I don't get the bid deal.
 

I already took responsibility for all that stuff. Why do you keep harping about it? Move on.

Exclusionary Rule
 

Set up a system used by every other civilized country whereby if the cops infringe on your rights there is some way to receive compensation from the police or the government.

If the cops screw up, the victim of the crime should not be penalized. The idea that probative evidence would be thrown out really only punishes the victim and not the police.

England doesn't have the exclusionary rule yet I have never heard that defendants rights are abused all the time or that their system is completely unfair.

Our system does not put enough focus on the truth.

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I agree with this as a general rule, but what about crimes where there are no "victims"? And believe me, I am all for law enforcement, but I've seen the police pull some pretty egregious shit simply because they are either too lazy to conduct a proper investigation, or they can't be bothered to get a warrant.

Exclusionary Rule
 

So if the cops search your house for pot unlawfully you get off, but if they search it for a murder weapon, you have only an action at damages?

IF the crime is victimless, why even make it a crime?

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I didn't say it was workable, but I understand his point, at least in the abstract.

Excellent. Under this reasoning, can we abolish speed limits too?

Too funny! I saw the picture on the front page of the Washington Times this morning of Bush, Bolton and Rice at the U.N. where Bush is siting in front with his hand raised (presumably voting).

My thought on seeing the picture was that it looked like a high school student seeking permission to go to the John. Everything about his posture and expression said -- "Boy, this class sucks."

S_A_M

I don't get the bid deal.
 

Plus, Bush's fine leadership has also inspired Blanco to accept responsibility for screw-ups at the State level. She is far more likely to actually be held accountable.

S_A_M

I don't get the bid deal.
 

Bush Went For A Wank While New Orleans Sank.

Exclusionary Rule
 

Under that definition of "victimless" we could eliminate all attempted crimes.

Are there victimless crimes other than illicit drug use?

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Of course, the Brits have been bending over and taking it from authority for nearly 1000 years.

Exclusionary Rule
 

How about attempted rape by Ironweed, given his erectile problems?

Exclusionary Rule
 

Public Intoxication? Unless having to be around annoying drunk people constitutes harm. In which case, I should sue Barney's Beanery.

I know, similar to illicit drug use.

Exclusionary Rule
 

Presumably more harm than private intoxication, which is not a crime.

If I have to be more clear, I might say that illicit drug use not in public is a victimless crime.

I guess another one is sodomy and other immoral sexual acts, at least when involving consenting adults (adult humans, penske). Again, though, not so much if it's in public (whether immoral or not).

Exclusionary Rule
 

Sometimes those "immoral sexual acts" disturb ABBA's neighbors.

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There are noise laws. Nothing against them.