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Adder 05-24-2018 12:24 PM

Re: Whew
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515272)
They went trawling for dirt and were happy to take it from Russians.

Sounds like you've not been keeping up with the news, dude.

LessinSF 05-24-2018 12:31 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
I am in MPLS if anyone wants to meet for drinks. Text me at 415.990.3487

Tyrone Slothrop 05-24-2018 01:28 PM

Re: Whew
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515272)
That's laughably overwrought. They went trawling for dirt and were happy to take it from Russians.

Non-rhetorical questions: Why do you think that's all that happened? Among other things, it's pretty clear that it wasn't just Russians. And why don't you assume that there wasn't some quid pro quo?

Tyrone Slothrop 05-24-2018 01:33 PM

Re: Whew
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515276)
Maybe my standard is a bit higher than yours, but this isn't looking like Watergate on Steroids.

Seriously, WTF are you talking about? By any objective measure, so far this is bigger than Watergate. Republicans stood by Nixon during Watergate, too. Until they didn't.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-24-2018 01:34 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 515281)
I am in MPLS if anyone wants to meet for drinks. Text me at 415.990.3487

Lunch from Señor Sisig when you're back? Slave can come too. And anyone else who wants in.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-24-2018 01:34 PM

A Strong Female Lead
 
Don’t know about the show, but this trailer is awesome: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8uArRFr7_YY

sebastian_dangerfield 05-24-2018 01:37 PM

Re: Whew
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515282)
Non-rhetorical questions: Why do you think that's all that happened? Among other things, it's pretty clear that it wasn't just Russians. And why don't you assume that there wasn't some quid pro quo?

Because Russia is on a campaign to destabilize all Western govts by, among other things, fucking with elections.

Because I haven’t seen convincing evidence of a quid pro quo. It’s no crime or conspiracy to borrow from Russians.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-24-2018 01:41 PM

Re: Whew
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 515283)
Seriously, WTF are you talking about? By any objective measure, so far this is bigger than Watergate. Republicans stood by Nixon during Watergate, too. Until they didn't.

Flynn’s the highest quality scalp they’ll get here.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-24-2018 01:45 PM

Re: Whew
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 515280)
Sounds like you've not been keeping up with the news, dude.

Saudis, UAE... So what. They give to and work behind scenes with everybody. He’ll probably have sketchy interactions with Israelis and Turks as well.

You talk about this like this admin is unique in having shady deals/discussions with these govts. It’s icky business. Ya think the Bushes were squeaky clean? The Clintons were certainly transactional.

Trump’s just dumb about it. And under more intense scrutiny.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-24-2018 02:02 PM

Re: Whew
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515286)
Because Russia is on a campaign to destabilize all Western govts by, among other things, fucking with elections.

My point: It's pretty clear that it wasn't just Russia.

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Because I haven’t seen convincing evidence of a quid pro quo. It’s no crime or conspiracy to borrow from Russians.
Is smoke convincing evidence of a fire, or do you actually need to be burned by the fire to believe in it? I haven't seen "convincing evidence" of a quid pro quo either, nor would I expect to have. But I'm also not the one opining authoritatively that Mueller's investigation is overblown. Mueller isn't talking. All we know about what's got is from a few public actions and leaks from defense attorneys.

Oh, wait -- that understates things. You also have a President who is frantically trying to derail the investigation. Hard to imagine how Trump could act more guilty. And you have rampant corruption on the part of Trump and people up and down throughout his government and the Trump Organization. Smoke, but no fire.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-24-2018 02:03 PM

Re: Whew
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515287)
Flynn’s the highest quality scalp they’ll get here.

Do prosecutors usually cut easy deals with the highest-quality scalps so they can shop downmarket? I. Don't. Think. So.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-24-2018 02:04 PM

Re: Whew
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515288)
Saudis, UAE... So what. They give to and work behind scenes with everybody. He’ll probably have sketchy interactions with Israelis and Turks as well.

You talk about this like this admin is unique in having shady deals/discussions with these govts. It’s icky business. Ya think the Bushes were squeaky clean? The Clintons were certainly transactional.

Trump’s just dumb about it. And under more intense scrutiny.

Bush, Clinton, Trump -- all basically the same in terms of their corrupt dealings with foreign autocrats.

If you believe this, you're an idiot. But we all know you don't. If you were posting on a Trump board, you'd be telling them why he's f*cked.

Adder 05-24-2018 02:20 PM

Re: Whew
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515286)
It’s no crime or conspiracy to borrow from Russians.

Except that there's no evidence that he borrowed. He just starting buying things - golf courses, etc - with cash.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-24-2018 02:22 PM

Re: We are all Slave now.
 
Dude has my proxy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd-J-bjU8AAZ3dA.jpg:large

Adder 05-24-2018 02:23 PM

Re: Whew
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 515288)
Saudis, UAE... So what. They give to and work behind scenes with everybody. He’ll probably have sketchy interactions with Israelis and Turks as well.

You talk about this like this admin is unique in having shady deals/discussions with these govts. It’s icky business. Ya think the Bushes were squeaky clean? The Clintons were certainly transactional.

Trump’s just dumb about it. And under more intense scrutiny.

I do not believe that the Clintons or the Bushes sent their bag man to collect funds from around the world in exchange for access, no, much less, with respect to that Iran deal and our relationship with Qatar, appear to have changed policy because of it.


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