Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 368452)

The iTunes Music Store doesn't exist to make money selling music. It exists in order to continue making Apple hardware necessary in people's lives.

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 368469)

Well, Kid's not getting anything done on his own (other than advocating for Napster). So I'm not sure which he wants--the government to intervene or for all the other musicians to join him and get an exemption from the antitrust laws for a group boycott.

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 368456)

What's different is Kid Rock isn't simply saying that Apple's getting too much of the pie from him. He's saying that everyone else should get more of the pie too, and until they do he's not going to sell to them (this, even though a whole bunch of other musicians apparently are satisfied with their piece of pie).

So in your hypo, Sony would be saying "We think you're getting too good a deal from everyone you deal with--Panasonic, Alpo, Hanes, whoever--so we're not going to sell to you at the price you want. In fact, we resent the fact that you're doing that so successfully, so we're not going to sell to you at all." Sure, that's negotiation, but then so would be "I'm going to burn down your store if you don't give me the deal you want."

Originally Posted by Sparklehorse (Post 368491)

Speaking of Judge Reinhold

Originally Posted by catrin_darcy (Post 368440)

Thanks everyone for the well-wishes! If Slave and I can just make it through the next 13 days, this marriage thing may work out . . . .

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 368543)

Four more years!

You will note that your tying the knot has, among other things, brought a post-neo-faux-sock(acrylic) imitator of the late and sometimes lamented Penske Account back to feel a little of the inimitable Lawtalkers Love. Which he has now apparently felt in spades. This alone is reason for tremendous satisfaction and rejoicing in certain quarters, or even entire halves. To cite only one example, Flower's childlike joy is Farve-like.* It's good to see him happy again.

*which is to say his childish joy is Farve-ish. Or something equally redundant.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 368557)

ever think that maybe Penske coming back (with poor spelling, hmmm, i remember a retired sock that spelled poorly, but i don't think it was p., or maybe it was p., but not penske), and maybe flower being more confident are both because slave has been gone. he can be a bit critical at times.

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 368582)

WHo do you think is more chilling to free expression on these boards - Slave here or Ty on the PB? I am trying to gauge the varying degrees of repression and how much credit to give you for continuing to post under these conditions.

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 368456)

What's different is Kid Rock isn't simply saying that Apple's getting too much of the pie from him. He's saying that everyone else should get more of the pie too, and until they do he's not going to sell to them (this, even though a whole bunch of other musicians apparently are satisfied with their piece of pie).

So in your hypo, Sony would be saying "We think you're getting too good a deal from everyone you deal with--Panasonic, Alpo, Hanes, whoever--so we're not going to sell to you at the price you want. In fact, we resent the fact that you're doing that so successfully, so we're not going to sell to you at all." Sure, that's negotiation, but then so would be "I'm going to burn down your store if you don't give me the deal you want."

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 368582)

WHo do you think is more chilling to free expression on these boards - Slave here or Ty on the PB? I am trying to gauge the varying degrees of repression and how much credit to give you for continuing to post under these conditions.

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 368623)

I think that Flower's biting tongue is far more chilling than either Slave's or Ty's dogmatic ravings. I often find myself hitting the delete key instead of posting something for fear I might suffer Flower's wrath. I vote we should all shun him until he turns nicer.

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 368636)

I'll admit the first seven or eight yellow cards he gave me did sting a bit. But now it's settled into a routine. And isn't shunning sort of . . . socialist?

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 368623)

I often find myself hitting the delete key instead of posting something for fear I might suffer Flower's wrath.

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 368636)

I'll admit the first seven or eight yellow cards he gave me did sting a bit. But now it's settled into a routine. And isn't shunning sort of . . . socialist?

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 368638)

claiming one gets yellow cards is building up an in-group or secret society of people whom Flower feel are worthy of his faux ire. It makes the rest of us feel B-list.