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Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 02-22-2022 10:12 AM

Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 532432)
I can't think of a single doc other than a derm (who is killing it) who would do it again. Two I know got MBAs to go into the mgmt side, and two others I know left completely for finance gigs in pharma and biotech sectors.

Lawyers make more than most GPs I know.

I work with docs in my practice every day and almost all of them profess great love for it. Of course, most of my docs are at academic medical centers, they're very smart, and they went into it as much to do good as to do well. In my own family, the docs who are less happy are inevitably the money grubbers, but they'll never be satisfied (in any profession, really).

You know, it is pretty easy to get data on lawyer and doctor incomes and if you looked you'd find out that you are way off on across the professional averages. The average physician makes north of $200K, while the average attorney is around $150K. Obviously, in both groups, it's possible to identify a subgroup that would scoff at that figure.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 02-22-2022 10:23 AM

Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 532432)
I can't think of a single doc other than a derm (who is killing it) who would do it again. Two I know got MBAs to go into the mgmt side, and two others I know left completely for finance gigs in pharma and biotech sectors.

Lawyers make more than most GPs I know.

The best path is to become a judge for 10 years, retire, and then charge $1000/hour for mediations.

sebastian_dangerfield 02-22-2022 11:26 AM

Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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I work with docs in my practice every day and almost all of them profess great love for it. Of course, most of my docs are at academic medical centers, they're very smart, and they went into it as much to do good as to do well. In my own family, the docs who are less happy are inevitably the money grubbers, but they'll never be satisfied (in any profession, really).
Most in my family (immediate and extended) and those in my social circle and clients don't dislike the work so much. It's the administration. Most of those I know work for large hospital systems and are pressured to see enormous numbers of patients by both management and due to supply and demand.

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You know, it is pretty easy to get data on lawyer and doctor incomes and if you looked you'd find out that you are way off on across the professional averages. The average physician makes north of $200K, while the average attorney is around $150K. Obviously, in both groups, it's possible to identify a subgroup that would scoff at that figure.
I know loads of lawyers pulling in well over $200k. GPs in this region are, as you note, around $200k. Law is more a parabolic distribution, however. If you eliminate the lawyers who have crappy jobs, and those working in local DA offices, etc. from the data set, that $150k moves north pretty quickly.

I think there's a lot more compression among GPs once one is around the $200k mark. An even generalist lawyer who stumbles upon the right referral fee or gets an equity slice of a deal can achieve windfalls a GP will never see.

Having docs who've saved and improved many lives in my family and circle of friends, this illustrates the perverse outcomes of our distorted market economy. No paper pusher should be paid better than a GP.

sebastian_dangerfield 02-22-2022 11:36 AM

Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 532435)
The best path is to become a judge for 10 years, retire, and then charge $1000/hour for mediations.

I know one of those. It does seem easy. But being a state judge would suck. The politics, the constant need to behave appropriately. Seems lonely, isolated.

Being a fed judge seems a lot cooler. But even then, you're thinking about legal crap all the time, being careful to avoid appealable errors, playing ref in an adversarial situation.

I think the #winning circle are those dudes who go to work for a client and get a piece of equity in deals. Some of those guys go from being a billing machine to being FU rich. And they don't seem to be brainiacs. More opportunist types who lucked into a good risk and took it.

Icky Thump 02-22-2022 11:54 AM

Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 532435)
The best path is to become a judge for 10 years, retire, and then charge $1000/hour for mediations.

The best path is to become a plaintiff's lawyer who signs up cases.

True story, Icky had a case very early on which wound up with him suing a company that hadn't been sued before. Turns out this company had a very icky past. They paid Icky's client a lot of money. Client died, spouse got an estate lawyer who had the client sign a retainer that included a percentage. When spouse talked to Icky, she realize her rice too wet she fuck up. She fired the lawyer.

That estate lawyer stopped doing estates after that and went into the business of signing up these types of cases. The estate lawyer could now buy Axe Capital using em's couch change.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 02-22-2022 12:50 PM

Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 532438)
The best path is to become a plaintiff's lawyer who signs up cases.

True story, Icky had a case very early on which wound up with him suing a company that hadn't been sued before. Turns out this company had a very icky past. They paid Icky's client a lot of money. Client died, spouse got an estate lawyer who had the client sign a retainer that included a percentage. When spouse talked to Icky, she realize her rice too wet she fuck up. She fired the lawyer.

That estate lawyer stopped doing estates after that and went into the business of signing up these types of cases. The estate lawyer could now buy Axe Capital using em's couch change.

I'm crushing it on Onlyfans. Huge market for 46 yr old dad bods.

Replaced_Texan 02-22-2022 05:49 PM

Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 532434)
I work with docs in my practice every day and almost all of them profess great love for it. Of course, most of my docs are at academic medical centers, they're very smart, and they went into it as much to do good as to do well. In my own family, the docs who are less happy are inevitably the money grubbers, but they'll never be satisfied (in any profession, really).

You know, it is pretty easy to get data on lawyer and doctor incomes and if you looked you'd find out that you are way off on across the professional averages. The average physician makes north of $200K, while the average attorney is around $150K. Obviously, in both groups, it's possible to identify a subgroup that would scoff at that figure.

Same, but I'm also in academic medical centers. Some practice areas are stronger than others, and I've seen a lot of movement toward telemedicine. We haven't had too many departures, but we're a really good gig.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 02-22-2022 05:58 PM

Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 532440)
Same, but I'm also in academic medical centers. Some practice areas are stronger than others, and I've seen a lot of movement toward telemedicine. We haven't had too many departures, but we're a really good gig.

I love telemedicine. Soooo much can be done by zoom, about half my appointments are now zooms. I think a lot of docs really like it, too.

Pretty Little Flower 02-23-2022 10:26 AM

Song of the Day
 
The enthusiastic crowd reaction to Gladys Knight & the Pips got me thinking about other notably enthusiastic crowds, and one of the best is on Cannonball Adderly’s album “Mercy, Mercy, Mercy - Live at ‘The Club’.” The entire album is great, and solos on the track “Sticks” are so intense and breathtaking, and the crowd is so electrified that you can almost see them standing, clapping, shouting. But for the SOTD, I’m going to go with the more popular, more laid back title track, “Mercy. Mercy. Mercy.” Written by Josef Zawinul, the cunning Austrian keyboardist who later featured prominently on Miles’s “Bitches Brew” and later founded Weather Report, it has a groove that cannot be denied. Cannonball Adderly’s introductions to songs on live albums are great, but this is one of the best:

“You know, sometimes we're not prepared for adversity.
When it happens sometimes, we're caught short.
We don't know exactly how to handle it when it comes up.
Sometimes, we don't know just what to do when adversity takes over.
And I have advice for all of us, I got it from my pianist Joe Zawinul who wrote this tune.
And it sounds like what you're supposed to say when you have that kind of problem.
It's called mercy, mercy, mercy.”

Preach!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mYN0Tkoik

True story:

Live at “The Club” was not really a “live” album and was not recorded at “The Club.” The Club was a new club in Chicago owned by a friend of Cannonball Adderly, and Adderly wanted to give him some free publicity. But, I learned many years after first purchasing the album, after countless listens imagining how wild the atmosphere in The Club must have been that night, that the entire album was actually recorded in a sound studio in LA, with a bunch of Adderly’s friends and music industry folks who had been bribed to attend with an open bar in order to give it a live recording feel. When I first learned this, I was disappointed for about two seconds, feeling like this masterpiece of a live album was somehow inauthentic. But then I thought about how I would feel if I had been invited to watch Cannonball Adderly record one of the best albums of his storied career, and I was given free booze on top of it all. Well, god damn, I’d be going nuts too, and there would be nothing contrived about it.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 02-23-2022 10:29 AM

Re: Song of the Day
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 532442)
The enthusiastic crowd reaction to Gladys Knight & the Pips got me thinking about other notably enthusiastic crowds, and one of the best is on Cannonball Adderly’s album “Mercy, Mercy, Mercy - Live at ‘The Club’.” The entire album is great, and solos on the track “Sticks” are so intense and breathtaking, and the crowd is so electrified that you can almost see them standing, clapping, shouting. But for the SOTD, I’m going to go with the more popular, more laid back title track, “Mercy. Mercy. Mercy.” Written by Josef Zawinul, the cunning Austrian keyboardist who later featured prominently on Miles’s “Bitches Brew” and later founded Weather Report, it has a groove that cannot be denied. Cannonball Adderly’s introductions to songs on live albums are great, but this is one of the best:

“You know, sometimes we're not prepared for adversity.
When it happens sometimes, we're caught short.
We don't know exactly how to handle it when it comes up.
Sometimes, we don't know just what to do when adversity takes over.
And I have advice for all of us, I got it from my pianist Joe Zawinul who wrote this tune.
And it sounds like what you're supposed to say when you have that kind of problem.
It's called mercy, mercy, mercy.”

Preach!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mYN0Tkoik

True story:

Live at “The Club” was not really a “live” album and was not recorded at “The Club.” The Club was a new club in Chicago owned by a friend of Cannonball Adderly, and Adderly wanted to give him some free publicity. But, I learned many years after first purchasing the album, after countless listens imagining how wild the atmosphere in The Club must have been that night, that the entire album was actually recorded in a sound studio in LA, with a bunch of Adderly’s friends and music industry folks who had been bribed to attend with an open bar in order to give it a live recording feel. When I first learned this, I was disappointed for about two seconds, feeling like this masterpiece of a live album was somehow inauthentic. But then I thought about how I would feel if I had been invited to watch Cannonball Adderly record one of the best albums of his storied career, and I was given free booze on top of it all. Well, god damn, I’d be going nuts too, and there would be nothing contrived about it.

I will say I enjoyed the Gladys Knight and the Pippiest Pips. Got to see that movie.

Cannonball is an old favorite, I will look at that one when I don't have a call in 2 minutes.

Hank Chinaski 02-23-2022 11:01 AM

Re: Song of the Day
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 532442)
Written by Josef Zawinul, the cunning Austrian keyboardist ........

I'm Jewish.

Pretty Little Flower 02-23-2022 11:25 AM

Re: Song of the Day
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 532444)
I'm Jewish.

I’ll try to include some Klezmer as the SOTD pick one of these days.

Tyrone Slothrop 02-23-2022 05:01 PM

Re: Song of the Day
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 532445)
I’ll try to include some Klezmer as the SOTD pick one of these days.

Hank digs Matisyahu, I think.

King Without A Crown, live at Stubb's

Hank Chinaski 02-23-2022 10:58 PM

Re: Song of the Day
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 532446)
Hank digs Matisyahu, I think.

King Without A Crown, live at Stubb's

I’m punk. Here is Hasidic Hardcore!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TVlCahhogv8

Pretty Little Flower 02-24-2022 12:41 PM

Re: Song of the Day
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 532447)
I’m punk. Here is Hasidic Hardcore!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TVlCahhogv8

I kinda like the Hasidic Hardcore. And I have actually seen Matisyahu. But for today’s SOTD, I’m going to focus on another famous Jewish-American singer and songwriter, Lou Reed. Once I settled on Lou Reed, I knew I was going to choose something from Transformer, and was originally going with Andy’s Chest — a reference to the scar on Andy Warhol’s chest after he was shot by Valerie Solanas, the radical feminist behind the SCUM Manifesto. It is a great song, but I have to go with Satellite of Love. There are many things I love about this song—the finger snaps and crescendoing horns in the vamp, the weird little recorder solo, the fact that there’s a tuba. But it’s the backing vocals that really do it for me. First, there’s the Thunder Thighs, the back up singers who did the “Do Do Do” part of “Walk on the Wild Side.” And then there’s David Bowie! And he kills it. The falsetto on the descending arpeggios — “Bom bom bom.” The soaring high notes at the end. Good stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL2uvTvaHEA


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