Re: We are all Slave now.
 

Comey owns Trump’s win IMO. That was the game changer that appears to have caused Trump voters to think he could actually win and caused people on the fence to think she was actually as dirty as Trump argued. No Comey, no Trump.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

Really? Is that SEC’s position?

She didn’t vote for him, but a lot principled conservatives made the decision that Trump was the lesser of two evils. Are these people all exclusively acting on racist intent? Because that’s what you just said.

I assume your post was flippant, because even one with your frivolous views on these sorts of issues doesn’t believe there are no principled conservatives out there. Particularly when one posts here.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

John Stuart Mill on Trump voters:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvcxjxEWwAY_EKr.jpg

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

Smartest man on the board.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

Arguing with the Trump movement folks is arguing with an SO.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

qed

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

He won. There were lots of reasons why. We should be able to talk about them.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

I agree. But crying “he cheated” or asserting the win is illegitimate because Putin interfered is both factually inaccurate and mindless.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

They exist, they just don't matter in elections.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

I mean, people have been indicted for it, and more are likely going to be, so doesn't sounds so mindless to me.

At this point, we also know it's entirely accurate.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

If the win were illegitimate, he would not be President. It’s a W. Even if he collided with Putin, no votes were fixed.

Tricking a rube into voting for you has a name: Politics.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

This does not mean anything.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

I'm not sure who I disagree with more, Adder saying that conservatism is defined by prejudice or you arguing that it's anything but.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

I was too flip. These people:

Are also motivated by misogyny too. (Yes, that's a different kind of prejudice).

So we're clear, there are lots of principled conservatives who work in Washington and other "elite" places (by which I mean in jobs requiring an education) who just don't care about the racially disparate outcomes of their policy choices. They just don't represent conservative voters, who do care.

Re: We are all Slave now.
 

In the last seven decades, two presidencies have been arguably invalid: JFK and Bush 43’s first term. In those cases, credible claims of tampering existed. In both, the claims have been refuted with evidence. But still, these two are the only arguable claims.

There is no claim even asserted that Trump or the Russians changed votes. If you know anything about election machines, you know they’re not online. They can only be hacked by direct tinkering with the machines.

Trump’s alleged “fraud” is colluding with Russian disinformation operatives to skew public perception via social media. That’s politics. It may also be a violation of a law, but even that does not undo the win. The only thing that renders a win illegitimate is proof of tampering — throwing out ballots, having the dead vote, or changing votes from one candidate to another. That didn’t happen, as Trump’s own idiotic panel on mythical “voter fraud” demonstrated.