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Penske_Account 10-11-2005 05:22 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
Quote:
Originally posted by baltassoc
To be fair, most women who died from illegal and/or self induced abortions didn't actually die in the alleys themselves, but rather usually endured three or four days of excrutiating and building pain before finally dying. So this is a bit of an exageration.
They should have been more responsible in their initial behaviour and then in caring for their health. But of course in a liberal world there is no personal responsibility, everyone is a victim.

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 05:23 PM
Not fair
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
I didn't understand that that was your exact quote. I assumed you were paraphrasing. If those were your exact words, then, no, I'm at a loss.

There is no objective record of the exact words. they got censoured.

Gattigap 10-11-2005 05:24 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
you didn't used to be stupid. What happened? No, the original snark was, isn't it funny/ironic/disgusting that the D's can now have the nerve to complain about low troop levels.
Uh huh. You'll note that I was far from the only one who had a different take on this, and I'll also note that you took several posts down the primrose path defending that take until you decided that it was, as you put it, no longer profitable.

That said, sure, we'll move on.

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 05:25 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
you didn't used to be stupid. What happened?

The long term toxic affects of the kool-aid. Have you ever seen Fahrenheit 911? Imagine what happens to your mind when you run that on an endless internal mental replay loop day in and day out.......

Scary, huh?

Spanky 10-11-2005 05:27 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
No, but personally very satisfying.
I have a friend that makes bumper stickers with that motto. He also makes bumper stickers that say "Socialism Sucks: Vote Republican".

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 05:30 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
"Socialism Sucks: Vote Republican".
New Board Motto!

Spanky 10-11-2005 05:30 PM
Gold Stars? Dancing girls?
 
I would like to point out that almost all the titles used for the last six pages of posts were created by me (Not fiar, inalieable rights.....). Do I get something for that?

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 05:35 PM
Gold Stars? Dancing girls?
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
I would like to point out that almost all the titles used for the last six pages of posts were created by me (Not fiar, inalieable rights.....). Do I get something for that?
You get to make the definitive position statement on any one political topic and all of the other members have to assent to and subordinate their own views on the same said position.

go for it!

bilmore 10-11-2005 05:41 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
That said, sure, we'll move on.
That's it? That's the only way you can fool yourself on a small politics bulletin board? "Now that we've proven that 2+2=5, we'll just move on. Yay, me!"?

taxwonk 10-11-2005 05:42 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
Then you are not going to like this arrogant pontification.

I don't think the relevent question is whether or not they support the occupation.

My guess is almost all the Iraqi's don't like the occupation. Who would? But my guess is that the overwhelming majority prefer the occupation over Saddams Regime.

I also believe the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are glad Saddam was taken out, and want some sort of democracy and at least some civil rights.

I think many of the Iraqis hold the mistkan belief that things would be OK if the occupation forces moved out, but I think most of us know things would get much worse and the Iraqi's that hoped for a quick US exit would have buyers remorse.

I think the US should exit as soon as we get the Iraqis trained and have a government in place with a constitution. As W. says, I think it would be irresponsible for us to leave until that is the situation.

It was the right thing to go in and take out Saddam. The Iraqis are better off because of it. And we are morally obligated to stay in until a constitution is agreed upon, and enough troops are trained to protect that constitution.

Seems pretty simple and straightforward to me. But as people have said, I am a simpleton.
Actually, I agree with almost everything you said in that post. There is one thing I disagree with, but no matter.

bilmore 10-11-2005 05:43 PM
Dubious Honor
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
Do I get something for that?
Yes, but as it involves bending way over, most people let it pass without mention. It's a dubious honor, to be sure.

Gattigap 10-11-2005 05:45 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
That's it? That's the only way you can fool yourself on a small politics bulletin board? "Now that we've proven that 2+2=5, we'll just move on. Yay, me!"?
I'm sorry. I thought you were saying that you were tired of this line of conversation.

If you're not, though, I'm glad to revisit the ways in which you defended, then retreated from the notion that Bush sent 200k fewer troops than his generals told him he needed because of that mean ol' Moore/Soros/Boxer/Kennedy liberal axis.

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 05:47 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
That's it? That's the only way you can fool yourself on a small politics bulletin board? "Now that we've proven that 2+2=5, we'll just move on. Yay, me!"?
Billmoor, Let me digress with an apt anecdote, in my role as an educator of youth I recently had the chance to observe some cutting edge techniques in early elementary education. One of the things that struck me was that no matter how many times some of the slower children of the left wanted to calculate 2 + 2 as equaling 5 (or 1 or 3), the teacher circled them back to the correct summation. He explained to me that sometimes it takes months or years for these basic concepts to take hold, but caring compassionate teachers must maintain the committment, for the future of our country.

Stay the course Billmour, stay the course, there is hope for these fellows, ever feignt that hope may seem.

Sexual Harassment Panda 10-11-2005 05:47 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
That's it? That's the only way you can fool yourself on a small politics bulletin board? "Now that we've proven that 2+2=5, we'll just move on. Yay, me!"?
"Come back - I'll bite yer leg off, I will!"

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictur...lyGrail021.jpg

Spanky 10-11-2005 05:48 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Actually, I agree with almost everything you said in that post. There is one thing I disagree with, but no matter.
So where did the Bush administration screw up?

Was it in going to war?

Going to war was OK, but how the war (or occupation) was executed?

Spanky 10-11-2005 05:51 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
"Come back - I'll bite yer leg off, I will!"

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictur...lyGrail021.jpg
Sidd and I were going to go to NYC to see Spamelot but I haven't gotten us good seats yet (so much for my connections). Anyone seen it?

bilmore 10-11-2005 05:55 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
Sidd and I were going to go to NYC to see Spamelot but I haven't gotten us good seats yet (so much for my connections). Anyone seen it?
Are you a Python fan? Seen the movie? Then don't go.

Spanky 10-11-2005 05:59 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
Are you a Python fan? Seen the movie? Then don't go.
Yes. Yes. Why?

Spanky 10-11-2005 06:01 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Actually, I agree with almost everything you said in that post. There is one thing I disagree with, but no matter.
Btw: Once the battlelines have been drawn there is no agreeing. Ty, can you talk to Wonk, he is not obeying the rules. Just like there is no crying in baseball, this is the politics board, there is no being reasonable here.

bilmore 10-11-2005 06:09 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
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Originally posted by Spanky
Yes. Yes. Why?
You will spend the entire play thinking John Cleese played it better.

But maybe that's just my inner Python fanatic talking.

bilmore 10-11-2005 06:12 PM
My Miers reaction, encapsulated
 
http://www.barking-moonbat.com/image...s/gorrell6.gif

Secret_Agent_Man 10-11-2005 06:26 PM
Mindless slavering support
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
I don't think that one can validly misdefine a central term and then use that misdefinition indefinitely to redefine another's argument.

"Activist" originally meant, one willing to go beyond the words of the Constitution in order to rule on what it "ought to" have said, or what it "meant to" say, or what emotions and feelings were hidden in the penumbras and the byways of the heart of the Constitution or some such idiocy. Ty wants to redefine it as, "willing to ignore some precedent". But, when groups of Constitution-rewriting justices have wrought their harm, it's not "activism" to take it all back to the words. If you think that that argument doesn't work, then it's a simple matter if choosing a new word for it. Let's try "honest reader of the C" v. "lying sack of I-wish-I-had-a-penumbra-of-my-own."
That's a legitimate argument and a good point.

Perhaps through such redefinition, the term has come to take on a broader meaning now (I think) among the general populace to refer to results-oriented judging. BY that definition, putting up folks with the intent to reverse Roe v. Wade (for example) could be seen as "activist".

However, I think that part of the blame for this lies with some conservatives (including GOP politicians) who scream "judicial activism" every time a court overturns a a statute or government action that they like.

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man 10-11-2005 06:31 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
No, no, no. You too? Geez. My point was simply that I luv to see the D's now complaining about too few troops. It's simply one more sign that they consider the average voter to be a dolt with no memory. Do you think these contradictory positions, taken with a view as to "what sounds zippy RIGHT NOW?", actually improve their credibility?
See my later post. I guess I did misunderstand you.

But my post was funny damnit! I thought the brass balled sodomy image particularly effective.

S_A_M

P.S. Nothing wrong with raising the criticism now if they are right. (It not necessarily contradictory to initially say: "Don't do it!" and then to later say: "Since you did it, don't screw it up!")

Secret_Agent_Man 10-11-2005 06:33 PM
DAMN
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
They saw me, and all thought "ooo, low hanging fruit!"
You tied to a tree?

S_A_M

Gattigap 10-11-2005 06:35 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man


But my post was funny damnit! I thought the brass balled sodomy image particularly effective.
And with this, we lose another innocent to the inexorable coarsening of our board culture. I'll pray for you in this weekend's services, SAM.

Secret_Agent_Man 10-11-2005 06:40 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Common knowledge.
Is that most recent edition:

Spanky (ed.), Common Knowledge (RNC Press, 2005);

or your personal copy:

Penske (ed.), Common Knowledge (Regnery Press, 1998)?

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man 10-11-2005 06:47 PM
My Miers reaction, encapsulated
 
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
http://www.barking-moonbat.com/image...s/gorrell6.gif
What happened to the pic?

S_A_M

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 06:49 PM
The are endowed by their creator with certain inalieable rights......
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Is that most recent edition:

Spanky (ed.), Common Knowledge (RNC Press, 2005);

or your personal copy:

Penske (ed.), Common Knowledge (Regnery Press, 1998)?

S_A_M
The universal edition.

Spanky 10-11-2005 06:49 PM
My Miers reaction, encapsulated
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
What happened to the pic?

S_A_M
2. I only see an X. Ty?

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 06:51 PM
My Miers reaction, encapsulated
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
2. I only see an X. Ty?
How about here:

http://www.barking-moonbat.com/image...s/gorrell6.gif

Or cut and paste the following into you browser:

http://www.barking-moonbat.com/image...s/gorrell6.gif

baltassoc 10-11-2005 07:07 PM
My Miers reaction, encapsulated
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
What happened to the pic?

S_A_M
It's a magic picture. Only those pure of heart can see it.

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 07:08 PM
My Miers reaction, encapsulated
 
Quote:
Originally posted by baltassoc
It's a magic picture. Only those pure of heart can see it.
I see it.

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 07:11 PM
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Penske_Account 10-11-2005 07:16 PM
Put Some Ice on It.
 
Anyone else hear Hannity's talkradioshow this afternoon?

The shrill shreiking harpy of ugly demo-doom, Susan Estrich, was his guest.

SEan stepped up the plate and threw a fastball at her ugly mug by straight up asking her, as a rape victim, what she thought about Juanita Brodericke's credible recitation of Clinton's rape of Juanita.

The fowl haggy said she didn't believe it because Clinton himself told her it wasn't true. Retch.

Do any of you demo's realise that he is a lying political opportunist? Maybe Billy boy should give a statement under oath that he didn't rape her. I'd pay two bucks to see that!!!

http://www.cockedandlocked.net/images/Estrich.jpg

SlaveNoMore 10-11-2005 07:28 PM
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Penske_Account
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Deleting your own posts is almost as bad as when you used to have conversations among your socks

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Deleting your own posts is almost as bad as when you used to have conversations among your socks
What does "used to have" mean in that sentence?

Spanky 10-11-2005 09:25 PM
Hello.........
 
Where did everybody go?

Is there a nuclear war on?

Was I the only one not notified?

I guess I am supposed to be reading Collapse anyway.

Spanky 10-11-2005 09:27 PM
QUOTE OF THE WEEK

“A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have.” --- President Gerald Ford

Spanky 10-11-2005 09:32 PM
My Miers reaction, encapsulated
 
Quote:
Originally posted by baltassoc
It's a magic picture. Only those pure of heart can see it.
If you had told me that in the first place I wouldn't have even tried to look at it.

Penske_Account 10-11-2005 11:40 PM
Hello.........
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Spanky
Where did everybody go?

Is there a nuclear war on?

Was I the only one not notified?

I guess I am supposed to be reading Collapse anyway.
I am sincerely hoping that our friends on the left are taking the afternoon and evening off from pontificating and bloviating the same old tired liberal pablum here, in order to epiphanise themselves to a higher, more righteous ideal, i.e. the universal moral code.

I look forward to a more amicable peaceful harmonious union amongst us all.

As Rodney Luther King once said, "why can't we all get along?!?!".

To Wonk and Sidd, I offer the olive branch of partisan unity.

Kumbayah, babyjesus, kumbayah, oh babyjesus, Kumbayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!


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