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Fair point.
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Slideshow here

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

I suspect that he had to, given that the right wasn't addressing the reality that Bush figured he was facing. Pretty sure they ran a bunch of names by people, and the groups kept responding like Penske (perhaps without the sirens): JRB, Luttig, POwen. And WH said "can't do it; won't fly; give me someone else." And eventually it got to the point where the WH had to move because the right wasn't going to give him someone confirmable.

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Exactly. There’s a soft cultural McCarthyism going on at the moment. Certain self-proclaimed guardians of “decent American culture” are pushing around the other 90% of the country. They never succeed - you can’t fight progression of culture, and this culture will progress, liberally. Perhaps not fiscally liberally - since everyone seems to agree that big govt is money wasted - but very much socially. There’s simply no way the Social Right can ever win. You can’t turn back the clock. Its like that Beatles song...

No, not “Everybody’s Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey.”

Roll out
 

"Magical Mystery Tour"?

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

I think Bush chose exactly who he wanted. I don't think he cares what they think, and that is where they are wrong. He uses them for political purposes but he doesn't care what they think. They just think he cares about their opinions because he has convinced them that he does. He has been reelected, he has the power, and he exercised it.

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Thanks. My only criticism is that they should be using live models.

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Maybe the Serb would be interested.

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They tried that, but the ratings sucked. Penske organized the boycott.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

And rather than getting shot down for pure ideological reasons he put a nominee that arguably can be shot for both ideological reasons and the fact that she is not qualified. To exacerbate the situation he makes the claim that she is the most qualified person out there (or words to that effect) which is the exact same thing his dad said about Thomas, and its no less stupid now than it was then, and it was pretty fucking stupid then. My head still hurts trying to discern the analysis whereby anyone could come to such a conclusion about Thomas, it would probably explode trying to figure it out related to Miers. And then you wouldn't have me to moderate this board anymore. What would all of all y'all do then?

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She could do a good job but she lives in the wrong city




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These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

And let me add, while I would still not necessarily be thrilled with his choice, I would have more respect for him if he came out and said, "I am nominating Harryette, she's my personal lawyer, that's her qualification, I won the election, so eat cat-shite and......


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If he said that then I could at least understand where the flock he is coming from.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

Do you think Luttig is unconfirmable? I think Bush met him the last time around and liked Roberts more. This time, he didn't want to pick some other appellate judge -- he wanted to pick one of his own people, and so he did. His first term was all about surrounding himself with heavyweights (Powell, Cheney, Rumsfeld). This term is all about surrounding himself with his people.

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I remember when they used to have "adult entertainment" places on 14th between H and I where half-naked drug addled girls danced and/or lounged on couches in large window fronts. Being an naive and impressionable christian kid from a farm in the heartland I was impressed. And titiliated. I would walk two blocks out of my way going from the Metro to the firm where I had a summer paralegal job (this was undergrad) just to pass by the windows and enjoy what Henry Miller referred to as a "personal" (if my memory of the CliffNotes of one of those Tropic books serves me).

Those were the days. I miss them [sniff]

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Is Mattin gay, do you know?

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These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

Luttig might be the one person mentioned by the right that could be confirmed. I suspect he would have a lot of trouble, especially from women--both because he's not but SOC is and because of his ruling in the VAWA case. But he might ultimately squeak in with 52-53 votes. JRB, Owen, McConnell, Edith Jones -- no way. Clement could get there too, but no one on the right has been pushing her.

BTW, I give him some credit for sticking with his people. Clinton sold out his buddies all too quickly.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

I think short of credible allegations of child molestation, SO beating or putting pubical hairs on co-workers coke cans, Luttig, McConnell, Jones, Clement (sorry Ty), and Alito are all confirmable. JRB would be a fight, but a damn interesting one. Owens would get dinged in all likelihood.

Generally I think you are right, but Gonzalez is more qualified for a seat than this lady and he is Bush's people. Or how about Ashcroft?

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Still there. They do a brisk business on Friday afternoons when the EOP cuts loose.

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I think Jones and McConnell could get confirmed. It's a travesty if they couldn't. Just as bad as if a non-qualified nominee like Miers slips in.

I bet Ty would vote yes for McConnell, and if so, that says something. Clement otoh has a bad taste about her, intangible, but there is something off putting........

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No idea

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That's a joke right? I thought all those places were closed by the time I left, which was when Clinton arrived. Certainly all the storefronts where girls danced and lounged were gone. I know that. RE values have all gone up, there's no way those places went back in or are you fvcking with me?

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

I agree.

eta: I think McConnell would be a powerhouse on the court, though I tend to disagree with some of what he thinks.

Have heard that some Republicans oppose them behind the scenes, and so I suspect they would not be nominated for fear of losing the vote. The White House should be able to count votes as well as you and me, if they bother to do so.

Maybe Gonzalez didn't want the job. Attorney General is not a bad gig, and he just got there. Ashcroft is not one of Bush's people.

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

Plus -- The base would like it, but talk about a nuclear war over a nominee!

S_A_M

These Bozos Don't understand Bush...
 

I knew he wasn't exactly a Bushie but the fight would be worth the price of admission.

BOARD POLL
 

Will Miers be confirmed, yes or no?

BOARD POLL
 

No. She will withdraw her name from consideration.

aV

Calling Penske Out
 

I didn't say perjury wasn't wrong. As for whether or not it is an absolute wrong, I believe in very few absolutes. But that wasn't the point of my question. I had asked you if lying is an absolute wrong. You said that lying under oath was. All I'm trying to do now is clarify whether or not you believe lying when not under oath is an absolute wrong or not. What is your answer?

Calling Penske Out
 

Am I to take it from this post that you believe God spoke to Bush?

Calling Penske Out
 

Why would you not think perjury is wrong? Why can't the left admit its wrong? Is perjury legal in IL?

Calling Penske Out
 

I believe intelligent design is a powerful force.

Calling Penske out
 

This must be a terrible blow to you. First, we agreed that God decreed killing to be an absolute Wrong. Now, presumably, for I see no other reason for you posting this, you believe God has told Bush that it's alright to kill.

Apparently, God is a moral relativist. Does this mean that you are now going to abandon absolutism?

BOARD POLL
 

Thanks.

The current tally is:

Yes: 0

No (or effectively no): 1

BOARD POLL
 

(c) she won't be put up for a vote

Calling Penske out
 

God is not a moral relativist. He has absolute power. He makes the rules. It's sad that you would denigrate his authority with such mockery.

BOARD POLL
 

OKay, I am counting that as no.

If she doesn't get to a vote then she won't be confirmed.

Yes: 0

No: 2

BOARD POLL
 

can't he just make a recess appointment?

Calling Penske Out
 

Wonk is simply trying to get you to lay out specifically what it is you actually believe and examine it. I'm not sure why you are resisting my efforts so much.

Quit trying to hide the ball, Penske. Put up or shut up.

And for what it's worth, once we finish examining what you stand for, or determine that you stand for nothing and you simply like the attention, you or anyone else are free to ask me what I stand for and examine it in detail.

BOARD POLL
 

Yes: 0
No: 2
Other: 1

Calling Penske Out
 

You asked me a question that was based on something that I doubt is true. I am asking you for a cite on the basis of your question.

I guess Hans Blix was busy
 

OSLO, Norway (AP) - Mohamed El Baradei and the International Atomic Energy Agency that he heads won the 2005 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for their efforts to stop the spread of nuclear weapons.

ElBaradei, a 63-year-old lawyer from Egypt, has led the U.N. nuclear agency as it grappled with the crisis in Iraq and the ongoing efforts to prevent North Korea and Iran from acquiring nuclear arms....

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In other news, a new penny, while shiny, is still worthless.

I guess Hans Blix was busy
 

So the standard for winning is not-quite-complete-abject failure?

I guess that's a step up from the standard when Arafat won which was "mass murdering baby killer".