LawTalkers - A Friendly Correction for those Man-Haters who Delve to be Single

The writing for SNL was so variable that you have to think hard about the bits that worked because of the concept and the bits that worked because of the players -- e.g., Amy Poehler here. Phil Hartman pushed a lot of things into the second category.

Who one likes on the show is so generational. Late high school parties I watched the original show- same way Wonk watched "your Show of Shows." Belushi belongs where he is. (The little I saw Eddie he was great so i can give him 2) But Dan A deserves 3/4 as does Chevy. The man left after one year, you can't character count.

The newer people I didn't see enough. I can only see Farrell as the cheerleader, so I cannot ever think of him as anything other than an idiot. If he had chops he'd have refused to do that role.

And Phil Hartman I barely know, but he would have to be ten times more charming than that Arnold Ziffel for him to be considering top 5.

Hank Chinaski

02-12-2015 08:57 PM

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Ackroyd is overrated in the extreme. Everything funny that Dan Ackroyd has ever done was funny in spite of, not because of, his performance. “Trading Places” is the only exception. But I defy you to note any difference in his characterization of Raymond Stantz, Joe Friday, Elwood Blues and Beldar Conehead. It’s basically all Beldar Conehead without prosthetics. How many times must we see him rattle off lines in a terse, monotonous faux-cerebral way? He plays everything like a dumb person’s idea of a smart person.

I’m personally happy to see Tina Fey so highly ranked, but everyone who went to U.Va. in the early '90s (as Rob Sheffield did) has a blind spot about her. I doubt other authors would rank her above anyone in the original NRFPTP.

Dan A did those crazed ad pitchman on the opening commercial and Julia Childs. You sit down now.

The movies not so much, but I liked the Jack Webb/Joe Friday- have you watched much Dragnet? It was spot on.

Hank Chinaski

02-12-2015 08:59 PM

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And fuck that article for telling me that blonde was Phil Hartman’s wife. And, always and forever, double-fuck Phil Hartman’s wife.

please to explain where to look in that very long article to find out what you are talking about.

Hank Chinaski

02-12-2015 09:02 PM

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I clicked the link, saw that it starts at like #143, and decided I had better ways to waste my time.

lots of these socks are battling for top #140th so they can plow through as you the game back there fits their day. A successful guy like you probably wants to skip to the top 10.

Me? I'm happy to discuss the list, but limited to top 5.

Atticus Grinch

02-12-2015 09:13 PM

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please to explain where to look in that very long article to find out what you are talking about.

This:

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7. Phil Hartman
Era: 1986-1994

The grown-up in the room. In the credits, he's not hanging on the street like most of the others; he's relaxing at a swank lounge with a blonde. (Hard to watch, now that we know the blonde was the real-life cokehead wife who killed him in 1998.) He was nicknamed "the Glue" for holding the show together. Chris Farley's motivational-speaker rant never could have worked without Hartman as the cool dad in chinos, keeping a straight face. No role was too small for him. He was a master at playing bitter old men; his Sinatra made Piscopo's look like a cream puff. ("I got chunks of guys like you in my stool!") But his speciality was charming assholes, from the Colon Blow ad to Bill Clinton. Oh, that smug smile when he tells the Secret Service, "There's gonna be a whole bunch of things we don't tell Mrs. Clinton."

Greatest hit: "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer," where he sums up the classic pitch of the all-American con man: "Your world frightens and confuses me. . . . But there is one thing I do know."

Atticus Grinch

02-12-2015 09:15 PM

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The movies not so much, but I liked the Jack Webb/Joe Friday- have you watched much Dragnet? It was spot on.

Kudos to the casting director, then.

Hank Chinaski

02-12-2015 09:23 PM

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Kudos to the casting director, then.

:confused::eek::cool::D

bold_n_brazen

02-13-2015 09:22 AM

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Looking good, Billy Ray!

Feeling good, Louis!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QAs4sKDuM-...00/rewards.jpg

AoN, Jamie Lee Curtis was just magnificent in that movie.

Did you just call me Coltrane?

02-13-2015 10:00 AM

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Have you never seen "The Great Outdoors"?

Mister_Ruysbroeck

02-13-2015 10:57 AM

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Flower:

http://time.com/3694763/match-com-da...vey-emoji-sex/

Adder

02-13-2015 11:22 AM

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Mike Myers did Sprockets and Wayne's World - that's it, right?

And Coffee Talk.

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And Ferrell (who I think is Top 5).

On SNL? Nah. Ferrell careened between Goat-boy levels of bad and "that's actually pretty funny" while on the show. Brilliance afterward has led him to be way overrated on this list already.

Adder

02-13-2015 11:24 AM

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Agree on most of this (victims of success), except for Walken. I think his caricature is the result of other people - not him. I think his caricatureness began when impressions by Jay Mohr and Kevin Spacey became ubiquitous.

Not that it matters, but I think you mean Kevin Pollack.

Atticus Grinch

02-13-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 494318)

Not that it matters, but I think you mean Kevin Pollack.

Actually, both have Walken impressions. But then, so does everyone.

Sidd Finch

02-13-2015 12:32 PM

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