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They are a big portion of the public, but on the issues I was addressing, they are a minority and the smarter of them (including most politicians, who are likelier to be astute about what voters want) know it. As you say, they win elections, for a variety of reasons, but nonetheless the conservative policy agenda is not what the public wants.

If neither you nor I are wading into cultural resentments, it's a mystery that evolution showed up in this conversation.

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On this point, I'd note the most recent GOP nominee for president. It's not even what the largest segment of GOP primary voters want.

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I was strictly using the high # of dipshits who doubt Evolution to demonstrate there must be a lot of conservatives. I could've used "tough on crime" voters, or climate change deniers. Just a stat datapoint to prove an argument.

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I'm fairly sure the Dems get equal votes from the "we didn't come from monkeys" crowd. The idea that all Dem voters are well-educated is the silliest.

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I'm not sure we're quite equal among this group of voters, but we do have our following.

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The Dems probably have more dumb voters than the GOP. But the GOP has 90% of the doubting science crowd.

That's the fun of picking a party here. You get to pick which flavor of stupid suits you best!

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And let's not forget the dumb independents. Likely the stupidest of them all.

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Since we're not talking about it, I'm not even sure why we're talking about.

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The true believers in anti-evolution (and maybe climate change) are by definition uneducated, and mostly poor. That rich Rs say they also don't believe to get votes, or that rich Ds say they do believe, doesn't change how the uneducated poor believe. Trump did not get all the uneducated poor votes.

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to quote, well you, it's what i wanted to talk about.

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Fair enough!

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Anti-evolution and anti-climate change thinkers are generally rural and Bible Belt folks. Trump got most of them.

Oh, and Ty -- we're only talking about evolution in substance because of you.

But I'm happy to talk about it. Why not, eh? But what's there to say? "Hey, some whacked fucks don't believe in it"? It's kind of a limited conversation when you're talking about irrefutable facts and people who reject them.

I guess it is kind of cathartic if you dislike people as much as I do. Still, I'm kind of bored.

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I'm a registered SteamWhig.

Fuck, this beard is itchy.

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You are illustrating my point, which is that most people want the modern welfare state, and that cultural issues like evolution are used to divert attention from the fact that what conservatives want to do is quite unpopular.

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Let's you and me talk a walk around Detroit or Philly and ask about evolution. Detroit (read black) votes 90% for dems. When we banned gay marriage by a 60% to 40% vote detroit voted to ban it 60%. The dems got their bible thumbing poor too. Evolution is not consistent with Genesis.