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Gattigap 07-31-2004 01:46 PM

All you need to know....
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
"A South Florida woman who died this week had an unusual last request. Instead of flower or contributions in her name to a charity, she asked those who loved her to try to make sure President George W. Bush is not re-elected.

Joan Abbey, shown here before her death, wanted most of all to have President George W. Bush lose the November election.

Loved ones said that Joan Abbey was committed to her political passions, even in death.

Abbey was born in Montreal...."
I see your ambitions are taking you out from in front of the camera into the writer's chair! Excellent.

But just keep in mind, this scene needs more random, graphic sex. Though it's hard to visualize now that it's hit the big time, Slave Shoe Diaries started as a Kantian musing on the experience of Shafters. Even if the general subject matter was correct, focus groups showed us that having you in a smoking jacket, pipe, and holding a copy of Henry V just didn't get the story moving, if you know what I mean.

Gattigap

Tyrone Slothrop 08-01-2004 01:58 PM

the other shoe drops
 
Slave & club: Marshall has finally explained what he was alluding to re the FT story and the Niger uranium. It sounds like all roads lead back to Rome -- Italian intelligence.

sgtclub 08-01-2004 02:04 PM

Is is "Help" or "Hope" on the way?
 
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
On that note, I've been waiting for Club to address yesterday's economic news -- an unprecedented two-year income decline for Americans. He'll blame it on the stock market, of course, but there wasn't even a one-year income decline in 1987 or during the bear market of the 1970s.
Been out of town and haven't caught this. Post a link if you have it.

Sidd Finch 08-01-2004 03:23 PM

Is is "Help" or "Hope" on the way?
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Been out of town and haven't caught this. Post a link if you have it.

It's yesterday's news (and then some). What's your call for the jobs report? Serious question -- I'm wondering what effect the rise in interest rates will have.

sgtclub 08-01-2004 06:53 PM

Is is "Help" or "Hope" on the way?
 
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
It's yesterday's news (and then some). What's your call for the jobs report? Serious question -- I'm wondering what effect the rise in interest rates will have.
Tough call. The June numbers surprised me a little, but I think it was primarily due to the bad news in Iraq in Q2 and seasonality. Given the slow down in growth in Q2 (to 3.0% from 4+%, I think we will be lucky to crack 200K. 150K more likely.

New topic. Since you are so concerned with deficits, how will Kerry pay for the new spending he has proposed in this speech? The WSJ ran an article on Friday that crunches the numbers, and if they are right, it looks like the defecits will be even bigger under Kerry. Essentially, Kerry seems to think he can make up some ground on the deficit with the tax increase, but at the same time is proposing a good deal more spending.

Sidd Finch 08-01-2004 07:15 PM

Is is "Help" or "Hope" on the way?
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
New topic. Since you are so concerned with deficits, how will Kerry pay for the new spending he has proposed in this speech? The WSJ ran an article on Friday that crunches the numbers, and if they are right, it looks like the defecits will be even bigger under Kerry. Essentially, Kerry seems to think he can make up some ground on the deficit with the tax increase, but at the same time is proposing a good deal more spending.

I didn't listen to the speech so I don't know what the particular programs were. I haven't seen the WSJ article, but a recent Economist article suggested that his proposed spending increases (as of that point) and tax increases were a wash.

A wash isn't good enough, and a deficit increase is even worse. I agree, Kerry needs to do better.

I would disagree that deficits under Kerry would be worse than under Bush, because Bush is pushing more tax cuts and making the last ones permanent. I believe -- not certain -- that many if not most of the Bush tax cuts have not yet come into effect, so the effect on the budget is only beginning to be felt. Bush is proposing, and for four years has been enacting, cutting taxes while increasing spending. Kerry is proposing increasing taxes while increasing spending. Both are shitty approaches, but one is less shitty than the other. And since Cthlhu isn't running....

In the end, I suspect that if Kerry is elected he won't be able to push through any major spending increases, in part because Repubs will control at least one if not both the House and Senate. I think some balance in the fed gov't will have a salutary effect.

Hank Chinaski 08-01-2004 10:19 PM

Popeye
 
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Do you and Penske have a little circle-jerk thing going where you imagine Hillary as the next Dem nominee?

Does he let you borrow the doll?
Plus, rudy got rid of the drugs and porno, didn't he? I say run Condi. Female, black, and according to some, homo. Run against that shit dems.

Hank Chinaski 08-01-2004 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
"The reward of art is not fame or success but intoxication: that is why so many bad artists are unable to give it up."

-- Jean Cocteau
"Sorry baby but I had to crash that Honda."

-- Butch

Skeks in the city 08-01-2004 11:03 PM

Conservative Punks
 
Nick Rizzuto, a NYC punk rocker, started a conservative punk website. One columnist is Michael Graves, lead singer of Gotham Road and a former lead singer of the Misfits.Link

The conservative punk website was founded to oppose the lefty punk website started by NOFX's Fat Mike.Link

Secret_Agent_Man 08-01-2004 11:42 PM

Is is "Help" or "Hope" on the way?
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
We will see if that was his Mondale moment. That line actually really pissed me off. Telegraphed robbery in broad daylight. Hey all you constitutional scholars out there. Isn't the constitution supposed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority?
I suppose so.

But, club, I think most folks don't define an extra 2% of income taxes as "tyranny."

S_A_M

P.S. "Stronger at Home. Respected Abroad" -- I really like that motto. (Positive, but with a nice implied slap.)

P.P.S. Pretty ballsy to Bush to criticize Kerry as having accomplished little in his public career. His major accomplishment as Governor of Texas was to execute a lot of people. His record since then has been mixed, at best.

"Good intentions do not always translate into results." The epitaph for his Presidency?

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man 08-01-2004 11:47 PM

Is is "Help" or "Hope" on the way?
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The upside-down flag is a really nice touch.
Internationally-recognized distress signal.

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man 08-01-2004 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
"Sorry baby but I had to crash that Honda."

-- Butch
"Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead."

-- also Butch

Hank Chinaski 08-02-2004 09:56 AM

Dead Men Bus Riding
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
"Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead."

-- also Butch
Speaking of the dead, it looks like JFK has trouble interacting with some of his potential future charges; outside of photo-ops, I mean.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2711258

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'Believe' tour off to a bumpy start
Kerry's 21-state trip gets a mixed reception during its first day out

By JULIE MASON

SCRANTON, PA. - The Democratic presidential ticket of John Kerry and John Edwards worked Friday to spread the energy, beginning a national bus tour hours after the Boston convention.

In Newburg, N.Y., they made an unscheduled stop to celebrate John and Elizabeth Edwards' 27th anniversary.

The couple observed their anniversary tradition of a meal at Wendy's, a nod to their early married days when it was all they could afford.

Kerry joined them inside and spied a table of Marines. But when he struck up a conversation, the Marines answered tersely and expressed irritation.

"He imposed on us and I disagree with him coming over here to shake our hands," said one, who did not give his name.

I'm sure it's a "Marines hate the Navy" thing, but still, its sounds bad to people who don't realize its just inter-service tension.

And, he seems to recognize the Dems have fucked up the Federal Courts by preventing Judges taking the bench. He thinks if OBL is still alive and gets caught, we'll have to rely on State Courts.

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Kerry, whose convention speech emphasized national security and foreign policy, said in an interview with The Associated Press that he would put Osama bin Laden on trial in U.S. courts.

That would ensure the "fastest, surest route" to a murder conviction if the terrorist mastermind is captured while he is president, Kerry said


"I want him tried for murder in New York City, and in Virginia and in Pennsylvania," where planes hijacked by al-Qaida operatives crashed Sept. 11, 2001, he said.
Here P.

http://homepage.mac.com/cfj/.Picture...ine-073104.jpg

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 08-02-2004 10:20 AM

Is is "Help" or "Hope" on the way?
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man

But, club, I think most folks don't define an extra 2% of income taxes as "tyranny."

Is that all it is? It sure isn't going to do much for the deficit, then . . .

baltassoc 08-02-2004 10:41 AM

Dead Men Bus Riding
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
...And, he seems to recognize the Dems have fucked up the Federal Courts by preventing Judges taking the bench.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha [snort]. Shit that's funny. Republicans lost any right to bitch about the judicial nomination process in approximately 1995.

Silence!


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