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I was talking about in my plan. Of course right now individuals cannot donate how much they want.


This is pretty much what corporate law says already.

Exactly. So if individuals are not limited on how much they donate you don't need pacs.

Yes - but they are not necessary if people can donate however much they want.
I am not afraid of free speech. I am interested in full disclosure. People can say whetever they want as long as they are willing to take credit for it. If people want to express their opinion by donating to a campaign fine. But admit that you have done it.

I don't understand why you are so against full disclousre? What is wrong with people knowing where money comes from?

The campaign finance laws totally favor Republicans right now. When you limit donations (Federal to $200, CA State $5000) you favor the people that have multiple midrange donors. Upper middle class people tend to be republican. The poor and the hyper rich tend to be Democrat (Adalai Stevensons campaigns was funded mainly by six people).

When there is a maximun, then the best fundraiser is not the one that knows a few really rich people, but a lot of moderately rich people. knowing a lot of small donors doesn't do you much good either.

Under the current finance laws I can raise a lot of money (Delay is about to find out how much) but it is really an unfair system.

People should be able to donate as much as they want as long as they are willing to admit they donated it. It is when you get secret money going into campaigns is when the bad special interest starts to get influence (tobacco companys etc).

I told McCain to his face that he was making the system worse. But as you are probably aware, McCain is not a man easily persuaded.

Anyway - it is ironic that the Dems keep pushing for these "finance reforms" and every time one gets passed it makes it harder for them to raise money.

Full disclosure is fine by me.

McCain's insistance on campaign finance is when I first realize he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed. I think, though I'm not sure (and you would know better than I) that his heart is in the right place, but maybe I'm just being naieve and it was an ego thing for him.

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Sure, for the truly rich that, because practically speaking, they have unlimited funds. Not so for the rest of us, so we need to band together for a common cause in order to be heard.


You obviously didn't like the 527s. I'm fine with full disclosure, but I'm not sure it's essential for causes other than direct contributions to candidates (to ward against a quid pro quo). But for issues, I think the position is what counts, regardless of the speaker.

Spanky --

Screeds like this give hope to our enemies. Why do you hate America?

S_A_M

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Doesn't all this come down to aggregate versus entity theories of 527s and whether limits are in place?

If you have a no-limit, full disclosure system, then there is no reason not to allow PACs so long as their donors are also disclosed. If the individual could give directly, why not let them do it through a PAC?

If you retain limits, PACs let you multiply your limits. If I give the limit directly, but also give to a PAC that supports the candidate, and have my corporation give to the candidate, I am multiplying the number of gifts derived from my personal wealth (applying an aggregate theory of entities).

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While you're approaching 3200 posts (not including your drivel on Infirm) and the highlight of your posting career is riding the coattails of other, more memorable posters by acting as if you're their lawyer.

I can only hope I live up to your high standards.

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Is knowing that you never will what makes you such an insufferable prick?

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Mosy people on here don't understand half of what you say,considering you typically speak out of both sides of your mouth as well as your ass. That said, you accused me of "hiding" behind a sock. Perhaps I misssed it, but is secret agent man your real name? Either you think I'm some other poster or you're holding the idiotic and hypocritical view that I should be posting under my real name. Which is it?

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If it makes you feel better, I would never use the term "high standards" with you.

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Refresh my recollection, you're a longtime lurker, infrequent poster who is not a penske sock, no? OBE?

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Isn't everyone?

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Ooooooh, shnap! You caved his fuckin' head in with that one.

PS: He graduated at the bottom of his law school class and has bad teeth. Hit him with that next.

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Wait a minute. I thought F&E was Penske.

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Are you a tax geek?

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I like it. Mind if I use it the next time you post?

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No, more a corporate history geek.

Just as Kate Moss is now "going to rehab" to rehabilitate her career, please recall that McCain only becames this staunch reformer after he gets busted as a member of the Keating Five.

She looked fucking hot in those photos. Killer legs. What a naughty twist. I don't think I could handle her.

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Speaking of broken records, you dims and your comrades in the MSM are to talk........

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I respect McCain, and his heart is in the right place, I think he is just trying to fix an unfixable problem. And then by trying to fix it he is making it worse. The nastiness he is faced with everyday is the bills that are below the radar screen and the corporate interests that donate soft money pretty much writing the bills. However, when the public is not paying attention there is not much you can do to prevent this sort of problem.

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Actually I don't mind 527s because they can't donate directly to campaign (I run a 527 and two PACS - state and federal) It is the people that donate directly to campaigns that I want exposed to the full light of day.

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Just had them fixed, in fact.

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Actually, I'm one of the least cryptic posters on this place, and I'm not smart enough to confuse people with dissertations on tax law, benefits, antitrust, or 18th Century jurisprudence, so you must have me confused with someone else.

That might explain the level of hostility.
So, you DID understand my post. It was the former, of course.

To review --

You seemed to have posted only 15 times since September, 2004 -- a very small number -- and your first post on Earle sounded like something someone else might have said -- so I reasonably assumed you were a rarely-used secondary sock.

I couldn't see why anyone would bother to pull another ID out of the closet to say something so innocuous, so I asked why. You responded with a post that I now see represents your highest level of witty repartee.

You present an unappealing combination of ignorance and arrogance.

S_A_M

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i take that as a compliment buttmuch!

eta: merde! wrongfuckingsock!! merdefuckitall!!

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Hank! Hank Chinaski! It is you, after all!

Created a sock just so you could misspell insults, hmm?

S_A_M

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It's amusing that you call me ignorant when the entire premise of your original post had been previously discredited by Replaced Texan, in a thread in which you participated.
It's not a penske sock.
So, as I've suggested to you in the past, return to Infirm where you can just delete the socks who are willing to call bullshit on your pompous, bloviating posts.

Dick DeGuerin is DeLay's lawyer. In the last nationally reported criminal case that DeGuerin had he got a crazy multi-millionarie acquited from a murder charge. Said crazy multi-millionaire cut up the body and threw it into Galveston bay and DeGuerin still got him off.

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Actually, I think RT's post may have been referring to IronSteve. That was a period when I was on sabbatical and someone created a new sock that purported to be me, Penske, but was someone else.

OTOH, I think S_A_M may once have banned me from the DCBoard and I do hold that against him. Unless it was Mav, in which I case I apologise.

Carry on.

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Mmmmmm, ok.

Anyhoo, it's also worth noting that SAM's premise wasn't dependent on this adorable little ball of rage being a Penske sock. NTTAWWT.

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You're absolutely right. My God, I can't believe that I did not remember this post about you from three months ago. If you were offended by the implication that you're really not so memorable, I must humbly apologize.

Wait -- all RT's post said was that you were "not a penske sock." The premise of my original post remains intact.

You apparently pay a lot more attention to me than I do to you.

BTW -- nice use of "bloviating", new "Word of the Day" calendar?

[eta: BTW -- Did you really say that to me before? Under which ID? A courtesy link, please?]

S_A_M
:rolleyes:

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Aren't you conflicted out here?

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I don't think I banned anyone, but we did enforce a strict "no politics" rule, and were not photoshop friendly, which might have had the same effect.

S_A_M

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Okay, if you didn't ban me, I take it back, although I think the reason Mav banned me was related to the sock flamewar thing. NTTAWWT.

Well, without a body they couldn't really prove that the "victim" was dead.

Oh, and DeGuerin also represented KBH during her run in with Ronnie Earle.

He also represented David Koresh, another former client who didn't end up in jail.

(Acutally Durst, the cut up the neighbor guy, did go to jail for illegally carrying a fire arm across state lines and I think for jumping bail. He was found dressed as a woman in New Jersey trying to steal a chicken sandwich. That was a really, really weird case. Why everyone else was worried about Laci Peterson at the time, I'll never know.)

They found the body. Or parts of it. They couldn't find the head.

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No. The entire base of your defense rests on there not being any Penske socks.

"If they can't find the head, then the real killer's fled!!!"