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Secret_Agent_Man 10-12-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Sounds like you would like to be the board's conscience. Before we can submit the application to our liberal friends, we need some info. What is the highest rank you've held in the KKK?

I'm willing to bet that you've never been to aklan meeting. How do you expect the Dems to be comfortable with you?
My Hank --

Between this post and your bukkake post about Penske's mother (posted on the LWK Board!), you are indeed in rare form.

In answer to your question, Democrats are the original party of the Big Tent, and have accepted a number of non-KKK members in recent years. His antitrust posts would cause him more trouble, but Burger would be fine with us.

S_A_M

Spanky 10-12-2005 02:47 PM

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There was some lawyer on Charlie Rose last night whose sole job is cases before the Supreme Court. He also teaches at Harvard and Stanford. Anyone see this? He said he did not think Roberts was as conservative as Rehnquist. He also did not think he would overturn Roe v. Wade.

I don't think Miers is going to vote to overturn it either. That is still just two votes to overturn it.

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The fact that others occasionally have low-value jokey posts doesn't give value to page after page of pics cross-posted from anti-Hilary websites.

Hank has been scolded for his unfunny fringe picture. At least he's limited it.

A parable. Not infrequenly, Lyndon LaRouche drives around the streets of downtown DC in a parade of cars. They have old-fashioned megaphones on top. They have people to distribute flyers to pedestrians. They are loud. Their rhetoric is filled with invective. I've long since learned to turn up the volume on my iPod.
Why, those anti-Hillary pics have a message, they are warning. Amongst other reasons, one reason not to forget the holocaust is to help us be vigilant against genocide again. Graphically reminding people of Hillary's evil is useful for similar reasons. This country doesn't need to have another day when 3000 people die because a President has neglected national security in the interests of his/her Id satisfaction over those of the national interest.

Why is Hank's fringe pic unfunny? Looks like a relevant representation to me.

Larouche? No shit, he was doing that back when you were in diapers. While he's nuts, how do know you aren't missing anything? Or this that chance outweighed by insight you gain from listening to some GreenDay tune for the 2700th time? I respect the spectrum of ideas in the market place. Why the bias?

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I can't figure out what is going on in Jeb's camp. They are putting out a lot of signals that he ain't going to run. I just can't figure out why. Maybe they think Hillary is unbeatable.

btw. The only issue is whether the Republicans can beat Hillary. I don't think there is any question she is going to be the nominee. I have seen focus groups. She is similar to W (or at least W. before Miers) in that the base loves her, the opposition loathes her and the middle does not mind her. The fact the far right hates her is a problem because it will motivate the base. However, the Dem base loves her which will motivate them and the middle America is willing to vote for her. In addition, she can move to the center without angering the base too much because their loyalty is not based on her position on the issue. A very strong asset. That is a winning combination.

I think McCain, Giuliani and Condi are the only ones that can give her a run for her money.
McCain/Jeb wins it in a walk. Spanky, thoughts?

Hank Chinaski 10-12-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
My Hank --

Between this post and your bukkake post about Penske's mother (posted on the LWK Board!), you are indeed in rare form.

In answer to your question, Democrats are the original party of the Big Tent, and have accepted a number of non-KKK members in recent years. His antitrust posts would cause him more trouble, but Burger would be fine with us.

S_A_M
If you did/could read my post, I said I doubt he is in the Klan. The point was that for a conscience you would want Klan background. Get it? Ha ha!

sgtclub 10-12-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by soup sandwich
I think I am finally starting to see what all the anger is about. It's not just that the right wants a conservative, rather, the right wants a conservative and a fight. The right wants to not just get their person on the SCOTUS, they want to nominate a person the left can't stand and shove it down the left's throat. Is this accurate?
It's not that they want a fight, it's that they want a proclamation their beliefs are now in the mainstream. Pissing off the left is just a collateral benefit.

Replaced_Texan 10-12-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Um, no.

We want an intelligent conservative that is actually qualified for the job.

Why are all the people that harped on endlessly about Brown being unqualified to head up FEMA all of a sudden seem to support Bush's decision to tap an unqualified crony for SCOTUS?

Riddle me this - if Clinton had tapped Bernie Nussbaum instead of Ruth Bader Ginsberg, would the Left have been happy? Hell, he was a good friend of Bill and a White House counsel, roughly the same qualifications as Miers.
Were I to still read and participate in this forum, I'd say that I object to her too on the same basic princple.

And that I thought that Roberts was very well qualified. But I don't post (and more importantly read) here anymore, so you'll have to imagine me posting a big two.

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
For some, yeah. For most, it's like, we've been waiting for this chance for eons, it's THE most important change Bush can make, and the idea that we should take a chance that Bush (and Bush alone) "knows her heart" - that fries us. There's too much at stake to just trust him on this. This is The Big Chance, and the people who we thought of as being the best nominees would have, by definition, provoked a fight, but the fight ain't the thing - it's just a symptom.
I think some want a fight just for a fight, but there is a greater value. In the post-Bork era, the right needs to establish that a highly qualified, thoughtful, accomplished jurist with some anti-Roe history can be affirmed. If Ginsburg can get 90 plus votes, then a her ideological counterpoint should be able to get affirmed, if as qualified. And certainly Luttig, McConnel or Jones are as qualified.

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Sounds like you would like to be the board's conscience. Before we can submit the application to our liberal friends, we need some info. What is the highest rank you've held in the KKK?

I'm willing to bet that you've never been to aklan meeting. How do you expect the Dems to be comfortable with you?
I have been to more Moveon.org rallies than all of the libs here combined. They are the Howard Dean base of the left, and while I don't agree or like much of what they say, I am willing to open my mind to it. Too bad there is little reciprocity to the ideas of the majoritarian right from those on the left. Lots of bias though.

soup sandwich 10-12-2005 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Riddle me this - if Clinton had tapped Bernie Nussbaum instead of Ruth Bader Ginsberg, would the Left have been happy? Hell, he was a good friend of Bill and a White House counsel, roughly the same qualifications as Miers.
Personally, I would have trusted that Bill knew what he was doing and been fine with it. I also tend to think that the left would not be screeching this loud.

Spanky 10-12-2005 02:58 PM

Roe v. Wade - Locked in.
 
There was some lawyer on Charlie Rose last night whose sole job is cases before the Supreme Court. He also teaches at Harvard and Stanford. Anyone see this? He said he did not think Roberts was as conservative as Rehnquist. He also did not think he would overturn Roe v. Wade.

I don't think Miers is going to vote to overturn it either. That is still just two votes to overturn it.

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
Fine as far as it goes, Penske, but that's several steps removed from what we were talking about. Don't let me stop you, though.
Nicely condenscending and dismissive. It's tough being in the party of the hopelessly out of touch, no?


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Originally posted by Gattigap

Oh, and if you have that poll handy for the Iraqis, that'd be great.
There is no poll for common knowledge. Once it rises to that status you don't need a poll, anymore than you need a weatherman to see which way the wind is blowing.

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
My Hank --

Between this post and your bukkake post about Penske's mother (posted on the LWK Board!), you are indeed in rare form.

In answer to your question, Democrats are the original party of the Big Tent, and have accepted a number of non-KKK members in recent years. His antitrust posts would cause him more trouble, but Burger would be fine with us.

S_A_M
Original party of Big tent? Hmm,. my recollection is that teh demos are the original party of slavery and the Reps are the original party of emancipation. How are you defining big tent?

Replaced_Texan 10-12-2005 03:03 PM

And while I'm not here anyways...
 
While I have no objection to the destruction of Smurfs and the depiction of same in general, I think this is sick.

http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/BELG...1011102903.jpg

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
If you did/could read my post, I said I doubt he is in the Klan. The point was that for a conscience you would want Klan background. Get it? Ha ha!
G.O. LOL!

bilmore 10-12-2005 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
But I don't post (and more importantly read) here anymore, so you'll have to imagine me posting a big two.
I've been gone, and, as you might imagine, you're baffling me here.

Gattigap 10-12-2005 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore


Why are all the people that harped on endlessly about Brown being unqualified to head up FEMA all of a sudden seem to support Bush's decision to tap an unqualified crony for SCOTUS?

I dunno if it's "support" so much as exude astonishment and amusement at the fratricide it's caused.

For me, I was working from an assumption that we were getting a firebrand conservative. As I've said before, having someone unqualified worries me too.

The overall effect is to be prepared for the Grim Reaper and suddenly be presented with a Court Jester. The Jester will eventually trouble me too, but for the moment let me just feel some relief and enjoy the show.

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 03:29 PM

Kerry who?
 
The former presidential candidate who, during his election campaign, proudly contrasted his military service during the Vietnam War with that of President Bush's National Guard service - and who once led an organization of Vietnam veterans protesting the war in Vietnam - is being sued by some Vietnam veterans.

The Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation is a plaintiff along with Red, White, and Blue Productions, and Vietnam veteran turned journalist Carlton Sherwood, in a defamation action against current Massachusetts Senator John Kerry and Tony Podesta, who was Kerry's Pennsylvania campaign manager.

The lawsuit, filed in Philadelphia, claims that Kerry and Podesta libeled, slandered, and caused financial harm to the plaintiffs as they sought to prevent the presentation of Sherwood's documentary movie Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal before the 2004 presidential election.


I support these Patriotic Vets. It's a damn shame the way feckless cowardly haters treated (and still treat) our honourable soldiers from that era. I hope these heroes get their pound of flesh, and then some.


http://tonkin.spymac.net/graphics/warhero.jpg

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
I dunno if it's "support" so much as exude astonishment and amusement at the fratricide it's caused.

What's amusing about a nomination that is potentially catastrophically damaging to our Republic? You lefties have a strange sense of humour.

SlaveNoMore 10-12-2005 03:45 PM

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Gattigap
I dunno if it's "support" so much as exude astonishment and amusement at the fratricide it's caused.
Given how the Dems can always be counted to tow the party line, I guess it would be astonishing that some of us would openly criticize our party leaders when they make wrongful decisions.

A nickel to anyone who recognizes the Re line.

taxwonk 10-12-2005 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
C'mon, I was waiting for someone else to make some snarky comment on this. You're blowing my setup lines.
I assumed you were talking about Jeb and I agreed with you, but Spanky said yesterday that Ds can't agree with Rs. Kind of a star-bellied Sneetches thing, I think.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-12-2005 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Why, those anti-Hillary pics have a message, they are warning.
The only warning I get from them is:
1) Don't eat too much
2) Make sure your clothes are tailored so that if you did eat too much, it isn't obvious
3) Don't get caught by a photographer while making a face
4) Photoshop is a dangerous tool in the hands of someone other than Hank's "wife".

bilmore 10-12-2005 04:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
A nickel to anyone who recognizes the Re line.
Mmmmm, british dentistry . . .

Gattigap 10-12-2005 04:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Given how the Dems can always be counted to tow the party line, I guess it would be astonishing that some of us would openly criticize our party leaders when they make wrongful decisions.

Not you in particular, but GOP elected officials? From the record from 2000-2005? Keeping the Medicare vote open for 420 hours? Only "majority of the majority" measures reach the floor? Etc., etc.?

Well, yeah.

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The only warning I get from them is:
1) Don't eat too much
2) Make sure your clothes are tailored so that if you did eat too much, it isn't obvious
3) Don't get caught by a photographer while making a face
4) Photoshop is a dangerous tool in the hands of someone other than Hank's "wife".
Exactly, and for some or all of those things you should thank me.

taxwonk 10-12-2005 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Sounds like you would like to be the board's conscience. Before we can submit the application to our liberal friends, we need some info. What is the highest rank you've held in the KKK?

I'm willing to bet that you've never been to aklan meeting. How do you expect the Dems to be comfortable with you?
We can get comfortable with him. After all, it's not like he's Italian or something.

Secret_Agent_Man 10-12-2005 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
If you did/could read my post, I said I doubt he is in the Klan. The point was that for a conscience you would want Klan background. Get it? Ha ha!
I did read your post, Hank, and -- as I said -- he should be fine despite his status as a non-Klan member.

S_A_M

Replaced_Texan 10-12-2005 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
I've been gone, and, as you might imagine, you're baffling me here.
I had two choices: put a shitload of people on ignore or stop posting / reading politics. My ignore list hasn't changed.

Secret_Agent_Man 10-12-2005 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Original party of Big tent? Hmm,. my recollection is that teh demos are the original party of slavery and the Reps are the original party of emancipation. How are you defining big tent?
BIG.

You know, like Hank's momma.

S_A_M

taxwonk 10-12-2005 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Given how the Dems can always be counted to tow the party line, I guess it would be astonishing that some of us would openly criticize our party leaders when they make wrongful decisions.

A nickel to anyone who recognizes the Re line.
Monty Python you Gob.

Secret_Agent_Man 10-12-2005 04:25 PM

And while I'm not here anyways...
 
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
While I have no objection to the destruction of Smurfs and the depiction of same in general, I think this is sick.

http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/BELG...1011102903.jpg
I hope Brainy buys it too.

S_A_M

Hank Chinaski 10-12-2005 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I had two choices: put a shitload of people on ignore
2. I was going to put:
  • Ironhead, Penske, SAM, balt, Sidd, bilmore, Gattigap and Wonk

on ignore. Then I realized that I would miss all of them on FB if I did, so I followed your lead.

I especially like seeing how Taxwonk restates peoples jokes when he post his responses two days later. I just didn't want to give that up.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-12-2005 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Exactly, and for some or all of those things you should thank me.
Unlike the masses, I thank NFH regularly for bringing me similar information.

Penske_Account 10-12-2005 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Unlike the masses, I thank NFH regularly for bringing me similar information.
did you know I met her? She's hot.

futbol fan 10-12-2005 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I hope Brainy buys it too.

S_A_M
The fact that those vapid little turds are still on TV at all is the moral equivalent of war against our children. I will not sit idly by while they rot more brains. A Classic Warner Bros. (not that new shit) coalition of the willing has struck the first blow for freedom.

futbol fan 10-12-2005 04:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
2. I was going to put:
  • Ironhead, Penske, SAM, balt, Sidd, bilmore, Gattigap and Wonk

on ignore. Then I realized that I would miss all of them on FB if I did, so I followed your lead.

I especially like seeing how Taxwonk restates peoples jokes when he post his responses two days later. I just didn't want to give that up.
Penske lied and told me that you had me on ignore. Now that I know you don't I'll start posting here again.

Hank Chinaski 10-12-2005 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by ironweed
Penske lied and told me that you had me on ignore. Now that I know you don't I'll start posting here again.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/12102005/80...en-soccer.html


More proof soccer is a girly game.
  • Women know more than men about soccer

    - If you don't understand soccer's offside rule, don't ask a man -- find a woman.

    Women are top of the table when it comes to knowledge about the beautiful game, relegating their menfolk to second spot, according to a survey released on Wednesday.

    Research found that 59 percent of women could correctly identify the offside law -- one of the game's hardest to comprehend -- as opposed to just 55 percent of men.

    Also 65 percent of women correctly used the title assistant referee, while 40 percent of men wrongly referred to the official as a "linesman".

bilmore 10-12-2005 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Women know more than men about soccer
More moms end up sitting at kidlet's soccer practices/games than dads.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-12-2005 05:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
There was some lawyer on Charlie Rose last night whose sole job is cases before the Supreme Court. He also teaches at Harvard and Stanford. Anyone see this? He said he did not think Roberts was as conservative as Rehnquist. He also did not think he would overturn Roe v. Wade.

I don't think Miers is going to vote to overturn it either. That is still just two votes to overturn it.
Well, Roe is poorly written, and could be overturned, but the Right has stupidly made Roe a referendum on whether there's a right to privacy in the Constitution. They should stress the States Rights side of the anti-Roe argument, and argue that there is a right to privacy, but that abortion is not a privacy issue - that it is a public policy issue which states should have the right to regulate. By arguing against a right to privacy, the Right has made overturning Roe harder. NOBODY wants to be seen as the judge or party which hastened a decision taking away our right to privacy.

BTW, I was at a dinner a few days back where a constitutional scholar stated matter-of-factly "There is a right to privacy in the Constitution." He said it as though it wasn't even up for debate.

bilmore 10-12-2005 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Well, Roe is poorly written, and could be overturned . . .
We don't really want that. We'd lose all of those incredibly-motivated prolifers who make it possible for us to get Republicans into office so that we can pursue our dream of smaller and cheaper government.

Yeah, THAT'S working out well . . .


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