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Atticus Grinch 02-13-2009 04:33 AM

Re: Mac Users
 
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Originally Posted by mmmm, burger (c.j.) (Post 381143)
prices are pretty much the same everywhere. Amazon may be the best because you have to self-report the use tax and probably won't in any event and free shipping.

Can you get a government/education/employer discount?

ftfy.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 02-13-2009 10:48 AM

Re: Mac Users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 381438)
ftfy.

stp.

But, for me, at least, I roll like Marion Barry in the 09.

Penske_Account 02-13-2009 12:00 PM

Re: Mac Users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 381438)
ftfy.

Its like you dont even know me anymore.....I have my assistant buy the computer with his personal Visa, and then (i) I give him a special bonus for the receipt amount, and (ii) we do a lease arrangement for the use of the computer, 1 year with renewals at my option at $1 year.

As for the sales tax I assume he self reports, but not really my issue.

Penske_Account 02-13-2009 12:02 PM

Re: Mac Users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 381444)
stp.

But, for me, at least, I roll like Marion Barry in the 09.

Parlour game/cocktail party query, where were you when the crack vid broke?

Me: Clydes in G-town, coping a feel on an underaged co-ed at the bar while dining on some eggs benedict and Bass on tap. Good times!

Atticus Grinch 02-13-2009 12:04 PM

Re: Mac Users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 381444)
stp.

I think we've had this discussion already. Penske's subsequent clarification doesn't address my point, because use tax doesn't hinge upon whether the website has bricks and mortar in the state -- it hinges upon whether the state of residence imposes use tax for out-of-state purchases. If he buys from Amazon, Amazon will charge him sales tax. If he buys from MacConnection or J&R, he's got a legal duty to report the purchase and to pay a use tax that is equal to the sales tax that would have applied had it been an in-state purchase, including potentially King County's add-on.

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Residents of Washington are also obligated to pay a sales and use tax, which is incurred when a resident makes a purchase in another state and uses it within state lines, regardless of whether or not sales tax was paid in another state. This tax is based on an honor system for its residents and is seldom, if ever, paid.
Link. (It appears that WA's use tax is harsher than CA's, because in CA you don't have to pay use tax if you paid sales tax in the state of purchase, whereas apparently in WA you do.)

The existence of use tax means sales tax is a non-factor to the decision of where to buy, unless you have no intention of reporting taxes that are due.

Quote:

But, for me, at least, I roll like Marion Barry in the 09.
I think my original post left open the possibility that Penske might find a way internally to rationalize the non-reporting of use tax.

Penske_Account 02-13-2009 12:06 PM

Re: Mac Users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atticus grinch (Post 381459)
i think we've had this discussion already. Penske's subsequent clarification doesn't address my point, because use tax doesn't hinge upon whether the website has bricks and mortar in the state -- it hinges upon whether the state of residence imposes use tax for out-of-state purchases. If he buys from amazon, amazon will charge him sales tax. If he buys from macconnection or j&r, he's got a legal duty to report the purchase and to pay a use tax that is equal to the sales tax that would have applied had it been an in-state purchase, including potentially king county's add-on.



link.



I think my original post left open the possibility that penske might find a way internally to rationalize the non-reporting of use tax.

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stp.

Atticus Grinch 02-13-2009 12:32 PM

Re: Mac Users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Penske_Account (Post 381460)
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stp.

I apologize for implying that your approach to the tax might mirror that of 99% of your fellow citizens. I should have known that if there was a 1% solution, Penske would find it.

Penske_Account 02-13-2009 02:16 PM

Re: Mac Users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 381466)
I apologize for implying that your approach to the tax might mirror that of 99% of your fellow citizens. I should have known that if there was a 1% solution, Penske would find it.

Thanks. You're coming around here validates all of the hard work and consistent focus that I have put into the brand over the years.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 02-13-2009 04:30 PM

Re: Mac Users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 381466)
I apologize for implying that your approach to the tax might mirror that of 99% of your fellow citizens. I should have known that if there was a 1% solution, Penske would find it.

1% compliance overestimates the rate by several orders of magnitude.

The only way it gets to that level is if the next Commerce nominee gets hung up on use-tax avoidance charges. And I'm pretty sure neither party wants to go there.

taxwonk 02-13-2009 04:57 PM

Re: Mac Users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 381459)
I think we've had this discussion already. Penske's subsequent clarification doesn't address my point, because use tax doesn't hinge upon whether the website has bricks and mortar in the state -- it hinges upon whether the state of residence imposes use tax for out-of-state purchases. If he buys from Amazon, Amazon will charge him sales tax. If he buys from MacConnection or J&R, he's got a legal duty to report the purchase and to pay a use tax that is equal to the sales tax that would have applied had it been an in-state purchase, including potentially King County's add-on.



Link. (It appears that WA's use tax is harsher than CA's, because in CA you don't have to pay use tax if you paid sales tax in the state of purchase, whereas apparently in WA you do.)

The existence of use tax means sales tax is a non-factor to the decision of where to buy, unless you have no intention of reporting taxes that are due.



I think my original post left open the possibility that Penske might find a way internally to rationalize the non-reporting of use tax.

When was the moratorium on interstate sales over the internet lifted?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 02-13-2009 05:19 PM

Re: Mac Users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 381529)
When was the moratorium on interstate sales over the internet lifted?

I don't think that ever limited states from imposing use taxes on their residents. It prevented states from forcing retailers to collect taxes from buyers.

1436 02-13-2009 05:34 PM

Re: Mac Users
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 381518)
And I'm pretty sure neither party wants to go there.

Just because both are guilty doesn't mean it can't be used to drag down the level of discourse.

It actually fits quite well in the current narrative: change = more tax cheats.

Atticus Grinch 12-03-2009 04:14 AM

Re: Mac Users
 
Zork revisited by a modern gamer.


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