ThurgreedMarshall |
12-09-2003 03:41 PM |
Yes, sad news for slave
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Originally posted by Not Bob
About Roger retiring? Uh, he sort of said that during the World Series, didn't he? I guess he could unretire. That's why I said they lost him "probably." As to Pettite, I thought that it was general knowledge that he was headed for Houston, though again, he hasn't signed yet, so I also said "probably" as to him.
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I wasn't referring to Roger (but of course you knew that).
It's common knowledge that Pettitte is going to Houston? I don't think so. We made him an offer that's $3 million over the Houston offer and it's a preliminary offer. He's waiting to see if we up it (which I'm sure we will if we don't land one other big-time pitcher). I haven't seen it written anywhere that it was even close to probable that he would walk away from the Yankees for less money. I've seen articles saying that his wife is pressuring him to move back, but that's about it.
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Originally posted by Not Bob
Growing up, I was a Mets and Red Sox fan.
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What did you do in '86? Who did you cheer for? That should answer all questions (and don't say "the Bears").
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Anyway, I like Joe Torre. I like the way the Yankees have never had goofy uniforms, and how they honor their traditions. I like Yogi Berra. I like Mickey Mantle, and Whitey Ford, and I loved "61*" and Joe Dimaggio and Mr. Coffee, and all that. I just like to see them stumble a bit every so often. Being a Yankee fan when they are up is like rooting for the Empire in Star Wars, or Santa Anna in "The Alamo" (the version with John Wayne as Davy Crockett, natch). Were you rooting for them between 1981 and 1995?
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It was a very, very painful time, especially '81 and '86. And when Mattingly guaranteed a pennant if we signed Jack Clark before the '88 season -- only to have him hit like 240 or something with less than 100 rbi -- I was very disappointed. Finished fucking 5th.
Steinbrenner spent like a fiend, but was an idiot and never built anything back then. But I was a die-hard fan anyway. And my favorite sports memory (before game 7 against the sox this year) was going to the last Yankee game of the season in '84 when the batting title was still up in the air and Mattingly beat out Winfield, going 4 for 5 (even though I was rooting for Winfield). This was back when you could sneak down to the good seats in the later innings and the ushers didn't care. That's when I used to know every stat for every player on the team and would get to the stadium early, glove in hand, hoping for a batting practice ball.
Was I rooting for them in the lean times? Hell yeah.
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Originally posted by Not Bob
Keep telling yourself that [the Yanks doing really care about the Matsui signing], spanky. And it didn't hurt to lose the Series to the Fish the way you did because y'all beat the Sox, right? Please. Would we celebrate the Miracle on Ice if the Finns (or Swedes or whoever) beat us after we crushed those Commie bastards at Lake Placid? I think not.
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I don't see how one thing follows another. I didn't care that much about Kaz Matsui because I didn't know a damn thing about him. I think most of New York felt this way. And he certainly wasn't anywhere near a priority. He would have been a second baseman. I think I prefer giving Soriano a little more time to grow and develop before shipping him to the outfield. And I guarantee you Soriano puts up bigger numbers in every category (except fielding percentage) next year. I can't speak to how Steinbrenner felt about "losing" him to the Mets. He was probably pissed. But that's no surprise.
As for losing to the Marlins, yeah it hurt. But there was tremendous satisfaction taken from stomping on the Red Sox's heads again. I was at the game and it was like nothing I've ever experienced. Would I have liked for the Yanks to win the World Series? Of course. But I'm not going to lose sleep over it. We still have plenty of rings, the Red Sox (although looking strong) are still cursed and the Yankees are still the team to beat in MLB.
All is right with the world.
TM
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