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Hank Chinaski 08-25-2005 10:32 AM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Anywhere between Voluptuous and Obese.
Can a guy be full figured?

http://www.ntxe-news.com/artman/uplo...lagepeople.jpg

Hank Chinaski 08-25-2005 10:36 AM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I would like to know what this term means to this board.
The first time I heard that was on a bra commercial where some old actress said "We full figured gals need more support." She wasn't fat, so I take it as "large breasted."

sebastian_dangerfield 08-25-2005 10:44 AM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Can a guy be full figured?
I guess, but a man cannot be voluptuous.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-25-2005 10:54 AM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I would like to know what this term means to this board.
In some contexts I think it means big TITS!! In others it is a euphemism for "fat."

ThurgreedMarshall 08-25-2005 11:17 AM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I would like to know what this term means to this board.
Depends on context. Sometimes it means this:

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/815...050704bhd1.jpg

but mostly it means this:

http://www.vbwtimes.com/graphics/byro.jpg

TM

spookyfish 08-25-2005 11:23 AM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The first time I heard that was on a bra commercial where some old actress said "We full figured gals need more support." She wasn't fat, so I take it as "large breasted."
Me too. In its original context, this was the "full-figured" gal.

http://images.art.com/images/product...0/10101551.jpg

spookyfish 08-25-2005 11:24 AM

More gossip
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I think we can work it out. Girl shower sex would be fine.

Phew!!
Same-sexist fuck.

pony_trekker 08-25-2005 11:26 AM

More gossip
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
. Sex on a beach, not good.
Beats jackin' off on a beach.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-25-2005 11:30 AM

More gossip
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Beats jackin' off on a beach.
Spoken like someone who has never experienced a sandy vagina.

ThurgreedMarshall 08-25-2005 11:31 AM

More gossip
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Spoken like someone who has never experienced a sandy vagina.
Translation: I fucked paigow.

TM

ltl/fb 08-25-2005 11:39 AM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I would like to know what this term means to this board.
Someone who is far too moronic to understand what you have pointed out time and time again about calories in versus calories used.

ncs, if you tire of Mr. Man, I have a 23-y-o for you. Oh, wait, he's too short.

Bad_Rich_Chic 08-25-2005 11:51 AM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spookyfish
Me too. In its original context, this was the "full-figured" gal.

http://images.art.com/images/product...0/10101551.jpg
Yup, good ole Jane Russell. However, I note that, while "full figured" was long ago intended to mean "busty or hourglass" it's been co-opted by the "busty - and also hippy, wiggly, jiggly, etc." and now effectively means "fat."

"Curvy," which was the main replacement for "full figured," is going the same way, thanks in no small part to "Real Women Have Curves," a great movie but one in which the women didn't so much have curves as sphericalness. "Womanly" is up next.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-25-2005 11:55 AM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
"Curvy," which was the main replacement for "full figured," is going the same way, thanks in no small part to "Real Women Have Curves," a great movie but one in which the women didn't so much have curves as sphericalness. "Womanly" is up next.
I liked Real Women have Curves too, but at the same time it drives me bonkers that if you are not fat you are somehow "unreal." Not that I mind being imaginary because of all the magical benefits it provides, but still. Enough of this "real" crap.

ltl/fb 08-25-2005 11:58 AM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I liked Real Women have Curves too, but at the same time it drives me bonkers that if you are not fat you are somehow "unreal." Not that I mind being imaginary because of all the magical benefits it provides, but still. Enough of this "real" crap.
I think the implication was more that the uncurvy are fake than that they are imaginary.

pony_trekker 08-25-2005 12:02 PM

Malcolm Gladwell article
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
All you Gladwell fans (or not such) may be interested to know that he's got a new piece in this week's New Yorker. He takes on what's wrong with our health care system. I haven't read the whole article yet but my first impression (hi SD and TS) is that he's pretty spot on about the source of the problems.

It's available online here.
I support the idea that health care is the government's responsibility. The Bush presidency will long be remembered as the first step toward making this country a third world one.

pony_trekker 08-25-2005 12:05 PM

More gossip
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Spoken like someone who has never experienced a sandy vagina.
I thought those were scabs. But anyway, I am faster than sand.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-25-2005 12:06 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I think the implication was more that the uncurvy are fake than that they are imaginary.
I don't know, fringey - there are a lot of fake women with curves out there. It's very misleading.

notcasesensitive 08-25-2005 12:07 PM

Malcolm Gladwell article
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pony_trekker
I support the idea that health care is the government's responsibility. The Bush presidency will long be remembered as the first step toward making this country a third world one.
If the premise of Collapse (Jared Diamond; great book) is to be believed, his environmental policies are also taking us down that path.

ltl/fb 08-25-2005 12:11 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I don't know, fringey - there are a lot of fake women with curves out there. It's very misleading.
agreed (see ANS) but really there was no otherworldliness in that movie, where there were ghosts or whatever of skinny women.

In other news, I had dreams about a guy I dated more than half my life ago (and never had sex with) all night and woke up from one of them coming. Nice start to the day -- much better than coming to work to discover that once again we are going to have the discussion of what, exactly, constitutes disgustingly fat.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 08-25-2005 12:17 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
agreed (see ANS) but really there was no otherworldliness in that movie, where there were ghosts or whatever of skinny women.

In other news, I had dreams about a guy I dated more than half my life ago (and never had sex with) all night and woke up from one of them coming.
Was there a wet spot?

greatwhitenorthchick 08-25-2005 12:18 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
agreed (see ANS) but really there was no otherworldliness in that movie, where there were ghosts or whatever of skinny women.
I know. I was just being silly about the imaginary part.
I am glad you had a good dream.

NotFromHere 08-25-2005 12:20 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spookyfish
Me too. In its original context, this was the "full-figured" gal.

http://images.art.com/images/product...0/10101551.jpg
No. Jane Russell was a calendar girl. She was not full figured until she was old. And fat. And did the bra commercials. When she was old. And fat.

ltl/fb 08-25-2005 12:23 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Was there a wet spot?
No. In reality, I was alone, and nothing was hitting the place that might have resulted in that.

nononono 08-25-2005 12:26 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Yup, good ole Jane Russell. However, I note that, while "full figured" was long ago intended to mean "busty or hourglass" it's been co-opted by the "busty - and also hippy, wiggly, jiggly, etc." and now effectively means "fat."

"Curvy," which was the main replacement for "full figured," is going the same way, thanks in no small part to "Real Women Have Curves," a great movie but one in which the women didn't so much have curves as sphericalness. "Womanly" is up next.
Can't we blame Jane Russell herself for that? Didn't she - in later years when less hourglassy and more round - tout those Playtex 18-hour monster bras for "full figured gals"? Took any allure right out of the phrase right there.

Hate that "real women" terminology - seems to imply not only what gwnc and ltl/fb said, but also that that is what you should now aspire to.

And I say that as a fake woman with apparently exceedingly minor curves.

Mr. Split Infinitive 08-25-2005 12:28 PM

New Rule
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Worse than Mr. Split Infinitive?
Indeed I do suck. But it's nice to ultimately know that you are still suckier than me. You and your lot are the suckiest bunch of sucks who have ever sucked.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-25-2005 12:29 PM

Malcolm Gladwell article
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
If the premise of Collapse (Jared Diamond; great book) is to be believed, his environmental policies are also taking us down that path.
I hate Bush as much as the next guy, but these "Bush is destroying life as we know it" books are a silly cottage industry. Things go in cycles. There'll be a liberal correction. Pendulums swings, etc...

What won't be cured ever is the cynicism Rove has made acceptable in politics. Just when you thought they couldn't reach new depths...

ltl/fb 08-25-2005 12:29 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by nononono
Can't we blame Jane Russell herself for that? Didn't she - in later years when less hourglassy and more round - tout those Playtex 18-hour monster bras for "full figured gals"? Took any allure right out of the phrase right there.

Hate that "real women" terminology - seems to imply not only what gwnc and ltl/fb said, but also that that is what you should now aspire to.

And I say that as a fake woman with apparently exceedingly minor curves.
"Gal" drains the allure out of even the most seductive phrases.

So, I've started rereading the Dorothy Sayers books I have -- most of which were printed in 60s -- I stole them from my parents a long time ago. I think I'm going to buy the ones I don't have so that I have the whole set. I think it'll be interesting to see the contrast in the cover designs.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 08-25-2005 12:31 PM

New Rule
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
To think, he will never tap some strange again. He is offically Sebby.
Sweet. I do enjoy mindless bloviation.

NotFromHere 08-25-2005 12:31 PM

New Rule
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Split Infinitive
Indeed I do suck. But it's nice to ultimately know that you are still suckier than me. You and your lot are the suckiest bunch of sucks who have ever sucked.
My lot? I have a lot?
Where is this lot?

spookyfish 08-25-2005 12:31 PM

Advice requested.
 
Okay. So this coming weekend, I may or may not be involved in certain traditional festivities involving a friend of mine from law school, which may or may not involve me getting up in front of a group of people who may or may not be drunk and speaking about/giving best wishes to said friend and said friend's significant other. Did I mention that the group of people of whom I am speaking may or may not be friends or relatives of my friend and said friend's significant other? Did I also mention that I don't actually know many of these people besides said friend and said friend's significant other?

I am a little rusty in terms of what makes a good speech/best wishes message for such an event, and I'm interested in hearing any suggestions about how this might be as meaningful/painless for everybody as possible.

Did I also mention that I may or may not be drunk by then and I am trying to avoid any catastrophes of Costanzian proportions?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

spookyfish 08-25-2005 12:32 PM

New Rule
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
My lot? I have a lot?
Where is this lot?
Hiding in the shade of your full-figured ass.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-25-2005 12:32 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
agreed (see ANS) but really there was no otherworldliness in that movie, where there were ghosts or whatever of skinny women.

In other news, I had dreams about a guy I dated more than half my life ago (and never had sex with) all night and woke up from one of them coming. Nice start to the day -- much better than coming to work to discover that once again we are going to have the discussion of what, exactly, constitutes disgustingly fat.
The female orgasm is such a better gig. When you're a young guy, having a dream like that involves getting changed afterward, and lots of kleenex. When you're in your 30s, you don't even get those dreams any more.


Did you just call me Coltrane? 08-25-2005 12:33 PM

New Rule
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
At least he can look forward to the soft alcoholism of middle age.
Things are looking up for Coltrane! Who knew all this fun was in front of me! I am already anticitipating Wife #2! I hope she has big jugs.

NotFromHere 08-25-2005 12:34 PM

New Rule
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spookyfish
Hiding in the shade of your full-figured ass.
I am 114 on the internet.

notcasesensitive 08-25-2005 12:35 PM

Malcolm Gladwell article
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I hate Bush as much as the next guy, but these "Bush is destroying life as we know it" books are a silly cottage industry. Things go in cycles. There'll be a liberal correction. Pendulums swings, etc...

What won't be cured ever is the cynicism Rove has made acceptable in politics. Just when you thought they couldn't reach new depths...
The book has nothing really to do with Bush. It has to do with the collapse of societies as a result of destruction of their environment. It might have one gratuitous mention of Bush in its 600-odd pages. The commentary was mine. Alas, I made no profit off of it. Perhaps I should write a book.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-25-2005 12:37 PM

New Rule
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I am 114 on the internet.
Are you over five feet?

ltl/fb 08-25-2005 12:37 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The female orgasm is such a better gig. When you're a young guy, having a dream like that involves getting changed afterward, and lots of kleenex. When you're in your 30s, you don't even get those dreams any more.
It feels good though, right? And you had them a lot? I've only had this happen a handful of times.

And, on a related note, I'm shocked to hear that you sleep in clothing even though you never wear underwear during the day. My whole image of you has changed.

Not Bob 08-25-2005 12:37 PM

"Full Figured"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I liked Real Women have Curves too, but at the same time it drives me bonkers that if you are not fat you are somehow "unreal." Not that I mind being imaginary because of all the magical benefits it provides, but still. Enough of this "real" crap.
I take it more as being directed at the media/fashion industry, and the airbrushing and editing that creates a false image. Like that Jamie Lee Curtis (where is bilmore, anyway?) thing from a few years ago -- where she did a photo spread showing the difference between the original pictures and how they looked post editing. Or the Kate Winslet ass-trimming on the cover of Vogue or whatever.

That being said, I kinda hope that this doesn't devolve into the usual "fat people should be shot" thread that we seem to create here every so often.

Sparklehorse 08-25-2005 12:37 PM

Malcolm Gladwell article
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I hate Bush as much as the next guy, but these "Bush is destroying life as we know it" books are a silly cottage industry. Things go in cycles. There'll be a liberal correction. Pendulums swings, etc...

What won't be cured ever is the cynicism Rove has made acceptable in politics. Just when you thought they couldn't reach new depths...
Actually an important theme to Diamond's book (as I read it although I admit I got bored halfway through and put it down and haven't picked it back up) is that it's not too late for us to fix things.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 08-25-2005 12:38 PM

Advice requested.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spookyfish
Okay. So this coming weekend, I may or may not be involved in certain traditional festivities involving a friend of mine from law school, which may or may not involve me getting up in front of a group of people who may or may not be drunk and speaking about/giving best wishes to said friend and said friend's significant other. Did I mention that the group of people of whom I am speaking may or may not be friends or relatives of my friend and said friend's significant other? Did I also mention that I don't actually know many of these people besides said friend and said friend's significant other?

I am a little rusty in terms of what makes a good speech/best wishes message for such an event, and I'm interested in hearing any suggestions about how this might be as meaningful/painless for everybody as possible.

Did I also mention that I may or may not be drunk by then and I am trying to avoid any catastrophes of Costanzian proportions?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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