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And I'm not defending him or his behavior (although, it's starting to feel like I am). Even if it were Kevin Spacey, I wouldn't think it was assault. TM |
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But I'm going to go ahead and admit that I won't be able to let the Obama thing go since I never heard that particular criticism from anyone (and there were many besides you) until after he started cashing in. |
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Sorry, meant to say that I wouldn't think he should do the first two but not the third. In other words, can certainly imagine him giving Wall St speeches I would have no problem with. I thought HRC was a dope for doing those speeches to Wall Street. It really hurt her. She was widely criticized for that before Obama did his speeches. I thought the people criticizing Obama picked up on it precisely because it seemed to hurt her so much. |
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Bill Clinton was pilloried for it. Why no one criticized HW for joining Carlyle and cashing out I never understood. Probably because that involved an industry the average voter didn't understand. |
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Right now, dozens of famous men have been accused of various levels of lecherous to criminal behavior. I'd need an Excel spreadsheet to straighten out who engaged in illegal behavior from who engaged in mere odious behavior. And that distinction is vital. Al Franken and Roy Moore do not belong in the same sentence. Probably not the same paragraph, or on the same page. |
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So, within minutes of seeing Orrin Hatch's explosion of righteous indignation about being from modest roots and how he's just try to help the poor with his tax plan, I see that the GOP quietly snuck in a tax break for private jet owners into the plan. Dear Orrin Hatch, please take your hypocritical phony indignation, douse it in Macallan 25, ignite it, and shove it back up your withered asshole where it came from. Love, Flower. |
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And I don't know what you mean by "my" party. You have a bunch of redneck Federalist Party members in MN? I briefly attended college in your part of the country and had a total skank of a roommate from Lake City. I would deduce based on my interactions with her that she's from the redneck part of the state. |
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So here's my favorite political story of the day. It is going to be super hard for anyone to out-douche Jared Kushner:
http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...ee-says-695795 ETA: He cold also end up with dementia or a shorter life span!! http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...is-life-714840 |
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Also, that's map is a badge of pride. |
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The trouble is finding a worthwhile destination at the end. I guess one could go inland to Rochester or something. Maybe next time you need a tune up at Mayo. |
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He's the Chauncey Gardiner of the administration. At least know we know what he and his FIL bond over: Abject ignorance. |
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This seems mostly right, but ignores the outsize influence of rich donors on GOP legislators. They may not be going to shift their spend to Democrats, but they can fund a primary challenger to unseat an incumbent, so the incumbents are obliged to do what they want.
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This is a fucking lawyer board. Almost everybody here has taken money from people they don't agree with, sleeps well despite it, and doesn't think those people somehow control them. Kind of amazing that anyone feels like they're in a position to throw stones. Fuckin' hypocrites. |
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It is astonishing how easily people are swayed by a bunch of people who repeat often nonsensical inanities over and over again. |
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I have my own standards, they're different from other peoples, and I'm not going to impose my screen. Hilary gave a fantastic speech as part of the 10,000 women program at Goldman, she's looking to encourage financial institutions elevating women so they play a role in capital allocation in our society. That is fucking important, and I'm sorry if someone's general hatred of big banks gets in the way. With a foundation that has raised several shit-tons for aids vaccines, for example, I'm not exactly ready to play holier than thou with her. I do a ton of work in the drug sector. There are people who hate drug companies. But I think that is some of the most important work I do, supporting clients who are having big impacts in diseases as diverse as diarrhea and AIDs associated cancers. Some Berner want to object - fuck him (it's always a him). What's your foundation done? |
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Re Obama, I think a lot of his followers expected a vow of poverty from the guy. They're a bit unrealistic, not unlike Bernie Bros, in their expectations. It was a much gentler time when an Ex-Pres could just slide over to Carlyle and cash out in deep secrecy, alongside ex-prime ministers, secretaries of defense and state, and generals. |
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My point is, simply, that applying our own litmus tests to other people is a really bad way to work. Everyone has their own, and the diversity of interests is part of what gets shit done. I think this debate is about a bunch of self-righteous purists criticizing people like Hillary and Obama who frankly get a ton more good stuff done by engaging with whom they choose to engage. Whatever Obama chooses to do, he's just gotten more done than any of his purist critics. Who, once again, can go fuck themselves, since they're not really accomplishing very much in the real world anyways. |
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But I could see Sebby gaining traction as a Fox "commentator" |
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