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This little rules only applies to the same person. It would be shamefull if I ever trusted anything you ever say again, but at this point there is no reason for me not to trust Penske.

Book Club
 

I haven't punk'd him at all. I am reading Irving. This new book just seems more up his alley. sts. npi. plus, it is more apropos of something for this board.

I thought you avoided this place?

Book Club
 

I am a very poor reader. Books take concentrated time, and I work a lot, and have a lot of kids to tend to in my relatively small amount of free time. That's why my reading is limited to the collective works of the faux elitist, morally relativistic liberal inteligentsia, i.e. this board, the WSJ and the Sunday NYTimes.

However, I did buy that Irving book, as up until Cider House Rulz or A Prayer for the symbolically metaphorical babyjesuschristsuperstar Owen Meany, I had read all of his works ([outable]except for the 158 Pound Marriage, which has been on my nightstand for 5 years[/outable]) , and I am reading it, albeit more slowly than Spanky. Also, I would read this Freeh book as it would give me some more ammo to combat the nattering nabobs of no-nothingness of the left.

Politics Book Club
 

Maybe we should read this book, and then read one from the left. Go back and forth. Or maybe since this book is not out yet we should start with one on the left and then go to this one. Any thoughts?

Book Club
 

I don't get why the book club doesn't read my book. Ty and I have both read it. We're not promising to, we have. Plus, there are issues in the book that the fringe (SHP SAM) can spin into indictments of the right.

Was it that I talked about the date that causes you to disrespect me?

Politics Book Club
 

Dick Morris is a democrat/on the left, right?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/00...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Bad news for Hillary (and the dim leadership)
 

Democrats Urged to Abandon Election Myths

WASHINGTON (AP) - To regain political power Democrats must abandon favorite election myths, adopt a strong position on national defense and pick candidates who connect with average voters, two political analysts from the party said Thursday.

Political scientists Elaine Kamarck and William Galston, both Democrats, warned that the most important first step is to abandon beliefs they describe as "election myths."

The said the current "myths" are:

_The belief Democrats can win if they just do a great job of mobilizing their base. Republicans have improved at mobilizing their own base, so Democrats need to do more than that.

_The theory demographic changes over time will make Democrats a majority, a questionable concept with the Hispanic vote increasingly up for grabs.

_The belief Democrats can succeed politically if they simply learn to talk more effectively about their positions.

_The strategy of avoiding cultural issues, playing down national security and changing the subject to domestic issues. National security is too dominant a concern now.

The report noted Republican gains among married people, Catholics, Hispanics and women during the last presidential election.

The Democrats also must develop a coherent foreign policy because "we just don't have one," said Kamarck, a political scientist at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.

The problem here is the demographics are working against them (hispanics, hi Spanky!), the dim leadership has no values, or cultural and moral clarituy to offer the electorate, which essentially what the article is saying that they need to do and who they need to appeal to (families, people with religious values). Instead the dims want God out of the public square, mock the babyjesi and want a society of moral relativism (Wonk, you may not want me and my superior morals governing, but moral clarity plays to the electorate and its why the Rs win national elections).

Plus, national defence!!! They don't have a policy is right. Clinton spent 8 years in office governing by opinion poll, that is the policy. Which amounts to cut and run. The lemmings of America want to be led. To victory and a position of strength and security (ala the W Doctrine), not led on a mission of surrender and skulk away in a fart cloud of shame and self-blame.

Based on this internal study of demos by demos, I see Republican control of the Fed government for at least the next three election cycles. thoughts?


eta: that talking about effectively about their positions myth actually for Kerry, no?

Bad news for Hillary (and the dim leadership)
 

National elections? I bet my neighbor that the Dems will lose 3 Senate seats in '06. They have way more contested seats up.

This board could get to be as irrelevant as Spank's book club.

Bad news for Hillary (and the dim leadership)
 

If goes to 58-42, the last 2 years of W's term will be a free for all. I don't if Stevens can outlast it. RBG is not a healthy women. Souter will soon find himself locked in a battle royale to save his familial home and may have to step down. The babyjesus feels good.

I wonder if the 06 election debacle for the demos is what precipitates Ty's leaving?

Book Club
 

2. Most everyone agrees Penske ruined the Politics board, but then when Spank tries to carve out a nice book club board Penske has to talk him into reading some book that Penske doesn't even read. "I bought it and I'll read it soon." huh? the book was assigned weeks ago.

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Never Let Me Go? No one seemed to jump on the band wagon. I don't have a problem with that if that is what everyone agrees with. I just don't see how there is much to talk about with fiction. Either you like it or your don't. But if people are into that I will go along.

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2.

Bad news for Hillary (and the dim leadership)
 

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This could spell real trouble for us.

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Bad news for Hillary (and the dim leadership)
 

There are hispanic voters in lots of states. That is one issue that affects California differently than it affects a lot of states. To win a presidential election a Republican candidate doesn't need California.

Caption?
 

Caption?
 

"Ah, Georges Prognatus the Apostate! With transcendent disapprobation, we collide again."

"Uh, what's that Willy?"

"Rube. I called you a dick"

Book Club
 

Reading about it makes me sleepy. The actual book must be better than Ambien.

I like Freeh's timing - just like his organization's response to terrorism - about seven years late...

Bargain bin in five weeks.

Caption?
 

"You're not going to understand a fucking syllable of anything I say, are you? Be a dear and have them send me a really good scotch. Thanks, and my best to dad..."

Caption?
 

This picture is like watching the progression of conservativism in the 20/21st century. You get to see the top shelf meal that starts it all, and next to it, the result of the digestive process.

I can imagine Buckley turning to his wife after speaking and saying "well, thankfully, I'll be dead soon."

Book Club
 

Outable to who? Your wife?

Sad, sad, sad
 

You see, Sidd?

He's really not a dick. He's a victim.

Book Club
 

Bastard! That made my wine shoot out my nose. And its less tasty going out than coming in. Merde!

[hi Ty!] 2003 Owen Roe Abbotts Table[/hi Ty!]

Sad, sad, sad
 

Where are the compassionate liberals?

Sad, sad, sad
 

Who knows, but at least they're not ruining the fun for the rest of us:


Victoria's Secret capitulates to demands to remove risqué display in Tyson's Corner

Sad, sad, sad
 

Hollywood, silly

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

It is amazing that these "political pundits" understand so little about W. Krauthammer is now asking for her withdrawal. W. is a political master that understand that disputes in politics need to be behind closed door, or you lose control of them. That is why he is so good a preventing leaks. If people want to influence W. the last thing they should do is make it public. The more public they make it the harder it is for him to back down. In addition, they less he is going to want to back down because he doesn't want people to think he will give into public pressure.

It is like negotiating with terrorists, if you pay them it just encourages it more. If W. gives into this pressure it will encourage more so he won't. Under Ws political strategy he has done what these guys have wanted so much that now that he hasn't they are so unused to this position they are doing the absolutely wrong thing to get him to change his mind.

This is a loyalty test. Everyone that fails by taking a public position against him is ruining their future influence with him.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

Please don't out me, although, in fairness, I have done a lot of the heavy lifting pimping his agenda over the last 5 years in the greedyassociate community and as a counterweight to Ty's leftist rantings in the same said community. That has to count for something.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

If it looks like a Lame Duck and sounds likes a Lame Duck...

Did you see how he got killed in the Senate the other day?

Sad, sad, sad
 

the link doesn't work. I don't know if the Republicans are directly behind this, but Republican or Demo the DC area is conservative in its culture. Assumption of the risk. You want sex and glam in the store windows, move to Hollyweird.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

That avatar is whack dude. Too confusing.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

Heavy lifting? AV equipment is usually on wheels, no?

Sad, sad, sad
 

It shoudl work now. or an a lower case L to the busted link.

It wasn't dems chewing it out it was babyjesusfreaks who probably buy their kids juicy couture.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

Does this mean that W will contemplate bombing K Street (or Manhattan)?



Run, Burger, run!

Sad, sad, sad
 

What's the leverage? A boycott? That's the market at work. Apparently VS wasn't able to convince the property manager that the window drew in more revenue generating customers than it would send away. Maybe whomever does their commercial lease work should negotiate more discretion into it related to window displays.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

He should target Hollyweird. And Bezerkely.

Sad, sad, sad
 

The leverage is publicity.

A boycott is not the market at work. It's an effort by some within the "market" to prevent others from exercising their own independent judgment about what to purchase.

Similar rationale as to why shouting down a speaker is not itself speech, or at least speech of a value worth protecting.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

I don't buy the lame duck theory. It had relevence a while back and to other offices but not with POTUS. In modern politics three months is a life time. He is going to be president forever as far as the political calender is concerned (and in the minds of the people that are dealing with him). He will only become a lame duck after his successor is elected and he is two months away from leaving office.

Sad, sad, sad
 

I don't buy that. A boycott wouldn't prevent me from exercising my own judgment. Ads try to sell a product, a boycott or public protest is just information to the contrary. You weigh the information and make a decision. Of course if there is no counter information that may make you more predisposed to the ads affect.

Sad, sad, sad
 

I think it is fruitless and irresponsible to have this discussion unless we see some pictures of the display in question. Preferrably before and after shots. Otherwise, no intelligent discussion can be had.

All discussion should be suspended until the proper evidence is presented.

Discussing Victoria Secret without pictures is an abomination and you should be ashamed of yourself.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

He seems to have blown that this time. If you want to keep disputes behind closed doors, you need to avoid angering your base so publicly.