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And there is the rub.

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President Gavin.

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Inflation.

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0.0001% chance. Worst possible candidate.

Harris is candidate is my guess. Her chances? Even money. I don't buy these Trump favorable polls. He won by freak luck in 2016. I cannot see how he's dominant eight years later, particularly up against the Democratic Party's ground game and mail in voting.

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Sooner or later. I don't love him, but I think his political strengths are massive, and underrated by the commentariat.

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It doesn't seem like Biden wants to step down.

If he does, it's got to be Harris, because she is the VP and because her supporters in the Democratic Party -- who are key constituencies -- would feel betrayed, legitimately, if anyone else were elevated above her.

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JB Pritzker! I'm biased though - I've met him and he is a super nice guy.

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How about Penske? If you count all his socks that is almost all 50 states!

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Vote Penske/Kodos!

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her chances are zero.

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I hear this a lot, but it’s never offered with an explanation. Do you have one?

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Agreed. She also polls better than the rest.

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Black woman. Sexism and racism in one nice package.

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America. The home of sexism and racism.

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Racists and sexists weren’t voting for Biden anyway. And Harris may hold the soccer moms of the upper middle class who might walk away from Biden now.

I’m often wrong on politics, but I think she’s a far better candidate than Biden, and polling suggests she’s better positioned to beat Trump.

And what are the options? Newsom can’t win this cycle (or any other, IMO, as he’s perceived as “woke,” which kills all chances). Whitmer is a great candidate but not well enough known. Michelle Obama would lose and is too smart to run for President. Pritzker presides over an economic dumpster fire of a state.

I think Harris could kick Trump’s ass in the second debate, after which the media will slot Trump into the “dementia bucket” in which it has placed Biden. That would wreck Trump.

Question is will the Party take such decisive action, or will it dither and allow Joe to run out the clock?

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Those things have a home in lots of countries.

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It was an economic dumpster fire. He has raised the level to economic waste basket fire.

This state is still a mess, but Illinois saw its ninth credit rating upgrade in just over two years as of November 2023. It's going to take a while to claw out, but under his watch things have definitely gotten better. I can't remember the last time that's been said about an Illinois governor (although most of them end up in prison, so it's a low bar).

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Fun fact. I was almost in a band with his cousin Dan as a singer but got dinged at the last second by Bob Ezrin for having a voice that was “too boyish”.

Dan was an incredibly nice guy. I had no idea who he was until I got a Northwestern law school catalog and saw the Pritzker name all over the place.

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And how many have elected a black woman as CIC?

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Passing her over would kill base turnout. Would def cost them Michigan. I’m not saying she would be a shoe in, but “not her” would have a steep climb.

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And gives a damn good blow job, per Mayor Willie Brown.

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Assassination?

Game over.

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Just when things seemed to be normalizing.

People need to take a fucking Xanax and stop thinking politics is a zero-sum game for the future of humanity.

The rot from which lunacy like that which we saw on Saturday stems started way back with Newt Gingrich going after the Clintons like they were enemies of the state. There's a straight line from Ken Starr to the Russiagate debacle to the Hunter Biden prosecution and through the Trump NY criminal and civil fraud cases. Banana republic behavior. A lunatic belief that everything is so fucking important, all means are on the table.

Joe gets elected this fall? The sun will rise. Trump gets elected? The sun will rise. Might it cost you in one way or another? Sure, but generally, what you lose in one area gets replaced in another.

Case in point... I scanned the salient points of 2025 Project. It's disturbing, and it's batshit crazy. But it's also entirely contingent on an administrative state being able to implement its edicts. It's dependent on the power of agencies to enforce. The very same agencies that were just stripped of a ton of power under Loper. If you look at 2025 in relation to Loper, you see the Chamber of Commerce wing of the GOP pre-emptively gelding the Heritage Foundation/Religious Right wing of it.

Yes, who is President matters to certain groups who are dependent on the state. But here we're also faced with a false choice. One can vote D and they'll make sure people like us, and the very rich, and the very poor, are catered to. While the working and middle class gets lip service and called "racists" for voting for the GOP. One can vote R and they'll make sure people like us, those richer than us, and small to midsized businesses are catered to while those mostly or totally dependent on the state are ignored.

Either way, you're voting for a sector of society to get fucked. Because neither of these parties help all the groups comprising society. Their serving of slightly different constituencies is what makes them a choice each election. Congrats if you're of the upper middle class or above - you get to choose who below loses something in service to you keeping something.

This is why I giggle when people bring morality into politics in regard to the parties' treatment of the folks at the lower rungs. Ain't nothing moral in being asked to select who gets porridge and who gets cruel. The argument one should favor the truly desperate over the hard working but still struggling is no better than the argument one should favor the hard working and still struggling over the truly desperate.

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Might help controlling Putin?

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And this is one of the reasons I pop in every now and again.

Seb, I disagree with you about - hmm, perhaps - 10% on this post, but that's splitting hairs and not worth the time or effort to parse. You pretty much nailed it to the wall.

With regard to this weekend, I want accountability. If this loser in charge of Secret Service doesn't resign this week, then it will feed millions of conspiracy posts, just making everything even worse.

SlaveNo(Ugh Ugh Ugh)More

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The worst are those who goofed on R conspiracy theories calling the thing fake because Trump was asking for his shoes. Two people died. How can you think it was faked, especially given the secret service being there?

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I think the boring reality will be:

1. Butler is heavily Trump area, and there are no tall buildings around that farm, so Secret Service was probably a wee bit less vigilant than usual.
2. The shooter is another mentally ill misfit who happened to have a dad with an AR-15.

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I cannot see the midwest supporting him. He comes off as slimy to me. But maybe more exposure would change that.

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We've had this conversation before, but you need to broader your definition of both of those words. There are people who do not like her based on those characteristics, whether they know it or not.

Recall how TM supported Biden in the primaries last time around because he didn't trust old white people to vote for anyone but an old white man?

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Have seen a plausible theory that the shooter was a right-winger (and mentally ill misfit?) who had supported Trump and who listened to a right-wing podcast days previously who complained that Trump was betraying conservative values.

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Newer stories make it sound less ideological, and more just a story about a young man with a gun.

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I mean I don't care, I'd vote for her in a heart beat but, ya know.

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It sounded like he looked up both Trump and Biden's schedules, and Trump happened to be closer to his hometown.

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You are voting for the Dem. Me too. We ain’t deciding the election.

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Those words describe an intentional manner of thinking which involves agency. The word for the thing you've described is unconscious bias. I may seem to be quibbling, but given we are in Orwellian times, classical definitions of important words are, I think, important to recognize.

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The Monday morning quarterbacking is ridiculous. Every common fool is now an expert on mass participant event security.

"They left him on the roof for more than a minute!"

This is why I detested Plaintiffs' cases. Most things are not a result of true negligence. They are caused by a confluence of events not all of which could ever be foreseen. But that doesn't stop people crafting a narrative that it's someone's fault, someone's negligence.

Everybody needs a fucking story about why something happened.

I'd say what deserves opprobrium here is our demand that this event be explained to us as a narrative. The fact that despite modern man having been here for thousands of years, we still haven't shed that idiot gene that compels us to have to turn every random set of acts or omissions into a "story" that seems satisfying is really fucking pathetic.

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I remember when Palin was nominated. My 20 year old daughter had never been politically involved. Suddenly she was geeked- imagine a woman for VP! Then Palin became, well, you remember.

But I truly think Harris can turn out more women and people of color. Hillary lost vote because of gender, I know, but I got to believe she gained lots too. She lost for other reasons.

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Kinda amazed how poorly prepared the Trump people were for this day.

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One side brought us closer to national health care. The other ended Roe v. Wade. One of those things is not like the other.

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People complain (from a distance) about California being hell but he is a very very strong speaker. He would obliterate Trump so that he would just crawl inside his poop diaper.