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pony_trekker 08-31-2005 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by mmm3587
Isn't a guy who doesn't drive much giving car advice kind of like a guy who doesn't like getting oral sex talking about his favorite fellatio techniques?

Anyway, yeah, the LCs are nice, if you want something that big and significant. Going there from a 325i would be like jumping from your 5 series (you have one of those, too, right?) to an Excursion. If getting around in the winter is your concern, an all-wheel drive car with good winter tires makes a lot more sense to me than a massive, lumbersome luxury SUV with poor gas mileage. Even if it is a really well thought-out Toyota one.
Being that gas prices went up 25 cents a gallon between going and coming a LC is out of the question.

I have a 3 series (only) and will be either staying with that, getting a new manual one, or getting a Civic.

BMWs are fine in snow with snow tires.

pony_trekker 09-02-2005 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker
Being that gas prices went up 25 cents a gallon between going and coming a LC is out of the question.

I have a 3 series (only) and will be either staying with that, getting a new manual one, or getting a Civic.

BMWs are fine in snow with snow tires.
Maybe a diesel Jetta.

NotFromHere 09-02-2005 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker
Being that gas prices went up 25 cents a gallon between going and coming a LC is out of the question.

I have a 3 series (only) and will be either staying with that, getting a new manual one, or getting a Civic.

BMWs are fine in snow with snow tires.
If you're going to get a Honda, get an Accord. It's heavier and better in the snow. Plus you can get a hybrid if you so desire. And fuck the gas companies (sorry Billy).

pony_trekker 09-02-2005 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by NotFromHere
If you're going to get a Honda, get an Accord. It's heavier and better in the snow. Plus you can get a hybrid if you so desire. And fuck the gas companies (sorry Billy).
Been there done that. While my 4 cyl accord was slightly better than my BMW on the streets (honda 24 mpg and bmw 20 MPG) the BMW is better on the highway (homda 27 mpg to bmw 34 mpg).

Fuck the gas companies.

NotFromHere 09-02-2005 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker
Been there done that. While my 4 cyl accord was slightly better than my BMW on the streets (honda 24 mpg and bmw 20 MPG) the BMW is better on the highway (homda 27 mpg to bmw 34 mpg).

Fuck the gas companies.
The hybrid quotes 37 mpg highway and 29 city. My 3 series used to average close to 33.
Fuck the blood-sucking leeches.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-02-2005 04:12 PM

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And fuck the gas companies (sorry Billy).
You should blame CARB and Boxer.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-02-2005 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker

Fuck the gas companies.
You should blame the NY legislature for adopting CARB standards. And Spitzer.

Flinty_McFlint 09-02-2005 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by NotFromHere
If you're going to get a Honda, get an Accord. It's heavier and better in the snow. Plus you can get a hybrid if you so desire. And fuck the gas companies (sorry Billy).
Is FWD better than RWD in the snow? Having lived in California all my life, I don't really know. I was in a mustang with a friend who managed to spin it into a snowbank in Tahoe once. Good times.

robustpuppy 09-02-2005 04:51 PM

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Is FWD better than RWD in the snow? Having lived in California all my life, I don't really know. I was in a mustang with a friend who managed to spin it into a snowbank in Tahoe once. Good times.
Ooh, fun. I had a RWD car in my snowy college town and parked it behind my apt bldg. Access to the lot was through an alley that went downhill going in, and, of course, uphill coming out.

Backing up the alley after a snowstorm when the ice cover from the previous storm hadn't ever melted: great times.

mmm3587 09-02-2005 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Is FWD better than RWD in the snow? Having lived in California all my life, I don't really know. I was in a mustang with a friend who managed to spin it into a snowbank in Tahoe once. Good times.
Generally, yes, because you have more weight over the front tires than the rear tires in most cars. But it really has to do with weight distribution, tire design/quality and whatever electronic systems (stability, traction control, ABS) you have.

I think that the 3er has a 50/50 weight distribution; so it is good as long as you understand that, without help from all the electronics, you will oversteer significantly in poor conditions.

NotFromHere 09-02-2005 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Is FWD better than RWD in the snow? Having lived in California all my life, I don't really know. I was in a mustang with a friend who managed to spin it into a snowbank in Tahoe once. Good times.
Mostly yes. The worst cars I've ever driven in the snow were a Corvette (that was fucking scary) and a 200sx which was a rental from the insurance company when my G20 was being repaired because some schmuck ran a stop sign.

pony_trekker 09-02-2005 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You should blame the NY legislature for adopting CARB standards. And Spitzer.
Red Herring. Gas companies were looking for an excuse to bust $3, now that they could, they are going to bust $4 and $5. Rape the American People.

pony_trekker 09-02-2005 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Is FWD better than RWD in the snow?
Yes because the weight (engine) over the wheels makes the car handle better. But, if you put true snow tires on a RWD it will handle fine.

futbol fan 09-02-2005 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker
Yes because the weight (engine) over the wheels makes the car handle better. But, if you put true snow tires on a RWD it will handle fine.
I put Thurgreed's Momma in the trunk of my car when it snows. Problem solved.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-02-2005 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Is FWD better than RWD in the snow? Having lived in California all my life, I don't really know. I was in a mustang with a friend who managed to spin it into a snowbank in Tahoe once. Good times.
Not inherently. They have this reputation in part because RWD cars, such as mustangs and corvettes, come with tires ill-equipped to handle snow. And, also, because the car is pulling rather than pushing, they're less likely to fishtail as a result of driver error, and therefore appear to handle less badly in snow.

Properly equipped and driven, an RWD car will be fine in snow.


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