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SlaveNoMore 05-20-2004 01:30 PM

marginalizing Sadr
 
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y Tyrone Slothrop
and before we recommenced our strategy of bombing wedding parties,*
"Wedding Party"

Not that anyone in the media thought to question why there was a wedding going on at 2am on a tuesday evening - at a known safehouse - but hey, what the hell. Let's fan the flames of discontent.

Hell, why not up the ante and say it was a "gay wedding party". You know, to upset another entire demographic.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-20-2004 01:30 PM

message to Burger
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Dipping into the strategic reserve will have a minimal impact. At most, it might pressure the Saudis to start upping production, which would have a more lasting effect. However, that's assuming the Saudis are in a mood to help us out right now. I'm not detecting any warm fuzzies from that quarter, though.
Hey, the question was directed to me. Stick to your flat tax.

But, sort of what you said. Except that it won't exert pressure to up any production overseas. Why would it? If anything, it would reduce overseas production, because the incentives to pump and sell are lower, given the lower price, and the recognition that the price will go up as soon as the spigot stops.

Besides, it's too early to start using the reserve. I'd start it around July 1, getting the supplies out to refineries by July 15, just in time to remove the issue for late July. But I'd only use half. I'd save the remainder for use in mid-September. Unless, of course, there's a deal with the saudis.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-20-2004 01:32 PM

John McCain
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
He knows the background. That is irrelevant, because John McCain was criticizing the fiscal policies of the Bush administration and the GOP leadership in Congress.
Isn't it like a fat guy calling someone a "fatso" as an insult? There are plenty of digs to level at McCain, but sacrifice for country is not one of them.

Even Bush hasn't been so stupid as to question significantly Kerry's war record. It's just not a battle that can be won.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-20-2004 01:37 PM

marginalizing Sadr
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Hell, why not up the ante and say it was a "gay wedding party". You know, to upset another entire demographic.
I think that demographic is already pretty enflamed.

SlaveNoMore 05-20-2004 01:48 PM

marginalizing Sadr
 
Quote:

Tyrone Slothrop
I think that demographic is already pretty enflamed.
You lose your sense of humor this morning?

ETA: "flaming" may have been way too obvious, but at least I would have got it. More coffee dammit

Tyrone Slothrop 05-20-2004 01:51 PM

marginalizing Sadr
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You lose your sense of humor this morning?
Well, someone's sense of humor isn't kicking in here.....

ltl/fb 05-20-2004 01:51 PM

Welcome to the Big Tent
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I understood what he said, I think.

You may wish to either drink more or post less when drinking.

S_A_M
I understood what he said, he just said it in a way oversimplified, and therefore inaccurate, way. I even understand how a flat tax works. I am at a loss as to how stick figures could be used to make flat taxes clearer, though.

I don't generally drink much in the morning. Your experience may vary.

ltl/fb 05-20-2004 01:52 PM

marginalizing Sadr
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
"Wedding Party"

Not that anyone in the media thought to question why there was a wedding going on at 2am on a tuesday evening - at a known safehouse - but hey, what the hell. Let's fan the flames of discontent.

Hell, why not up the ante and say it was a "gay wedding party". You know, to upset another entire demographic.
What kind of boring-ass weddings do you go to that they are over before 2 am?

Now I'm thinking all that goes on in your kitchen is rats eating roaches.

Not Me 05-20-2004 01:58 PM

Why isn't anyone talking about conservation?
 
The price of gas wouldn't be such a problem in this country if everyone drove more fuel efficient cars.

People are stoopid.

SlaveNoMore 05-20-2004 02:01 PM

marginalizing Sadr
 
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ltl/fb
What kind of boring-ass weddings do you go to that they are over before 2 am?
Sweetie, just because you continue to assault the buffett table for hours after the "last dance" of the evening does not, in fact, mean that the wedding isn't over.

sgtclub 05-20-2004 02:13 PM

Andrew Sullivan, about to jump ship
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
(b) So long as you realize that any tax rate you choose to call "stealing" is a purely arbitrary decision on your part, rock on.

S_A_M
It is and its not. I think there are items provided by the federal government that we all can agree should be provided - a military for one. So the tax rate necessary to support these items is not arbitrary.

ltl/fb 05-20-2004 02:22 PM

Andrew Sullivan, about to jump ship
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
It is and its not. I think there are items provided by the federal government that we all can agree should be provided - a military for one. So the tax rate necessary to support these items is not arbitrary.
Don't forget the people who make the zoning decisions.

ltl/fb 05-20-2004 02:24 PM

marginalizing Sadr
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Sweetie, just because you continue to assault the buffett table for hours after the "last dance" of the evening does not, in fact, mean that the wedding isn't over.
He'd apparently been saving up abd didn't tell me, and I was overwhelmed and surprised, and my head bumped the table. I wouldn't call that an assault on the table.

Hank Chinaski 05-20-2004 02:25 PM

marginalizing Sadr
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Sweetie, just because you continue to assault the buffett table for hours after the "last dance" of the evening does not, in fact, mean that the wedding isn't over.
Whiff. She's pretty thin.

It's more like Just because all the single male guests have hooked up and left, doesn't mean the one busboy is out of reach.

ltl/fb 05-20-2004 02:27 PM

marginalizing Sadr
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Whiff. She's pretty thin.
Wow, you are hard up.

SlaveNoMore 05-20-2004 02:32 PM

Ho Ho Ho
 
Quote:

Hank Chinaski
Whiff. She's pretty thin.
I guess this is all very subjective.

Let's do a test. How would you define, say, Mrs. Claus?

Gattigap 05-20-2004 02:38 PM

A conservative's justification for reading Slate
 
While the Dems on this board are away watching Brit Hume on FNC and admiring his ability to switch off on both advocacy and the chairs in which he sits, may I suggest a periodic diversion for the GOPers into that cesspool of liberal thought, Slate.

Slate has coupled its longstanding "Bushism" feature with a new set of "Kerryisms," which pokes fun at the "pomposity and evasiveness" of JFK. They first give you the quote as an English speaker would probably utter it, and then show you the actual quote Kerry uttered, which shows what 24 years in the Senate will do to a person.

Quote:

Question: You talked about the overextension of the troops. Do you think this course is ultimately going to lead to the institution of the draft?

Kerry [the cogent version]: [No]1. I would be against that2. I don't think we need it3, 4. [The president ought to]5, 6, 7, 8, reduce the overexposure9 of America's commitments. A proper approach to the Korean Peninsula, for instance, should include the deployment of troops, the unresolved issues of the 1950s, and10, 11 could result in a reduction of American presence12.

—New York City, April 14, 2004

[1] I hope not

[2] in the current form

[3] now

[4] particularly if we did the proper diplomacy

[5] The effort of the president ought to be to try to find ways to

[6] overall

[7] right now

[8] really

[9] in a sense

[10] ultimately

[11] hopefully

[12] ultimately

Kerry version [actual, mangled version]:
I hope not. I would be against that in the current form. I don't think we need it now, particularly if we did the proper diplomacy. The overall effort of the president right now ought to be really to try to find ways to reduce the overexposure, in a sense, of America's commitments. A proper approach to the Korean Peninsula, for instance, should include the deployment of troops, the unresolved issues of the 1950s, and ultimately, hopefully, could result in a reduction of American presence, ultimately.
Gattigap

ltl/fb 05-20-2004 02:39 PM

Ho Ho Ho
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I guess this is all very subjective.

Let's do a test. How would you define, say, Mrs. Claus?
Slave, I did not want to have to tell you this because of your love for picking on people who have psychological problems, but since you and all your friends started pointing at me and screaming "fat pig! oink oink oink oink!" in that fancy restaurant where my new boyfriend's family was meeting me for the first time, I have developed bulimia. I'm sure there is no connection and you should not feel bad. I'm just telling you that I am simultaneously piggy and skinny. And I have bad breath and my teeth look like shit.

taxwonk 05-20-2004 02:40 PM

marginalizing Sadr
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Whiff. She's pretty thin.

It's more like Just because all the single male guests have hooked up and left, doesn't mean the one busboy is out of reach.
You must have really been drunk when you met. Either that, or you are truly desperate and hoping that her capacity for self-delusion equals or exceeds her capacity for fucking anything she can chain to a post long enough.

taxwonk 05-20-2004 02:44 PM

Ho Ho Ho
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Slave, I did not want to have to tell you this because of your love for picking on people who have psychological problems, but since you and all your friends started pointing at me and screaming "fat pig! oink oink oink oink!" in that fancy restaurant where my new boyfriend's family was meeting me for the first time, I have developed bulimia. I'm sure there is no connection and you should not feel bad. I'm just telling you that I am simultaneously piggy and skinny. And I have bad breath and my teeth look like shit.
Except for that "boyfriend" blunder, you're story would have been almost believable.

SlaveNoMore 05-20-2004 02:44 PM

Ho Ho Ho
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Slave, I did not want to have to tell you this because of your love for picking on people who have psychological problems, but since you and all your friends started pointing at me and screaming "fat pig! oink oink oink oink!" in that fancy restaurant where my new boyfriend's family was meeting me for the first time, I have developed bulimia. I'm sure there is no connection and you should not feel bad. I'm just telling you that I am simultaneously piggy and skinny. And I have bad breath and my teeth look like shit.
This is compelling stuff. I'm thinking Oprah caliber

baltassoc 05-20-2004 03:10 PM

Welcome to the Big Tent
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
So you flood part of Wyoming [with black, stinking crude oil]. Would anyone notice?
You know Wyoming is were all the T. Rexs come from, right? Just thinking you might be self interested.

Not Me 05-20-2004 04:23 PM

A conservative's justification for reading Slate
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
While the Dems on this board are away watching Brit Hume on FNC and admiring his ability to switch off on both advocacy and the chairs in which he sits, may I suggest a periodic diversion for the GOPers into that cesspool of liberal thought, Slate.
Thought this was a good article in Slate:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2100717/

Tyrone Slothrop 05-20-2004 04:23 PM

Good news if you own your housing, or you don't want the nation's economy to tank:

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from Political Animal
HOUSING BUBBLE?....Is there a housing bubble? The latest "State of the Nation's Housing" report from the Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies says no. Nicolas Retsinas writes in the LA Times today that although housing prices have skyrocketed, they aren't likely to go down anytime soon:
  • Three fundamental conditions have undergirded this sector, and they have not changed....First, demand remains high....Second, no-growth and slow-growth restrictions continue to constrain supply....Third, the consolidated financial services industry, with access to global capital markets, is flexible.

He does, however, suggest that higher interest rates will reduce the rate of refinancing, which in turn will result in lower consumer spending.
The link to the LA Times story isn't working for me.

sgtclub 05-20-2004 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Good news if you own your housing, or you don't want the nation's economy to tank:



The link to the LA Times story isn't working for me.
Seems to me that demand may also decrease as interest rates increase, so I'm not sure I entirely agree with this.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-20-2004 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Good news if you own your housing, or you don't want the nation's economy to tank:
I don't really buy either part of the analysis.

First, everyone who can refinance has by now. Or should have. Is there a lot of cash to be squeezed out of refis at this point?

Second, higher rates have to slow price increases. When purchasing power declines as it does with higher rates, people simply can't afford it, even if they take out ARMs. So, what I really mean to say is increasing rates don't matter right now but a lot of buyers are really fucked in a few years when the AR kicks in and their payments go up. I'd like to rent now and cherry pick the foreclosure sales then.

What's Kerry's plan to keep homeownership affordable for the working class? Does it involve $5m mortgages on the half of houses that heiress wives bought?

Tyrone Slothrop 05-20-2004 04:35 PM

A conservative's justification for reading Slate
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Me
Thought this was a good article in Slate:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2100717/
I thought it was incoherent and loopy, for reasons aptly put here and here and here and here.

Not Me 05-20-2004 04:42 PM

A conservative's justification for reading Slate
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I thought it was incoherent and loopy, for reasons aptly put here and here and here and here.
Compare the response of Dems when a liberal breaks ranks to the response of Reps when one of their own breaks ranks. Not exactly a big tent your Dems have, now is it? 'Nuff Said.

Hank Chinaski 05-20-2004 04:50 PM

Ho Ho Ho
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I guess this is all very subjective.

Let's do a test. How would you define, say, Mrs. Claus?
It's all environmentally related. Mrs. Claus lives in the artic tundra- she is fit for her surroundings. Fringe is from Minnesota, right?

Gattigap 05-20-2004 04:51 PM

A conservative's justification for reading Slate
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Me
Compare the response of Dems when a liberal breaks ranks to the response of Reps when one of their own breaks ranks. Not exactly a big tent your Dems have, now is it? 'Nuff Said.
OK. You mean like Dennis Hastert's response to John McCain?

Tyrone Slothrop 05-20-2004 04:55 PM

A conservative's justification for reading Slate
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Me
Compare the response of Dems when a liberal breaks ranks to the response of Reps when one of their own breaks ranks. Not exactly a big tent your Dems have, now is it? 'Nuff Said.
If Christopher Hitchens is a liberal, so is David Horowitz. And Sonia Gandhi is Italian.

Not Me 05-20-2004 04:56 PM

A conservative's justification for reading Slate
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
OK. You mean like Dennis Hastert's response to John McCain?
I have heard many Reps criticize and disavow what Hastert said. Hastert made a stupid comment and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up publicly apologizing to McCain for that comment.

SlaveNoMore 05-20-2004 04:58 PM

Ho Ho Ho
 
Quote:

Hank Chinaski
It's all environmentally related. Mrs. Claus lives in the artic tundra- she is fit for her surroundings. Fringe is from Minnesota, right?
Saskatchewan, I believe.

Not Me 05-20-2004 04:59 PM

Bill Cosby: Blacks can't speak English
 
This is being underreported by the liberal media.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=38565

NAACP leaders stunned by remarks of prominent comedian
  • Cosby said, according to Leiby: "Ladies and gentlemen, the lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids – $500 sneakers for what? And won't spend $200 for 'Hooked on Phonics.'

    He added: "They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk. ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. ... You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth!"

    The Post said Cosby also targeted imprisoned blacks.

    "These are not political criminals," he said. "These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake and then we run out and we are outraged, [saying] 'The cops shouldn't have shot him.' What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?"

Atticus Grinch 05-20-2004 05:00 PM

Ho Ho Ho
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Let's do a test. How would you define, say, Mrs. Claus?
You picked the wrong battleground, son. Did you miss the first half of "Santa Claus Is Coming to Town"? The future Mrs. Claus was fucking hot. Hotter than Heat Miser! Yowsa!

http://www.2dorks.com/gallery/2002/jessica/jessica.jpg

She wound up with her own bad parody song, too.

SlaveNoMore 05-20-2004 05:00 PM

A conservative's justification for reading Slate
 
Quote:

Tyrone Slothrop
And Sonia Gandhi is Italian.
Who is to question the collective opinion of 830 million Hindus?

sgtclub 05-20-2004 05:01 PM

Bill Cosby: Blacks can't speak English
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Me
This is being underreported by the liberal media.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=38565

NAACP leaders stunned by remarks of prominent comedian
  • Cosby said, according to Leiby: "Ladies and gentlemen, the lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids – $500 sneakers for what? And won't spend $200 for 'Hooked on Phonics.'

    He added: "They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk. ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. ... You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth!"

    The Post said Cosby also targeted imprisoned blacks.

    "These are not political criminals," he said. "These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake and then we run out and we are outraged, [saying] 'The cops shouldn't have shot him.' What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?"

Nice plug for Coke. Wonder how much he made off that.

Tyrone Slothrop 05-20-2004 05:02 PM

A conservative's justification for reading Slate
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Who is to question the collective opinion of 830 million Hindus?
Who, bilmore, who?

Not sure what this means, though. She could have been the next PM.

sgtclub 05-20-2004 05:02 PM

A conservative's justification for reading Slate
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If Christopher Hitchens is a liberal, so is David Horowitz. And Sonia Gandhi is Italian.
Hitchens is an independent. Horowitz is a former lib turned conservative.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-20-2004 05:03 PM

Bill Cosby: Blacks can't speak English
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
Nice plug for Coke. Wonder how much he made off that.
Interesting remarks. Imagine how quickly a speaker other than bill cosby would have become a business and social pariah had he made similar comments.


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