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bilmore 03-13-2005 03:13 AM
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Originally posted by Spanky
. . . so lighten up francis.
We're not supposed to use people's real names here. You're new, so I'm just sayin' . . .

Adder 03-13-2005 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Spanky
As far as Unions are concerned, if they are in support of a bill then I know the consumers are taking it in the derrier. The worst is the public service unions. Particularly the California Teachers Association. Anytime anyone has proposed legislation that would allow incompetant teachers to be dismissed they freak out like you are asking them to take a seventy five percent pay cut. It seems so ubsurd to me that you can't get rid of incompetance but they think job secuirty is some sort of divine right. In LA they have what is called the "dance of the lemons". At a high school, when enough parents complain about a principle, they just move him or her to another high school. They just keep moving them around. They do the same thing with teachers. If you question this policy you are accused of attacking eduction. The prisons union in California is also completely out of hand. Prisoners are getting killed and beat up all the time by correctional officers, but if any legislator even hints at having an investigation why so many prisoners in california end up in hospitals (or why so many female inmate end up pregnant or with veneral disease) the prison unions claim they are soft on law enforcement and siding with the criminals. In San Franicsco the transit union has insured that the average transit worker earns six figures and they get four months off a year.

There are always people on every side of an issue, but there are people that have a vested financial interest and that is all they care about.
You could have saved a lot of breath if you just said, "Special interests are people I don't like."

Sidd Finch 03-13-2005 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
He claimed to have met Sidd- how is that name dropping? All you have to do is show up w/o counsel for arraignment in SF municipal court on a misdemenor charge and there is a 20% chance a judge will introduce you to Sidd-

Ooooh, good one. After all, I certainly can't compete with an Nth-year Detroit associate on the quality of my practice.

ltl/fb 03-13-2005 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by bilmore
I made this point earlier, when I was speaking about the impact of this bill - how primarily it is aimed at the lower-income debtors, and has big, sweeping, explicitly-aimed exceptions carved out that benefit only the high-net-worth bankrupts. The point is, this bill is bad because it makes BK harder for those that truly need it (and who can BK with the least impact on society) and it makes it easier (or at least, not harder at all - I still need to read the trust provisions) for the true abusers. It's a purchased favor for the credit industry, but with the caveat that "our friends" will be protected.
I don't think he's listening.

Adder 03-13-2005 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Ooooh, good one. After all, I certainly can't compete with an Nth-year Detroit associate on the quality of my practice.
Personally, I wasn't sure whether Hank's description was an insult or not. Haning out at the court house waiting for misdeamers sounds potentially more interesting than hanging out at the copy vendor waiting for more boxes of documents...

Ad(yes, I would love to help on your priv log)der

Hank Chinaski 03-13-2005 10:49 PM
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Ooooh, good one. After all, I certainly can't compete with an Nth-year Detroit associate on the quality of my practice.
I notice you don't use parentheticals anymore.

You do realize, I hope, that I take credit and pride in your having taken this step forward.

Spanky 03-13-2005 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by bilmore
I made this point earlier, when I was speaking about the impact of this bill - how primarily it is aimed at the lower-income debtors, and has big, sweeping, explicitly-aimed exceptions carved out that benefit only the high-net-worth bankrupts. The point is, this bill is bad because it makes BK harder for those that truly need it (and who can BK with the least impact on society) and it makes it easier (or at least, not harder at all - I still need to read the trust provisions) for the true abusers. It's a purchased favor for the credit industry, but with the caveat that "our friends" will be protected.
Exactly - well said

Spanky 03-13-2005 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by bilmore
We're not supposed to use people's real names here. You're new, so I'm just sayin' . . .
I am new and I assumed you are joking. But just to be clear, that was a line from the Bill Murray film stripes. I have idea what Friney's real name is.

Spanky 03-13-2005 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by Adder
You could have saved a lot of breath if you just said, "Special interests are people I don't like."
I can live with that.

SlaveNoMore 03-13-2005 11:41 PM
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Spanky
I am new and I assumed you are joking. But just to be clear, that was a line from the Bill Murray film stripes. I have idea what Friney's real name is.
Roseanne, I believe.

Hank Chinaski 03-13-2005 11:58 PM
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Roseanne, I believe.
Rosanne is monogamous. Anna Nicole?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-14-2005 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Adder
The urge to blame "special interests," from both sides of the aisle, is a pet peeve for me. There are people and groups on both sides of most issues. Whichever side wins, we denegrate as a "special interest."
Your dismissal of special interests appears to ignore the well-established concept that interests that are discrete, focused, and held by a few larger entities are far more likely to win out over interests that are diffuse and of minimal benefit to each entity. It's not like there's a big, strong anti-pork-barrel lobby.

bilmore 03-14-2005 10:43 AM
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It's a war based entirely on competing demonstrations. Here's this morning's report:

"Lebanon's opposition staged the biggest show of force in the nation's modern history from slain ex-Premier Rafik Hariri's graveside Monday, taking a thunderous oath to break Syria's ruthless stranglehold and tear apart President Lahoud's police state of "secret service phantoms."

Between 1.5 and 2 million opposition activists converged on Beirut's downtown Martyrs Square and surrounding neighborhoods to mark the lapse of one month on Hariri's assassination. They shouted slogans demanding the resignation of all security commanders in Lebanon because of dereliction of duty in stopping the assassination.

The demonstration was so huge that Syria's loyalists led by
Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah's Hizbullah and Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri's Amal movement, who pose as standard-bearers of the Shiite community were dwarfed into an overwhelmed minority."

http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/Ne...D?OpenDocument

Assad is toast.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-14-2005 10:49 AM
End of Soc. Sec. reform
 
So, with the popularity of this plan dropping further every day, when do we predict the President finally drops it?

My guess is June 28, which is the day after the last session of the Supreme Court, when Rehnquist will announce his retirement.

sgtclub 03-14-2005 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by bilmore
It's a war based entirely on competing demonstrations. Here's this morning's report:

"Lebanon's opposition staged the biggest show of force in the nation's modern history from slain ex-Premier Rafik Hariri's graveside Monday, taking a thunderous oath to break Syria's ruthless stranglehold and tear apart President Lahoud's police state of "secret service phantoms."

Between 1.5 and 2 million opposition activists converged on Beirut's downtown Martyrs Square and surrounding neighborhoods to mark the lapse of one month on Hariri's assassination. They shouted slogans demanding the resignation of all security commanders in Lebanon because of dereliction of duty in stopping the assassination.

The demonstration was so huge that Syria's loyalists led by
Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah's Hizbullah and Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri's Amal movement, who pose as standard-bearers of the Shiite community were dwarfed into an overwhelmed minority."

http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/Ne...D?OpenDocument

Assad is toast.
Come on Bilmore, the vote in Iraq had nothing to do with it.


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