Calling Penske Out
 

I don't say that anybody that disagrees with me is as bad a rapist and a murderer and a bigot. I say that a rapist and murderer and bigot lack the moral authority to govern and should be called out on that (eg: Ted Kennedy lacks the moral authority to question a supreme court judge, the only judge he should be talking to is the one he begs for mercy before being sent to prison). I also express dismay at a society that allows such criminals to exercise abusive authority over the people. There is a problem with our collective moral compass when as a nation we can't collectively recognise that violating a federal statute and impeding the prosecution of justice by perjuring oneself in a federal court case is wrong. Unqualifiedly, absolutely wrong.

I don't respond to everything with a picture of Byrd in a klan hood. I have probably posted 40 times today and only posted a picture of Byrd once. However, I reserve the right to post that picture because it speaks loudly of the lack of moral compass and understanding of basic right and wrong at the top levels of the DNC. The man is a disguised racist. For anyone to call Bill bennett out for an intellectually provocative, albeit non-pc, hypothetical, when the Dems are touting Byrd as their conscience is the height of hypocrasy. Bennet's hypo is what it is, some words. Byrd is man who rode sidesaddle on lynchings and now he steals our hard earned dollars for his pork in WVA while practising his latent racism. that's fucked up. Get rid of him, then talk about Bennet. Get rid of the institutional racism in most Democrat party cities' urban police departments, then talk about Bennet.

I'm not just talking phottoshoppe, that pic is worth 1000 words, including hyprocrite and hypocrasy!

And grown ups use pictures to make points. I cite Ross Perot, he had lots of neat charts and graphs and stuff, and he was a grown up, albeit short. Are anti-short?

The child's. We are all god's children. I honour that father before I do a dangerous evil oppressive earthly one. Elain's dad was probably an agent of satan, or at least deluded by Satan's minions. Fidel. And Janet.

Calling Penske Out
 

Leviticus 11:44 forbids eating non-kosher maggots. I will never eat a non-kosher maggot.

Calling Penske Out
 

I'm saying call out the sinners. and hate their sin.

I am not expresssing a willingness to kill. The gun is a deterrent. So far in cases where it has come up, just pulling the 9MM has ended the potential for any further progression of events.

Calling Penske Out
 

Ah, ah, ah. You're practicing moral relativism. And you're doing it in the name of a state's right to interfere with the natural rights of parents to raise their children.

I'm going home now. You can admit that I have you in checkmate, or we can pick up again tomorrow. In case you're having trouble keeping score:

1. You have yet to offer any support for the notion that your God is absolutely superior than any other God. Absolute faith is nothing more than moral relativism in the absence of proof that God exists and that God is the only true God.

2. You lost on the notion that to kill is an absolute wrong. Merely claiming that it is for God to judge is a concession you've been blocked.

3. You have taken the position that it is okay for the state to run roughshod over the family bond. And you couldn't even offer a token defense for your position.

Sleep well, friend.

George Will on Miers
 

I worked for a woman who was one of two or three in her law school class (in the 50s or 60s I think -- this was a long time ago). The prof would call on people in succession, based on where they sat -- so, moving one by one down the row of desks.

But he would skip over the women.


(To counter this blatant sexism on a grander, cosmic scale, when I taught a law school class I made sure to call on the women a lot, especially if they had nice tits.)

Calling Penske Out
 

Let me guess -- instead you say "you are a Dim and therefore have no right to criticize anyone, let me prove it to you by showing you my photoshop collection."

Calling Penske Out
 

Yep. You do. All the time.


Gosh. We're so proud. You only posted that picture once today!


So, although I think Byrd is a piece of shit, I am not allowed to say anything about Bennett, because, well, Byrd.


I'll be sure to vote against Byrd next time around.


Okay, now I also need to reform a bunch of police depts -- in Dem cities only, of course, because we know that while all Dems (sorry, Dims) are racist, we know from the Gospel of Penske that no Repubs are -- before I can say "Bennett is an asshole." Got it.

The prior restraints that you bitch about are perfectly appropriate when applied to "Dims", I suppose.




He managed to change the charts every once in awhile. And he managed to use them to further discussion, not to shut it down.


Once again, are you even willing to consider the possibility that maybe the problem is the way you express yourself, and not the supposed failure of several people to understand you?

Calling Penske Out
 

U2.

eta: stay away from the kool aid

Calling Penske Out
 

Wrong. But I do have Byrd's klansman pic on my phone. And the pic from the adult board with Hillary stroking Saddam and Bin laden. Those are good to flash if I went to end the convo, like if the liberal I am talking wiht has B.O. or stank breath or something. What's up with the lo-grade hygiene on the far left? A way to recognise each other? Or put off The Man?

DING!
 

No blind hate. This is all very deserved... People keep nancing about the issue at the center of the so called culture war. Its not about culture - its about intelligence and proper rearing. The things out there calling for a revolution toward regressive behaviors are just plain trash, and hypocrites of the highest order to boot. I have every justification for pitying them, which is what I did until they suddenly started fucking with laws and government. You try to fuck with my liberties and I'll hate you. Call me crazy!

Calling Penske Out
 

Ding. Cite please. I just question why moral compasses are awry. Murder and rape are wrong, despite Wonk's self-proclaimed checkmate.

That was the first time I ever posted that photo. You should be happy. A 1000 new words for racist hypocrate oppressor. I am expanding everyone's language capabilities.


I am not sure I knew you felt that way about Byrd, although I welcome the admission. And I didn't say you weren't allowed to say anything, but I think it better to focus on substance and not form.

Well that is at least heartening. Perhaps we made progress here today. Of course, I am not sure if Balt advanced at all, since he is ignoring me.

Most big cities are controlled by the Dimwitted party, if not completely, then effectively (while NYC may have a Republican mayor, he's more aligned with the D party and the rest of city is in Demo hands). And again while I am not for prior restraint, talk away, I would go for substance over form. As for Bennet, we know the liberals are going to hate on them, he called out their boy Clinton, but he is irrelevant to any public policy in the US. He's a private citisen. A political talking head for $$$, i.e an entertainer, albeit more intelligent than Admiral Penn.


You are the one who wanted to keep talking, how did I shut you down?

Obviously I considered it, it would be impossible to have this back and forth without considering it, but I have made my position clear on the areas where there is discrepancy. If you want to continue to read more into my words than is there, I can't stop you. If you want to continue to feel slighted by harsh rhetorical criticism of Kleagle Byrd or Chappaquiddick Teddy I don't know how to stop your delusional grandiosity, other than to suggest medication. You are not a Senator, I don't think you are a Kennedy cousin, you are not a DNC power broker, I don't think. I really don't even criticise people who can vote for, other than an occassional criticism of Boxer, but I think any rightminded soul can agree she is a shrill hag. No offence. Although that doesnt mean you are a shrill hag. You are certainly not a hag. Definitely. Not.

DING!
 

Not everyone is going to be intelligent. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, out of my love for you, you are at the far right of the bell curve in the intelligence department. You are lucky. An accident of genetics or intelligent design blessed you with those capabilities. Use them wisely and judiciously and not malign those less fortunate in the IQ department.

Proper rearing encompasses a lot of things and is highly subjective. I don't know what you mean.

Calling people who have faith or are more religious than you trash doesn't seem like a comment from an enlightened properly reared intellect. I know I try to rear my kids in a manner so as not to denigrate people because of their beliefs. Maybe your version of proper rearing was different.


I am not sure what rights of yours these trashy people are fucking with. The rights I worry about are when the TKs and Clintons and Bidens of the world start fucking with my property rights, via taxes. Thanks to the NRA I still have my 2nd Amendment rights though to trump those scurrilous bastards, murderers, and wallet rapists.

Calling Penske Out
 

God, you are a dick.

First, how many fucking times do I need to say it? Please, oh Penske, cast me your wisdom: How many times must a Democrat condemn Robert Byrd before he can talk about anything else? Must it be daily?

Second, how dare you assume that I feel anything but hatred and disgust for a fucking Klansman?


Oh, wait -- I know the answer to 2. I am a Dim. Therefore I must love the Klan.

Go fuck yourself to death.





Let me guess -- that statement applies only to the leaders? It was obvious!!!

Dick.




You have made your claimed position clear today, but the point is that this is not the message you send. If I say nigger every third word, then claim that I never really meant to say anything bad about black people, and certainly don't dislike black people, those disclaimers don't much help.

Calling Penske Out
 

Why is it when I say stuff over and over, you claim I don't mean what I say, but I need to acknowledge as true everything you say? You twist my words and beliefs, but you want me to honour yours? Where's the fairness?

Otoh, I know fully acknowledge that you have publicly condemned Robert Byrd (this should bookend my previous acknowledgment that I don't think that you are not racist from 3 or 4 months ago when we spent the whole day having this same correspondence).



You assume stuff about me all the time. And when I say you are wrong, you still assume it. When do I have to play fair and you don't? Although, again, I know acknowledge your hatred and disgust for Byrd. We are one in this belief. Perhaps we join forces to rid the world of his stain, yes?

Take my hand Sidd, kumbayah?


Why do you always resort to personal invective and profanity?

Personal invective and profanity again?


No, its completely different. I don't judge people by immutable inherent characteristics. I judge them on their character. The people I call Dimwits, the TKs, the clintons, the bidens, are people whose ideas and philosophies that affect all of our lives. I criticise them harshly because I think their characters are bad and their oppressvie interference in our lives is wrong and unjust. That is not anything like calling a black person a nigger. Directly or indirectly. If you are Ted Kennedy or Bill Clinton, you should feel the criticism personally. If not, you doth protest too much.

And the award goes to....
 

Howard Dean, for Funniest Metaphoric Comment of the Day. While talking about whether Bush should release stuff prepared by what's-her-name while acting as White House Counsel, Howard had this to say:

"Well, certainly the president can claim executive privilege. But in the this case, I think with a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court, you can't play, you know,. hide the salami, or whatever it's called."

I guess Sebby was right; she's pining for pole

And the award goes to....
 

I thought she was a lesbian, no? Nttawwt. I mean, I wouldn't mind watching......

And the award goes to....
 

she didn't ask for sex. all you know is that Dean was thinking about her and sexual thoughts started going through his brain. It is common for the Democratic leadership to have impure thoughts about objectively unattractive women. She just needs to make sure not to go on any unchaperoned private meetings with Tedster or one of them.

And the award goes to....
 

2. Why did Clinton sexually harass ugly or fat chicks? Certainly he could have done better, and he actually did. Is there some psychological malady whereby the uggos are less likely to bring rape or sexual abuse charges? And Clinton exploited it? Sick.

BREAKING........
 

Both the FBI and CIA are calling it the first case of espionage in the White House in modern history. In 2000, Aragoncillo worked on the staff of then-Vice President Al Gore. When interviewed by Philippine television, he remarked how valued Philippine employees were at the White House.

Great. Thanks Goron! You could invent the friggin internet but you can't vett your staff.

When they say "first case" I assume they are excepting the Clintons' work for the RedChinese based upon executive privilege?

http://www.handguncontrolinc.org/hillary_china3.jpg

Calling Penske Out
 

this reminds me, I saw a great documentary last night on the Yamato- a WWII Japanese battleship. biggest ship ever- no one would argue that it wasn't bigger and better than any ship the US had. But, they didn't have fuel so it could go. given that, the US ships blew it up easy.

Calling Penske Out
 

I thought you were on cialis now, that's not working? No wonder I have so many calls from your wife.

Yamato
 

I did not know that. That was also the name of the Enterprizes sister ship in the Next Generation. Anyone know if the Yamato was named after the Yamato for some lets all hold hands and sing kubaya reason - Enterprize - US WW II Ship - Yamato - Japanese WW II Ship. Any Trekkies know?

Calling Penske Out
 

Quite the contrary. For my part, I've learned to take things you say at face value. That's why I've repeatedly encouraged you to go where your rhetoric so clearly takes you. To the roofs of New Orleans, and prostate upon Roy's Rock in Alabama.

Pity that you can't bring yourself to go there on your own. Perhaps, in time, you will feel comfortable enough to go where the babyjesuschristsuperstarohmygoodnesswherewerethefuckingbuses wants you to go.

Calling Penske Out
 

the babyjesuschristsuperstar is everywhere Gatti. even with you, sidd and wonk, despite your mockery.

As for the South thing, I have sort of intimated it, but if I am not clear, I don't really like the south, generally, no offence, that much. I don't like southern culture, whatever it may be. I'm not that crazy about southern cuisine. I rooted for the Union in the civil war. I have been to many of the member states of the old confederacy and I have no burning desire to go back to those and as for the ones I haven't been, other than perhaps making a quick stop in them to urinate and thus claim them on my quest for all 50 states, I have no desire to go back. I would go to Disneyworld, but that's like a city-state unto itself. I would maybe go to Panama City, if I got back in shape, to do IMFlorida, because its flat and fast and it might be my best shot at breaking 10 hours.

Other than that, unless I had to go for business, I could probably avoid any other contact with the South for the remainder of my being and not feel any angst about it. This is assuming DC is not the South, which I don't think that it is, but I think sometimes some misguided people there do.

No offence. Everyone has places they like or don't. the south is just not my gig.

You can keep beating that drum, but there's your answer. Either way, stick with the mocking of religion and people who have faith. That is a winning theme for the Demos eventually, I am sure.

Calling Penske Out
 

That's fine with me, Penske, but I'm just reading your posts as they're written, and seeking your ideological soulmate. I think you're writing off your devoted flock much too quickly.

Think about a stanza from this poem, for example.

• We've voted in a government
  that's rotting at the core,
  Appointing Godless Judges
  who throw reason out the door.
  
  Too soft to place a killer
  in a well-deserved tomb,
  But brave enough to kill a baby
  before he leaves the womb.
  
  You think that God's not angry,
  that our land's a moral slum?
  How much longer will He wait
  before His judgment comes?

Look, you throw in a babyjesuschristsuperstar or a Byrd reference in there, and I'd have sworn that you'd have written it in lambasting your "Dims."

Of course, in actuality Roy Moore wrote it, and he's talking about Bush. But I'm sure that the two of you can sort that stuff out over a nice glass of tea at upcoming national GOP fundraisers.

Gattigap

Calling Penske Out
 

Were you part of the "break off the blue states and go with Canada" movement? did you attack those that did? Wasn't that writing off the South?

Calling Penske Out
 

To Penske:

[IMG]http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=bitch+slap/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=12rnha6pm/EXP=1128696355/*http%3A//www.experience-travel.net/fantasyzone/shadowlands/images/slap.gif[/IMG]

And, apparently, Wonk has red hair and a huge rack.

Calling Penske Out
 

I don't think so, no.

I'm not sure I'm getting your point. Mine is to direct Penske to his partner in rhetoric, Roy Moore. From all appearances, he's to become the George Wallace of the social conservatives, so this is an opportunity for Penske to get in on the ground floor, as it were.

Calling Penske Out
 

Since when did objecting to the imposition of another's faith upon oneself become "mocking"?

It is precisely the claim that babyjesus is and should be everywhere that makes the argument so distasteful.

BTW, perhaps South Boston would be more your speed.

Calling Penske Out
 

Nice, keep beating it. Your posts are like a chimp in the zoo who spends 23 hours a day jerking off. Maybe you should go to the South if you are so obsessed with it, or maybe you are exhibiting that self-loathing thing Sidd posts about. I am fairly certain based on my daily interactions with Southerners irl, they don't want me and I don't want them. Although given a choice between the south and France.........I would choose France. The South of France. So now we can note I don't always say bad things about France or southern places.

As for the poem, its an artistic piece that captures a real angst a sizable portion of the population has with the wayward moral compass in our nation. I like a range art. This is a nice bookend to my Dung Madonna Screensaver. Interesting also, that the leftists think that a crucifix in a jar of urine is equivalent to a modern day Guernica (hi Hank!) but would mock this poem as it exposes their moral failings.

Further, if you think the sentiment in the poem is limited to the south then you are showing your ignorance of America or maybe you are just too arrogant to respect a more well defined morality than you have. I can drive 15 minutes outside of the most socialist city in America and find towns with a majority of people who would agree with that. Drive north or west from NYC or West from Chicago and you would find the same.

Finally, my urination reference was not meant in an offensive way. It is my understanding that in order for one's presence in a state to count for the Quest for 50, you either have to go to the bathroom, engaging in a commercial transaction, or having a meal in the State (but airports never count). Driving over the border and peeing quickly seems to be the most efficient score, although, for example I got Iowa by driving 5 miles over the border to Spirit Lake, buying a spark plug from a Trak Auto and a coke from 7-11.

I see that the Senate told Bush to fuck off last night.

Interesting.

Calling Penske Out
 

I have yet to meet a more close minded intolerant group of people that the American leftists in our present age. Of course their talibanistic creed of PC is a glowing beacon of their intolerance and hatred of the spectrum of cultural and philosphical belief. I wonder why they don't move to Canada? Or FRance?

Calling Penske Out
 

A person with a wayward moral compass and inability to distinguish right from wrong would say that. Nic gif. though.

Calling Penske Out
 

Doesn't your dick get sore from all the beating off?

Hank's point was that maybe the out of touch left wing would be happier in Canada since they don't seem comfortable with the cultural or moral foundation of Bush's America.

Calling Penske Out
 

Its mocking when its an attempt to silence, exclude and illegimitaze a substantial portion of the electorate. Unfortunately for the left, the babyjesi are winning.

Gravity is everywhere too Burger and the left is not protesting or mocking that. Why?

Cite please.

And fwiw, I told the Senate to fuck off in my prayers before bedtime.

As Spanky would say, do you own damned research.

Rt, please. The men are talking here.

That's bs! When Spanky wanted a BK pleading form, I googled it and gave him the cite. I even googled his star trek question last night, but I couldn't understand the trekkerite websites it led me to. no offence.

DING!
 

'Gainst Rudy, Hill'd go down the chute
Faster than a New York minute.
And you should know it's not just me -
Lots of local Dems agree.
(That said, if she ran 'gainst McCain,
I'd probably vote Dem again.)

On a related note,
I will share this annecdote:
This morning on the subway
A young rapper made my day.
He said he wanted to be president,
And fuck both parties, he was independent!