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Not Me 10-13-2004 06:28 PM
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I'll admit to tearing down an opponent's signs once while placing signs for my candidate.
I key BMWs with Kerry-Edwards stickers. And SUVs, too.

Not Me 10-13-2004 06:33 PM
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Bill O'Reilly hit with sexual harassment suit. Fun stuff!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...3mackris1.html

(spree: a real page turner!)
Can you summarize it, please?

Say_hello_for_me 10-13-2004 06:34 PM
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I key BMWs with Kerry-Edwards stickers. And SUVs, too.
I wish someone would throw mud on mine.

Gattigap 10-13-2004 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Bill O'Reilly hit with sexual harassment suit. Fun stuff!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...3mackris1.html

(spree: a real page turner!)
You mock, but I've been following O'Reilly's litigation strategies for a while now. See that aggressive suit he filed against the girl hours earlier to fight off the "shakedown attempt?" I'm not ready to dismiss his assessment of legal claims just yet.

Shape Shifter 10-13-2004 06:37 PM
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Can you summarize it, please?
Bill O'Reilly is a sexist fuck.

Shape Shifter 10-13-2004 06:37 PM
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I key BMWs with Kerry-Edwards stickers. And SUVs, too.
Wasn't Arnold the first civilian owner of a Humvee?

Not Me 10-13-2004 06:43 PM
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Bill O'Reilly is a sexist fuck.
I mean the juicy parts. I am bored and have carpal tunnel.

taxwonk 10-13-2004 06:44 PM
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In any of these countries, did the US first lead with economic sanctions against the country for 15 years? No. Do you not see how our sanctioning, and encouraging sanctioning of, Iraq has already caused harm to the people there and why we might have a responsibility there that is more direct than that of say, Chad? And why would we attack Indonesia? Their human rights record isn't very good but we have a good working relationship with their newly elected President. A far cry from the hopelessness of dealing with Saddam Hussein.

The only thing you have contributed to this discussion is typing out the names of lots of third world countries in the hopes that this whole "global thing" will seem so "complicated" thereby hiding the fact that you are in fact a pussy.

You mean while the men are off fighting to defend life and liberty? I suppose we'll have whiny little fucks like you there to protect us. Oh the Humanity!!

Hell, you're flummoxed at everything. That old avatar of you as the fat little boy was perfect. Buck up, young man!
I might respond in depth to this post if it had anything to do with the substance of your prior post. You know, the one I was responding to. The one where you said you were sick of us liberal pussies not being willing to tackle all the oppressors and genocidal maniacs all over the globe?

You can't even keep track of your own delusional rambling, so I certainly can't expect you to keep up with me or anyone else on the board. We weren't discussing Iraq and sanctions, you stupid cunt. Bilmore and I were talking about genocide, and its alarming presence in so many parts of the world.

If you can't keep up, the go lie down in the corner and wait until the voices in your head have reduced themselves to one.

Not Me 10-13-2004 06:46 PM
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Wasn't Arnold the first civilian owner of a Humvee?
He smokes Cuban cigars, too, but I am pretty sure he hasn't killed any babies.

Shape Shifter 10-13-2004 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Not Me
I mean the juicy parts. I am bored and have carpal tunnel.
He'd call her up and masturbate with a vibrator while talking about his big cock.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-13-2004 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by mmm3587
While we're at it, how should we determine which preemptive wars to enter into? Which of the following conditions are sufficient? Which are nececssary for one reasoning for preemptive war, but not sufficient for that reasoning?

(a) State A will probably attack us, and has the WMD to do it.

(b) State A would attack us if it had the WMD, but it doesn't have the WMD, but we think they do.

(c) State A attacked us, and State B was friends with them, so we attack State B.

(d) State A commits atrocities.

(d) State A commits more atrocities than anyone.

(e) State A commits religious atrocities.

(f) Our President's father kind of went to war with State A to protect our ally.

Also please comment on how resources weigh in. Should we get into WWIII with 12 countries because of all the atrocity in the world? What about if we have oil interests there?
I love these sort of posts. They get no substantive response. Dead air for about a half an hour, until someone posts somehing about how Hussein threw kittens into ceiling fans for fun.

The chief frustration of the GOP neocons and chickenhawks with the left (and the reason they take to insulting the left as "elites" and changing the subject all the time) is because, as far as I can see, at least on Iraq, they've got no rebuttal. They're throwing haymakers all over the place while the left ducks and weaves and flurries them with body shots.

The GOP should throw its one good punch - "Hey, stupid, the war is over there now, not here!" Sure, that'll anger the Mideast and the French, but fuck it... you can repair those rifts after you get re-elected.

taxwonk 10-13-2004 06:47 PM
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Actually, it reminded that Kerry voted against going to war with this savage back in 1991.

Switching gears, for all of you that were so incensed by those "they'll take your Bibles" flyers, are you equally incensed by this:
  • Democrats in a race for a state House seat in District 82, are circulating a flyer that shows a retarded child with President Bush’s face running in a track race. The headline says: “Voting for Bush Is Like Running In The Special Olympics: Even If You Win, You’re Still Retarded.”... the flyers have been distributed for at least two weeks from Fitzhugh’s campaign office in Ripley, Tennessee. It also serves as the Kerry-Edwards headquarters.

Story and picture of the offensive flyer found here: http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=1951
If it's true, it's reprehensible and I hope the candidate has his head handed to him on election day. But I do note that your source looks about as reliable as Landoverbaptistchurch.org, so I will reserve final judgment.

SlaveNoMore 10-13-2004 06:48 PM
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Gattigap
You mock, but I've been following O'Reilly's litigation strategies for a while now. See that aggressive suit he filed against the girl hours earlier to fight off the "shakedown attempt?" I'm not ready to dismiss his assessment of legal claims just yet.
Perhaps he should hire Kobe's lawyer.

Not Me 10-13-2004 06:48 PM
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He'd call her up and masturbate with a vibrator while talking about his big cock.
Eeew. Did she hang up or did she listen?

dtb 10-13-2004 06:50 PM
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If it's true, it's reprehensible and I hope the candidate has his head handed to him on election day. But I do note that your source looks about as reliable as Landoverbaptistchurch.org, so I will reserve final judgment.
2.

By the way, I didn't realize (until watching a very informative, albeit dull, show about The Kennedy Women on Discovery Channel) that Eunice Shriver was key to the establishment of the Special Olympics. Is that common knowledge?

Not Me 10-13-2004 06:51 PM
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The GOP should throw its one good punch - "Hey, stupid, the war is over there now, not here!" Sure, that'll anger the Mideast and the French, but fuck it... you can repair those rifts after you get re-elected.
Iraq=flypaper now and eventually a beacon of democracy at some point.

mmm3587 10-13-2004 06:51 PM
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2.

By the way, I didn't realize (until watching a very informative, albeit dull, show about The Kennedy Women on Discovery Channel) that Eunice Shriver was key to the establishment of the Special Olympics. Is that common knowledge?
Maybe not common, but it was because of the retarded Kennedy*, right?

*This is a deliberate softball for the rightwingers.

Not Me 10-13-2004 06:54 PM
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By the way, I didn't realize (until watching a very informative, albeit dull, show about The Kennedy Women on Discovery Channel) that Eunice Shriver was key to the establishment of the Special Olympics. Is that common knowledge?
Yes it is common knowledge. The kennedy's (Rose and whatever his name was, the one who made the money by being a bootlegger) had a retarded daughter. They had her lobotomized (not a joke). It was done in the 50's or 40's.

dtb 10-13-2004 06:55 PM
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Maybe not common, but it was because of the retarded Kennedy*, right?

*This is a deliberate softball for the rightwingers.
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You mean Rosemary? Rosemary is of Eunice's generation and was MILDLY retarded, and Joe Sr. heard of this fabulous new operation -- called a lobotomy? -- that he thought might do her some good. Apparently, he was mistaken and she never had an intelligence level above that of a 4- or 5-year-old again.

(Another factoid learned from the Discovery Channel show.)

So, I understand Rose and Joe Kennedy had 9 kids, but I could only figure out 8 of them from the tv program. Did one die in childhood or something (I missed the beginning of the show)?

SlaveNoMore 10-13-2004 06:57 PM
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dtb
By the way, I didn't realize (until watching a very informative, albeit dull, show about The Kennedy Women on Discovery Channel) that Eunice Shriver was key to the establishment of the Special Olympics. Is that common knowledge?
Yes.

mmm3587 10-13-2004 06:57 PM
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You mean Rosemary? Rosemary is of Eunice's generation and was MILDLY retarded, and Joe Sr. heard of this fabulous new operation -- called a lobotomy? -- that he thought might do her some good. Apparently, he was mistaken and she never had an intelligence level above that of a 4- or 5-year-old again.
Well, you can be in the Special Olympics even if the retardation is caused by accident or surgery and not genetics, right?

Shape Shifter 10-13-2004 06:58 PM
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Eeew. Did she hang up or did she listen?
At $4.95/minute, I'll bet that she listened.

Not Me 10-13-2004 07:01 PM
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At $4.95/minute, I'll bet that she listened.
Where do I get that job?

Shape Shifter 10-13-2004 07:03 PM
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Where do I get that job?
Hmph. Your billing rate is lower than I thought.

Not Me 10-13-2004 07:07 PM
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Hmph. Your billing rate is lower than I thought.
My billing rate is not what I take home.

Those of you who PM me wanting to know all about my breast implants, no more freebies, got it? It is now $4.95 a word. I take paypal.

dtb 10-13-2004 07:07 PM
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Well, you can be in the Special Olympics even if the retardation is caused by accident or surgery and not genetics, right?
I don't know, but probably so. And your point is...?

mmm3587 10-13-2004 07:26 PM
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I don't know, but probably so. And your point is...?
That the reason she started the Special Olympics is that she cared for her sister and wanted to develop a program to help people with similar conditions.

dtb 10-13-2004 07:28 PM
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That the reason she started the Special Olympics is that she cared for her sister and wanted to develop a program to help people with similar conditions.
OK.


(Sorry, I thought you were disagreeing with me about something -- and I couldn't figure out what.)

mmm3587 10-13-2004 07:33 PM
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OK.


(Sorry, I thought you were disagreeing with me about something -- and I couldn't figure out what.)
Darling, I could never disagree with you, unless you said that you looked fat in that dress.

Sidd Finch 10-13-2004 07:50 PM
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I take paypal.
Slave -- she found out what paypal is. Jump on it.

Sidd Finch 10-13-2004 07:54 PM
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I might respond in depth to this post if it had anything to do with the substance of your prior post. You know, the one I was responding to. The one where you said you were sick of us liberal pussies not being willing to tackle all the oppressors and genocidal maniacs all over the globe?

You can't even keep track of your own delusional rambling, so I certainly can't expect you to keep up with me or anyone else on the board. We weren't discussing Iraq and sanctions, you stupid cunt. Bilmore and I were talking about genocide, and its alarming presence in so many parts of the world.

If you can't keep up, the go lie down in the corner and wait until the voices in your head have reduced themselves to one.
Not quite the caliber of your "voices in your head" post on FB. I give it 3.5 stars.

SlaveNoMore 10-13-2004 08:02 PM
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Sidd Finch
Slave -- she found out what paypal is. Jump on it.
she ????

Tyrone Slothrop 10-13-2004 08:08 PM
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Your forgot to add this, Ty:

"In a letter sent to City Elections chief Lisa Artison, Walker said that he had "serious questions" about the need for that many ballots [938,000] when the city reported having 382,000 registered voters in September."

The total population in Milwaukee: 596,974 in 2000 and 593,920 in 2004

The total number of people who are of legal voting age in Milwaukee in 2004: 423,811

Total votes cast in 2000 fall election: 245,670

Total votes cast in 2002 fall election: 141,351 (pre-registration of 335,889)

So tell me - with a straight face if you can - why the city would need 514,189 more ballots than there are voting-age citizens?
I do know that you can register on voting day in Wisconsin, and it also seems reasonably obvious that since you're sending the ballots out to many different precincts, you're going to need to make sure that each has more than enough -- so some overage is surely necessary. It would seem prudent to me to plan for greater, not lesser, turnout this time than in the last two elections.

Sidd Finch 10-13-2004 08:08 PM
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she ????
Personally, I've decided yes. For two reasons:

1. No man could possibly be that interested in pregnancy and childbirth.

2. I decided that trying to prove that someone I regard as a complete asshole shares my gender, or any characteristic with me at all, is counterproductive to my general sanity. I might as well try to prove that she shares my political persuasion (on that point, you, my friend, are fucked.)

Tyrone Slothrop 10-13-2004 08:10 PM
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I think you whiffed. Ty can be hard to read, but I think what he was referring to is the effort by the Kerry campaign to thwart the inalienable rights of Nader supporters to vote for their guy. I mean if you are talking about screwing with the public's right to vote, the Nader crap dwarfs everything you're talking about.
Good point, Hank. The problem of getting to the polls and finding out you can't vote at all is dwarfed -- dwarfed, I say -- by the prospect of getting to the poll and finding that while you can vote, you must write in Ralph Nader (or Lyndon LaRouche, or Charles Bukowski) to vote for them. Oh the humanity!

Tyrone Slothrop 10-13-2004 08:13 PM
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I love these sort of posts. They get no substantive response. Dead air for about a half an hour, until someone posts somehing about how Hussein threw kittens into ceiling fans for fun.

The chief frustration of the GOP neocons and chickenhawks with the left (and the reason they take to insulting the left as "elites" and changing the subject all the time) is because, as far as I can see, at least on Iraq, they've got no rebuttal. They're throwing haymakers all over the place while the left ducks and weaves and flurries them with body shots.

The GOP should throw its one good punch - "Hey, stupid, the war is over there now, not here!" Sure, that'll anger the Mideast and the French, but fuck it... you can repair those rifts after you get re-elected.
I love these sort of posts. They get no substantive response. Dead air until someone posts something about retarded Kennedys.

Say_hello_for_me 10-13-2004 08:21 PM
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I love these sort of posts. They get no substantive response. Dead air until someone posts something about retarded Kennedys.
What's the point? You complaining that things got quiet around here? It's like watching a squad of drunk high school football players dare each other to run into a wall. One at a time. Ka-plunk (ouch, you suck), Ka-plunk (ouch, you suck), Ka-plunk (ouch, you totally fucking suck).

I'm sober now.

SlaveNoMore 10-13-2004 08:29 PM
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Tyrone Slothrop
I do know that you can register on voting day in Wisconsin, and it also seems reasonably obvious that since you're sending the ballots out to many different precincts, you're going to need to make sure that each has more than enough -- so some overage is surely necessary. It would seem prudent to me to plan for greater, not lesser, turnout this time than in the last two elections.
No doubt you need some overage.

But really? 2.21 ballots per every non-felon over 18?

Tyrone Slothrop 10-13-2004 08:30 PM
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What's the point?
An excuse to say "retarded Kennedys." What's your excuse?

"I don't have a joke here. I'd just like to say 'Guam.'" -- David Letterman

Say_hello_for_me 10-13-2004 08:34 PM
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An excuse to say "retarded Kennedys." What's your excuse?

"I don't have a joke here. I'd just like to say 'Guam.'" -- David Letterman
An excuse to use "What's the point?"


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