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Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-24-2015 12:16 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 497058)
I'm sorry, Wonk.

In other news, Plymouth Gin works well in both a Tom Collins and the old reliable G&T (with a lemon - not lime - wedge).

Also, "The Last Hurrah" is better as a book, but John Ford made a pretty good movie out of it, starring Spencer Tracy as Frank Skeffington. Thanks, TMC on demand.

Finally, I recently discovered that "The Rockford Files" is on Netflix. I only wish I was half as cool as my avatar.

Carry on.

Gimlet > Tom Collins

You're welcome.

Not Bob 07-24-2015 01:14 PM

Re: Not with a bag but with a whimper.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497061)
don't ask me, ask Jim Rockford.

Although the labels are doctored (as the networks were wont to do during that era), it appears that Jim Rockford was a fan of The King of Beers.

As discussed many times here, I am also a fan of mass-market American pilsner.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZT0PUA14ll...00/Budman3.png

taxwonk 07-24-2015 01:32 PM

Re: Not with a bag but with a whimper.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 497058)
I'm sorry, Wonk.

In other news, Plymouth Gin works well in both a Tom Collins and the old reliable G&T (with a lemon - not lime - wedge).

Also, "The Last Hurrah" is better as a book, but John Ford made a pretty good movie out of it, starring Spencer Tracy as Frank Skeffington. Thanks, TMC on demand.

Finally, I recently discovered that "The Rockford Files" is on Netflix. I only wish I was half as cool as my avatar.

Carry on.

Yes, Plymouth, the gin of choice for Travis McGee. It's good to see it back.

Not familiar with The Last Hurrah, but I'll try giving it a read. And Rockford may be what finally gets me to cave and subscribe to Netflix.

taxwonk 07-24-2015 01:37 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497062)
Gimlet > Tom Collins

You're welcome.

Depends on the time of day, the time of ear, and the occasion. A cocktail hour with clients or colleagues is perfect for a gimlet. Sitting out on the deck with a cool breeze coming across the marsh and the sun blazing overhead, Tom Collins or G&T is the way to go.

For those "my baby done left me" moments, or those "I left my heart on the train from the Peninsula" moments, only a martini will do.

Tyrone Slothrop 07-24-2015 02:07 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 497065)
Depends on the time of day, the time of ear, and the occasion. A cocktail hour with clients or colleagues is perfect for a gimlet. Sitting out on the deck with a cool breeze coming across the marsh and the sun blazing overhead, Tom Collins or G&T is the way to go.

For those "my baby done left me" moments, or those "I left my heart on the train from the Peninsula" moments, only a martini will do.

I am just a big fan of gin & tonics lately. And also akvavit, but I'm odd that way.

ferrets_bueller 07-24-2015 03:01 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
This is gin season. A gin and tonic is perfect from now until October. And there are more excellent gins now than ever. There is no need to discuss anything you can get in the large bottles, since you've all had those. In order of preference:

The Botanist. From Islay. Crisp, clean, notable botanicals but still simple; the best.

Old Raj Blue Label. Navy strength, golden tint. Powerful. Use less in each drink, and have more drinks.

Ransom. A dark and musky gin. Old style.

Pymouth, mentioned above by Not Bob, is a classic.

I can't recommend Hendrick's; I just think the cucumber overpowers everything. I'm not a fan of Greenhook from Brooklyn, or Leopold's, but others whose opinion I respect enjoy them.

Gin and tonics are apparently the national cocktail of Spain, and I've tried using bitters, coriander, and other stuff, like our Spanish friends do, but I always come back to gin, tonic, and a little lime. Summer refreshment with a nice kick.

Pretty Little Flower 07-24-2015 03:11 PM

Re: Not with a bag but with a whimper.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 497063)
Although the labels are doctored (as the networks were wont to do during that era), it appears that Jim Rockford was a fan of The King of Beers.

As discussed many times here, I am also a fan of mass-market American pilsner.

I know there is technically a difference between Bud and Bud Light, but whatever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4p8LylVs_g

Pretty Little Flower 07-24-2015 03:15 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
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Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller (Post 497067)
This is gin season. A gin and tonic is perfect from now until October. And there are more excellent gins now than ever. There is no need to discuss anything you can get in the large bottles, since you've all had those. In order of preference:

The Botanist. From Islay. Crisp, clean, notable botanicals but still simple; the best.

Old Raj Blue Label. Navy strength, golden tint. Powerful. Use less in each drink, and have more drinks.

Ransom. A dark and musky gin. Old style.

Pymouth, mentioned above by Not Bob, is a classic.

I can't recommend Hendrick's; I just think the cucumber overpowers everything. I'm not a fan of Greenhook from Brooklyn, or Leopold's, but others whose opinion I respect enjoy them.

Gin and tonics are apparently the national cocktail of Spain, and I've tried using bitters, coriander, and other stuff, like our Spanish friends do, but I always come back to gin, tonic, and a little lime. Summer refreshment with a nice kick.

There is a gin season. It starts on New Year's Day and end's with the ball drop on Times Square. You don't like gin and tonics after October? That's why god invented the martini.

ferrets_bueller 07-24-2015 03:27 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
Columbus Day marks the seasonal shifts for me. Whites and rose' to pinot noir. Gin and tonics to scotch, bourbon, and calvados. Corona to IPAs.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-24-2015 03:33 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 497066)
I am just a big fan of gin & tonics lately. And also akvavit, but I'm odd that way.

I can still taste the akvavit from my trip to Norway a year or so ago. The night we did the big dinner with one of the producers guiding us through, the first dozen tasted fine, but by the end of the second dozen I was less of a fan.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-24-2015 03:35 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 497065)
Depends on the time of day, the time of ear, and the occasion. A cocktail hour with clients or colleagues is perfect for a gimlet. Sitting out on the deck with a cool breeze coming across the marsh and the sun blazing overhead, Tom Collins or G&T is the way to go.

For those "my baby done left me" moments, or those "I left my heart on the train from the Peninsula" moments, only a martini will do.

Makes me glad I don't drink martinis.

Adder 07-24-2015 03:38 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller (Post 497070)
Columbus Day marks the seasonal shifts for me. Whites and rose' to pinot noir. Gin and tonics to scotch, bourbon, and calvados. Corona to IPAs.

I struggling with the season reasoning that would lead one to regularly drink Corona other than while immediately adjacent to water.

Then again, I mostly reject seasons rationing of beverages. Bourbon's good in the summer too. Rose can be nice in the winter. Why do we have to have rules about everything?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-24-2015 03:42 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller (Post 497067)
Gin and tonics are apparently the national cocktail of Spain, and I've tried using bitters, coriander, and other stuff, like our Spanish friends do, but I always come back to gin, tonic, and a little lime. Summer refreshment with a nice kick.

If anywhere in the Iberian peninsula, the stuff to drink in summer is chilled white port. A few places have started bringing it in over here, but it is indeed the finest drink around for the summer heat.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-24-2015 03:44 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 497073)
I struggling with the season reasoning that would lead one to regularly drink Corona other than while immediately adjacent to water.

Then again, I mostly reject seasons rationing of beverages. Bourbon's good in the summer too. Rose can be nice in the winter. Why do we have to have rules about everything?

Rose is proof that the French are just trolling us with their food and drink snobbery. That's wine worthy of upstate New York's finest vineyards.

ferrets_bueller 07-24-2015 03:51 PM

Re: Though Raymond Chandler made a mediocre gimlet
 
I don't disagree with your first paragraph at all; Mrs. Bueller and I make a pilgrimage to the Outer Banks every October. Corona seems like a natural.

As to the second point, these aren't rules at all. They're guidelines. I like the idea of changing things up, and a seasonal switch is as good a reason as any.

On GGG's point about clear beverages: I get to China, on average, once a year for the last ten years. Mou Tai is the national hootch of China. It is used in a game called Get the Westerner Drunk, which the Westerner usually doesn't realize he is playing. The taste is gasoline, but with a longer aftertaste. Toasts are performed which require one to down a shot of the stuff frequently if you are the guest of honor. Hand to God true story: I was given a free trip to Hohhot Inner Mongolia for drinking my host into oblivion. The forty pounds I've put on since my athletic days was a big help.


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