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Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2007 02:44 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
This is Newton v 3.0. Awesome.
http://media.macrumorslive.com/p/1168366330-thumb.jpg

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 02:46 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
http://media.macrumorslive.com/p/1168366330-thumb.jpg
How big is the HDD on this thing?

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 02:47 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
How big is the HDD on this thing?
5 hours of battery of talk time, video, and browsing. 16 hours of audio playback

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 02:48 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
5 hours of battery of talk time, video, and browsing. 16 hours of audio playback
$499?

Not unreasonable...

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2007 02:48 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
How big is the HDD on this thing?
8GB model - $599
4GB model - $499

available June. With cingular, I would guess $200 discount for a two-year contract.

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 02:49 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
8GB model - $599
4GB model - $499
Again, not unreasonable. It must use flash, as opposed to a HDD.

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 02:50 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Again, not unreasonable. It must use flash, as opposed to a HDD.
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Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2007 02:50 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Again, not unreasonable. It must use flash, as opposed to a HDD.
Right. Looks like a nano-type approach.

At one point they planned nanos with more capacity . . .

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 02:51 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Right. Looks like a nano-type approach.

At one point they planned nanos with more capacity . . .
Flash chips greater than 8GB are not that cheap yet. Hell, there's a ton of Stevenote to go. Maybe we'll get them yet.

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 02:52 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
8GB model - $599
4GB model - $499

available June. With cingular, I would guess $200 discount for a two-year contract.
Nope: prices include 2 year contract.

Will be branded ATT

Exclusive will apparently be multi-year.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2007 02:55 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Nope: prices include 2 year contract.

Will be branded ATT
Ouch. I can see how you arrive at the price point: Pearl + Nano=~$500. But still . . . (then again, my 15GB iPod (3G) was $400 . . . )

Especially with the $50/mo data plan you'll need to take full advantage. Talk about revenue streams--each unit is ~$3000 or revenue over two years for cingular.

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 02:57 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Ouch. I can see how you arrive at the price point: Pearl + Nano=~$500. But still . . . (then again, my 15GB iPod (3G) was $400 . . . )

Especially with the $50/mo data plan you'll need to take full advantage. Talk about revenue streams--each unit is ~$3000 or revenue over two years for cingular.
Terrific business model...

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 02:59 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Ouch. I can see how you arrive at the price point: Pearl + Nano=~$500. But still . . . (then again, my 15GB iPod (3G) was $400 . . . )

Especially with the $50/mo data plan you'll need to take full advantage. Talk about revenue streams--each unit is ~$3000 or revenue over two years for cingular.
BTW, I bet Cingy rolls out a iPhone specific data plan that is ~$30. BIS costs $30, I see no way they go more expensive for this device.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2007 03:23 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Terrific business model...
Does all of the Beatles music during the keynote suggest that the Beatles will be on iTunes?

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 03:24 PM

New base station as well
 
Got lost in the hype. Nice specs, though.

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 03:27 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Does all of the Beatles music during the keynote suggest that the Beatles will be on iTunes?
That's been in the works for quite some time, and became an inevitability when Apple Inc. and Apple records settled their dispute.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2007 03:29 PM

New base station as well
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Got lost in the hype. Nice specs, though.
Goodbye NAS?
  • Now you can share an external USB hard drive over your wireless and wired network by simply connecting it to the USB port on your AirPort Extreme Base Station. Called AirPort Disk, it's perfect for sharing files, making backups, and more. You can even connect multiple drives and printers using a USB hub.

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 03:32 PM

New base station as well
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Goodbye NAS?
  • Now you can share an external USB hard drive over your wireless and wired network by simply connecting it to the USB port on your AirPort Extreme Base Station. Called AirPort Disk, it's perfect for sharing files, making backups, and more. You can even connect multiple drives and printers using a USB hub.

Right, it becomes unnecessary.

pony_trekker 01-09-2007 03:50 PM

New base station as well
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Right, it becomes unnecessary.
Minor point. You always could have attached an external HD to any computer on the network and access it from any other computer on the network.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2007 04:05 PM

New base station as well
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Minor point. You always could have attached an external HD to any computer on the network and access it from any other computer on the network.
Sure, as long as that computer is on (and on the network). This is better, because you can leave a bunch of stuff on the network that's always there.

pony_trekker 01-09-2007 04:33 PM

New base station as well
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Sure, as long as that computer is on (and on the network). This is better, because you can leave a bunch of stuff on the network that's always there.
I tried hooking a few printers up to a USB hub connected to my airport extreme which is hard wired to my PC, but for some reason had no success. I cannot remember why.

Replaced_Texan 01-09-2007 04:46 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
BTW, I bet Cingy rolls out a iPhone specific data plan that is ~$30. BIS costs $30, I see no way they go more expensive for this device.
Heh:
Quote:

my feelings on this subject can best be expressed in haiku form:

the apple iphone -
i wet myself all over.
i'd have its babies.
I believe geek productivity ground to a screeching halt about three hours ago.

Penske_Account 01-09-2007 05:18 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Heh:

I believe geek productivity ground to a screeching halt about three hours ago.
I am confused, do I toss thr Treo 700 and foregoe the 750 for an iPhone? Please advise?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2007 05:32 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am confused, do I toss thr Treo 700 and foregoe the 750 for an iPhone? Please advise?
You're a partner. You're buying them for us, too.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2007 05:33 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Heh:

I believe geek productivity ground to a screeching halt about three hours ago.
Indeed. Although with all the slick graphics, I'm quite concerned that Cingular and the wireless web will not really be up to the task of all that sweetness.

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 05:38 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Indeed. Although with all the slick graphics, I'm quite concerned that Cingular and the wireless web will not really be up to the task of all that sweetness.
I'm a cing subscriber, and I routinely surf the web on my powerbook tethered to my Pearl via Bluetooth. While it's not broadband-fast, it's not bad for a wireless conenction.

pony_trekker 01-09-2007 06:10 PM

Macworld Keynote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
I'm a cing subscriber, and I routinely surf the web on my powerbook tethered to my Pearl via Bluetooth. While it's not broadband-fast, it's not bad for a wireless conenction.
Who is the big loser in all this? Verizon.

CDMA

Complete Dinosaur Mobile Architecture

Alex_de_Large 01-09-2007 06:41 PM

iPhone
 
Size comparison: moto Q v. iPhone v. treo 750 v. Pearl

pony_trekker 01-09-2007 09:47 PM

HDTVs
 
What are the effective differences between a Plasma and an LCD HDTV?

pony_trekker 01-10-2007 07:48 AM

HDTVs
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pony_trekker
What are the effective differences between a Plasma and an LCD HDTV?
Never mind

NotFromHere 01-10-2007 01:25 PM

HDTVs
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pony_trekker
What are the effective differences between a Plasma and an LCD HDTV?
The only thing LCDs are good for are computer monitors and cell phone screens.

notcasesensitive 01-10-2007 01:52 PM

HDTVs
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
The only thing LCDs are good for are computer monitors and cell phone screens.
We've really liked our Aquos LCD. Our main decision point was size though when we were tv shopping a couple of years ago. Our living room set up just isn't large tv friendly. Since we were looking in the 30-35" range, it was no contest. Also, as pony's link points out, LCD's are better if you are doing any daytime viewing (like, for example, watching football on a Sunday afternoon in a room with big windows). Better contrast for that sort of viewing.

Plasmas might be better if you are talking about a media room sort of experience though.

Alex_de_Large 01-10-2007 01:59 PM

HDTVs
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
We've really liked our Aquos LCD. Our main decision point was size though when we were tv shopping a couple of years ago. Our living room set up just isn't large tv friendly. Since we were looking in the 30-35" range, it was no contest. Also, as pony's link points out, LCD's are better if you are doing any daytime viewing (like, for example, watching football on a Sunday afternoon in a room with big windows). Better contrast for that sort of viewing.

Plasmas might be better if you are talking about a media room sort of experience though.
2. We have a 30" Samsung LCD HDTV and it's terrific. Plasma wasn't even an option.

NotFromHere 01-10-2007 02:21 PM

HDTVs
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
We've really liked our Aquos LCD. Our main decision point was size though when we were tv shopping a couple of years ago. Our living room set up just isn't large tv friendly. Since we were looking in the 30-35" range, it was no contest. Also, as pony's link points out, LCD's are better if you are doing any daytime viewing (like, for example, watching football on a Sunday afternoon in a room with big windows). Better contrast for that sort of viewing.

Plasmas might be better if you are talking about a media room sort of experience though.
Pony's article says nothing about color purity, black level, ghosting, fast motion or screen door effect.
But whatever. My plasma is just fine for daytime football.

Tyrone Slothrop 01-11-2007 02:13 PM

Mac or PC?
 
Allchin says Mac.

Replaced_Texan 01-11-2007 04:04 PM

Free iPhone!

ltl/fb 01-11-2007 06:17 PM

Query
 
Should I give my old computer to some UCLA student? It feels slightly icky because I have slept with him, but on the other hand, I was just going to send it back for recycling anyway.

Whichever one I do, I need to wipe the hard drive, yes? How do I do that? I will google, but I trust some of you to have an informed opinion on this.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-11-2007 06:55 PM

Query
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Should I give my old computer to some UCLA student? It feels slightly icky because I have slept with him, but on the other hand, I was just going to send it back for recycling anyway.

Whichever one I do, I need to wipe the hard drive, yes? How do I do that? I will google, but I trust some of you to have an informed opinion on this.
definitely wipe the harddrive. Since you slept with him, I would go for the multiple-wipe option.

Flinty_McFlint 01-11-2007 07:01 PM

Query
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Should I give my old computer to some UCLA student? It feels slightly icky because I have slept with him, but on the other hand, I was just going to send it back for recycling anyway.

Whichever one I do, I need to wipe the hard drive, yes? How do I do that? I will google, but I trust some of you to have an informed opinion on this.
Man. Prices really have gone up.

ltl/fb 01-11-2007 08:41 PM

Query
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
definitely wipe the harddrive. Since you slept with him, I would go for the multiple-wipe option.
Why? He's already got whatever I've got.


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