Calling Penske Out
 

Did you ever hear of RT doing same? (aside from asshole drivers and motherfucking jackass tom delay)

I'm nice, damnit.

Calling Penske Out
 

Wow, thanks for the great advice, Hank!

I be sure to leave the such things to old skoolers like Paigow (Paigow's old skool?).

I understand my responsibilities as prince consort. I made my message confidential to Sidd. The fact that you and/or penske read it is a shocking (Shocking!) violation of the sanctity of the small italic type message. I feel like Phillip after the whole cell phone debacle.

Islam. A religion for throwing the bomb or 3 yards and a cloud of dust?
 

I'm sorry. I don't understand what you are saying here. The God Islam is the God of Abraham. The Muslims, like the Jews, don't believe God had a son.

Calling Penske Out
 

I was at lunch. Interesting that you were done with the conversation, yet you still feel the compulsion to post about me. Why the campaign of slander? Of hate? Its as if you are employing the tactics of hatred of Byrd or Carville. Why?

Calling Penske Out
 

Okay, so you believe that what God declares to be wrong is an absolute wrong. Can I then assume you are opposed to the war in Iraq?

Islam. A religion for throwing the bomb or 3 yards and a cloud of dust?
 

Seems to me, given how much his teachings are disregarded, some Christians don't either.

But She's Real Sorry About It.
 

Actually, I believe she killed someone in a car. Which is an attack, isn't it?

Calling Penske Out
 

1. If it makes you happy to think that I dislike you and think you are a racist, like Democratic Party Leader Byrd, that's fine. I will stipulate to that for you. I don't think it is what I really believe but you and Sidd want it to be so so badly that it's easier to stipulate than engage in this stupidity.

2. Absolute.

Calling Penske Out
 

The whole "confidential" post style is tired- and doubly so the "why did you read what I posted confidentially?"

Are you aiming to be a minor league Atticus?

Calling Penske Out
 

Isn't Bacon a democrat? You should be happy I am giving him tacit props.

Islam. A religion for throwing the bomb or 3 yards and a cloud of dust?
 

Some of my in-laws don't like that I'm not a Jew. When they come near me, so I worry they might blow us both up?

Calling Penske Out
 

You are a jack arse. Read your post and honestly assess the maturity level of the person who wrote. I give you the benefit of doubt of assuming you are bitter and you're projecting. If not, you have the maturity level of 8 year old. And to say reading the posts on an internet chatboard can give you stress is indicative of other psychoses I don't feel the need to dwell on. If you're serious, get help.

Calling Penske Out
 

Actually, we don't want you to stipulate to it. We want you to stop it.

Okay, if it was an absolute wrong for the US to return Elian to Cuba, then parents must not have any right to raise their children as they see fit?

Islam. A religion for throwing the bomb or 3 yards and a cloud of dust?
 

I thought we were all god's children, no? Why exclude Mohammed? Unless he was SAtan's spawn, yes?

Islam. A religion for throwing the bomb or 3 yards and a cloud of dust?
 

Are they from Oklahoma? Because that's where all the terrorists seem to come from.

Calling Penske Out
 

No.

Islam. A religion for throwing the bomb or 3 yards and a cloud of dust?
 

I don't tend to believe that someone's religion has anything to do with whether or not they are prone to throw bombs. It's the sort of activity that people of all faiths take part in.

But just in case, I would think about getting circumcised if you aren't already. And knock it off with the matzo brei mishegas, already, ngu?

Calling Penske Out
 

Can't we all just get along?

Calling Penske Out
 

2. The confidential post thing was why justice.com invented email for GA posters back in 2001. How lame to be living 4 years behind the curve.

Islam. A religion for throwing the bomb or 3 yards and a cloud of dust?
 

I believe that the statement that we are all God's children is a metaphor. But if you aren't taking it as a meatphor, then I would have to reply that God has chosen many imperfect prophets. Augustine... Moses... Perhaps he's just more forgiving than some of us here on Earth?

Calling Penske Out
 

But the very first of God's Commandments is Thou Shalt Not Kill. Therefore, wouldn't all killing, even in war, be an absolute wrong?

Check.

George Will on Miers
 

Word.

I know well a lady about that age who is just retiring after a very successful career as a litigator (product defense, mostly). She rose to lead a Practice Group and sit on the Board and Management Committee of a large law firm (Amlaw 250) here on the East Coast.

Her stories about some events while she was a summer associate in the early 1970s and a young litigator are just truly remarkable. (Not sexual assault -- just the way the firm and senior partners dealt with women.)

Our local bank (top 30 city by population) would not allow my mother to open her own individual checking account in the mid -1960s.

S_A_M

From the DLC. I thought this was interesting......
 

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THE NEW DEM DISPATCH, October 05, 2005
Political commentary & analysis from the DLC =============================================
[http://www.DLC.org ]

D.C.'s Charter Experiment: Mixed Grades, Great Promise


The Katrina recovery effort has sparked yet another Kabuki-theater- type debate in Congress about conservative efforts to divert public
money to subsidize private schools, as though that were the only
available alternative to keeping public schools exactly the way they
are.

Ironically, in the same city, there is an enormous experiment
underway to explore the potential of charter public schools --
schools that maintain the equal access and accountability for use of
taxpayer dollars characteristic of traditional public schools, while
appropriating much of the competitive quality and ability to
innovate characteristic of the best private schools.

About one-third of D.C. public school students now attend one of the
city's 52 charter schools -- far more than the percentage in any of
the 50 states. As an important new report from the Progressive
Policy Institute explains, we are beginning to learn a lot about
what to do and what not to do in making these and all other public
schools successful.

In Capital Campaign: Early Returns on D.C. Charter Schools, PPI
fellow Sara Mead outlines the tangled history of the D.C. charter
movement, but notes that Washington is exactly the kind of place
where charter schools can perform a critical function: a city with a
very troubled public school system, serving a heavily disadvantaged
student population.

Fortunately, charter schools in D.C. benefit from a strong legal
authorization, a relatively level "playing ground," and intense
interest from parents and students. As Mead notes, the District
gives charters a strong foundation because it "provides for multiple
authorizers; funds charter schools on an equitable basis with other
public schools; gives charter schools significant operational and
academic flexibility; and provides charter schools additional per- pupil facilities funding" -- all features often lacking in states
with a weaker commitment to public school choice, and all features
that have contributed to the remarkable growth of charter schools in
Washington.

In terms of initial performance in the decade since charter schools
first appeared in D.C., Mead reports that they have in fact on
average outperformed traditional public schools in all the standard
measurements of student achievement. But the variations in charter
school performance have been unusually wide, with a few "super- stars" such as Community Academy, the KIPP DC/KEY Academy, and SEED
Public Charter School (the nation's only public boarding school); a
variety of middle-of-the-pack performers; and nine schools that have
closed down, eight of them because their charters were revoked.

D.C.'s unusual dual-authorizer system has also produced variable
results and important lessons, with one authorizer taking a hands- off position and the other perhaps engaging in too much
micromanagement of schools. This illustrates the difficulty and the
importance of striking the right balance in charter school oversight
between the freedom to innovate and accountability for results.

Mead makes a number of recommendations for improving charter schools
in the District:

* Providing more help to charter schools in obtaining suitable
facilities, especially using excess space available in
traditional public schools;

* Closing more low-performance charter schools and providing a
smooth transition and new opportunities for their students;

* Focusing on raising the performance of "middle-of-the-pack"
schools;

* Clarifying the roles of charter school authorizers and more
closely monitoring the quality of their decisions;

* Improving data on charter school performance, and making it
more broadly useful and accessible;

* Integrating charter schools more systematically into overall
public school strategies for reform and better performance.

As Mead concludes: "The District of Columbia's charter school
movement is strong, despite growing pains." If it continues to make
strides in one of the toughest educational environments in the
country -- an environment that reflects America's most important
educational challenges -- then this little-known experiment in the
shadow of the Capitol can and should move into the front-lines of
national debate on how to build world-class schools.

George Will on Miers
 

I have heard, in addition to such stories about firms, stories about abominable treatment of women in law school in the early 70s, e.g., being required to stand up and state their LSAT scores as justification (or lack thereof) for their being present at the school; only being called on or permitted to ask questions in class on particular days, and the like.

George Will on Miers
 

For the love of God. What state do you live in?

Calling Penske Out
 

So in other words you want to motivate me to impose a prior restraint on my political speech because you don't like it? Interesting that this is what I see from the left generally a lot. I talk with people irl about politics with some frequency. People who make moveon.org members look rightwing. I would never say to them, I know you are going to criticise Bush and I know its going to be visceral emotional observations and vitriolic and I don't want to hear it because it makes me feel like you are saying those things about me. I listen to what they say. I may say, that's sort of fucked up, but I don't say don't say it. Why do you want to supress speech?

His natural rights trumped.

Calling Penske Out
 

Oh my. But why was his joke hurtful? Should not have been, even under the eggshell theory.

I speculate that Penske just has it in for Balt because Balt suggested that Penske's:

(a) vocal celebration of the deaths of left wingers and certain foreign people of color, and

(b) hyperbolic condemnation of certain broad groups of people (by politics, ethnicity and/or religion) might be honest expressions of his opinions and reflect motives that are less than pure.

I've actually enjoyed much of Penske's posting since he has stopped socking and become more coherent -- but the key is not to take a single word he says seriously if his post includes sentences with more than one adjective in a row.

S_A_M
[et change "three" to "one".]

George Will on Miers
 

It was in the State of Ohio.

S_A_M

George Will on Miers
 

Edit -- nevermind, I looked it up.

DING!
 

So you're saying the republicans are a majority party in name only? Because drop those RiNO Senators and even the nuclear option is unavailable.

While you're at it, you should drop the grand ol' part as well, because those are the roots, not the babyjesusloving southerners.

Islam. A religion for throwing the bomb or 3 yards and a cloud of dust?
 

Perhaps, which is why I try to be a beacon of understanding and foregiveness, following the ways of the babyjesi. Hating solely the sin and not the sinner.

DING!
 

Hmm... Lott is breaking ranks.

I wonder if the porch party is still on.

Calling Penske Out
 

So what if it is. Then God will be their judge. I am not saying we can't engage in absolute wrong, I am just saying call it what it is.

Calling Penske Out
 

But if they just want to engage in some good ol' fashion buttfucking, then letting God be their judge doesn't get the job done?

Calling Penske Out
 

When did I say that? I am pro-anal (hi uknowwho!).


eta: giving, not taking, nttawwt.

DING!
 

Sandy's going to be there a while.

Calling Penske Out
 

RiNO either way.

Calling Penske Out
 

What I want is for you to stop saying that anybody who disagrees with you is just as bad as a rapist and a murderer and a bigot. I want you to stop responding to everything by posting pictures of Byrd in a klan hood. I want you to discuss things like a grownup.


1. God say that Thou Shalt Honor thy Mother and Thy Father. Since Elian's mother was dead, it was absolutely Right that the wishes of Elian's father be honored.

2. When the wishes of a young child and a parent don't coincide, whose wishes must be honored?

Check.

DING!
 

It's easy to figure out. When Lott says:

I don't just automatically salute or take a deep bow anytime a nominee is sent up," he said. "I have to find out who these people are, and right now, I'm not satisfied with what I know. I'm not comfortable with the nomination, so we'll just have to work through the process in due time."

Lott said while Miers may be qualified, she is "clearly" not the most qualified person for the job.

Essentially that means, I am as smart or smarter than this lady and a Supreme Court nominee should impress me, big tyme, with their intellect. More than one commentator and Senator noted that Roberts' intellect obviously outclassed most, if not all, of the Senate. Jones, Luttig, McConnel, Alita, JRB etal, all possess that ability. Certainly on jurisprudence, no matter how much their staff is feeding them, those judges run circles around the likes of boneheads like Kennedy and Biden (and Lott too).

Even though I am back in the fold (hi Spanky!) this is an fawful nomination and I hope and pray to the babyjesuschristsuperstar that the Lott's and Brownback's of the world have the intestinal fortitude to deep six it. for history's sake.

Calling Penske Out
 

Ah, but Penske, that is exactly what you are saying. You say it all the time. You hate the Clintons because they have done wrong. You hate Ted Kennedy because he has done wrong. Same for Byrd and Michael Moore.

Are you actually now saying that Bush is a murderer as well, because he has commanded the killing of thousands of Afghans and Iraqis?

And what of your claimed love for the Second Amendment? If you are truly a devoted disciple of God and Jesus, then how can you express a wilingness to kill?

Is it because all of this is relative?

Checkmate?