball.

I bet Less would mainly agree that I am mostly correct.

That said, there are excetptions to the rule. My close guy friend married a woman who he had to pursue (and she is no prize, trust me, she is the winner in that situation). But I think he was just the marrying type and that probably appealed to her. But she loves him very much now. This much I know.

I know another couple where the wife had decided before even meeting the husband that she watned someone who loved her more than she loved him. Probably for security reasons.

But my favorite couple is the couple where each believes that they cannot believe how lucky they are that the other person loves them too. This soudns very low self esteem and co as I write it but that isnt how it sounded at the time.

ltl/fb

08-05-2005 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
You make a good point. Sometimes complete odiousness can overcome even Gold Digger woman's desire for cash.

Or, the guys weren't willing to spend it on the women. Or, those women were making more than enough money themselves . . . you gotta find someone who is hungry. Like, who is a non-exotic (non-pricey) waitress/student.

Flinty_McFlint

08-05-2005 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Unlike Less, it never occured to me to use this board to get dates. I don't ever expect to "date" anyone on this board. And I don't really care what people think of me. If what I am saying offends people so be it. If you knew my history you would know that I am not being arrogant about this. I have put a lot of thought time and effort over the past twenty years on how to pursue woman. Over the past five years I realized that I missed out on a lot in life because I was so focused on that single pursuit. But I took it very seriously. And I have been pretty successful.

WOMAN!!! WOMAN!! ME SPANKY!!! SPANKY LIKE WOMAN!!!

nononono

08-05-2005 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Or, the guys weren't willing to spend it on the women. Or, those women were making more than enough money themselves . . . you gotta find someone who is hungry. Like, who is a non-exotic (non-pricey) waitress/student.

Or, the guys thought they knew better than woman what she wanted.

What you really need is woman who doesn't speak the language of the country you're in; improves the advantage greatly.

paigowprincess

08-05-2005 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Woman generally are terrible to go to advice about how to deal with woman. Generally they like to think they treat relationships a certain way but in general they don't.

The knee jerk reaction of a woman, that has been borne out by the board, is they immediately say - well I don't act that way, or I don't think like that. But when you ask a woman how their friends act and think you get more useful information. Woman generally are to "close" to themselves to give you an unbiased view of how they think.

This is turning out to be the FB version of the Invade Cuba thread. Honey, I don't know if you are the marrying type but if you are, there may be a reason you are not. You don't listen and you don't budge. Reminds me of my dad....ohshit.

LessinSF

08-05-2005 04:38 PM

Later

I am leaving now to go try out some of the chick-catching methods on unsuspecting San Diegan gals. During the "entertainment" portion of the bachelor party weekend, I plan on observing whether $100 bills will effect whether a lady says "yes" or a "no?" I will report back on Monday.

Miss Crabtree

08-05-2005 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
You may be rigth, but my experience tells me you are wrong. I meet girls all the time that are not into me. Its not an ego thing, but this thing may be worth pursuing.

You may not have figured this out, but I am really a male poster who is posing as a female sock. Please do me a favor and pm me the name and number of the Serbian model. It sounds like the standard is a single rich American lawyer who doesn't make her skin crawl.

Your pal,

Mr. Crabtree

PS, Please don't tell her I like to wear dresses on the internet.

paigowprincess

08-05-2005 04:40 PM

but what's a hurrishave?

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Is Stacey the woman Spanky's getting all of his information about women from? I think I see the disconnect here.

:0.

Stacey is the Natalie Portman to his Timothy Hutton. Uma Thurman plays the Immigrant waitress.

notcasesensitive

08-05-2005 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Miss Crabtree
You may not have figured this out, but I am really a male poster who is posing as a female sock. Please do me a favor and pm me the name and number of the Serbian model. It sounds like the standard is a single rich American lawyer who doesn't make her skin crawl.

Your pal,

Mr. Crabtree

PS, Please don't tell her I like to wear dresses on the internet.

NFH?

notcasesensitive

08-05-2005 04:41 PM

but what's a hurrishave?

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
:0.

Stacey is the Natalie Portman to his Timothy Hutton. Uma Thurman plays the Immigrant waitress.

And Porkchop is played by Rosie O'Donnell.

Hank Chinaski

08-05-2005 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
God, you're right. I have no clue about women and I have even less clue about myself. What was I thinking?

Here's the bottom line. When I meet a guy, I know right away if he is a yes or a no. Sometimes, I think he's a maybe, but what that really means is that he's a no, but there's a reason I think he should be a yes. Ultimately, he becomes a no. Sometimes a yes becomes a no... and every now and then, a no becomes a yes, for a little while anyway, but usually there is some change of circumstance.

Didn't you MARRY someone who didn't do oral on you? For most woman that would cause an initial yes to become a no. Poll?

Hank Chinaski

08-05-2005 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Your best bet is to hope that Serbian chick is a gold digger, and that will only help if you actually have enough gold to be worth the effort of digging. Maybe you should suggest going to dinner someplace that is in or really, really close to an area with expensive boutiques -- and say, hey, we could go shopping before dinner and pick out a nice outfit for you. Gold digging women seem to be particularly amenable to accepting clothes. And if she brings up any plastic surgery she wants, or anything else, but that she can't quite afford or is waiting until she can afford it, tell her what a good idea it is and why should she have to wait, you'd be more than happy to help her out.

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